Polymath wrote:
If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost
certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits
whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that
I warn against.

It is fictional as is your charge



Perhaps the horse has already bolted?

Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign?

an_old_friend wrote:
Polymath wrote:
If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost
certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits
whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that
I warn against.

It is fictional as is your charge



Perhaps the horse has already bolted?

Polymath wrote:
Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign?

nope no call signs in CB, at least not in the US

you are just writing bafflegab to use an expression of one of MY fav
Birtish chacters, the Doctor, of course



an_old_friend wrote:
Polymath wrote:
If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost
certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits
whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that
I warn against.

It is fictional as is your charge



Perhaps the horse has already bolted?

AOF:

Who? Doctor Who? :|

John

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:36:54 -0700, an_old_friend wrote:


Polymath wrote:
Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign?

nope no call signs in CB, at least not in the US

you are just writing bafflegab to use an expression of one of MY fav
Birtish chacters, the Doctor, of course



an_old_friend wrote:
Polymath wrote:
If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost
certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits
whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that
I warn against.

It is fictional as is your charge



Perhaps the horse has already bolted?

PM:

Let me give a summary of the "real world."

If you were a child today, you would grow up with the computer.

In elementary school your first "pen pal" would be in a foreign country
and you would communicate with them via the internet. You would learn to
IM, IRC, EMAIL, MSN CHAT, YAHOO, WEB CAM, etc....

By high school you would be picking up a computer script and/or language
and at least have a basic knowledge of programming. Your first hardware
project would most likely be computer related.

Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at them
using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior. They lack
the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos, documents, etc. by
transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then, they show you a CW key and
you are dumb struck, and leave. You return to the internet and current
technology, never to stray again... you begin a web site and consider
what position you would like in the computer field, when you grow up...

John

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:27:42 -0700, Polymath wrote:

Perhaps even "KB9RQZ" is a CB call sign?

an_old_friend wrote:
Polymath wrote:
If you feel that it is fictional, then it is almost
certain that you are one of the latter-day recruits
whose style is that of CB Radio, the very type that
I warn against.

It is fictional as is your charge



Perhaps the horse has already bolted?

John Smith wrote:

Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at
them using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior.
They lack the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos,
documents, etc. by transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then,
they show you a CW key and you are dumb struck, and leave. You
return to the internet and current technology, never to stray
again... you begin a web site and consider what position you would
like in the computer field, when you grow up...


Fabulously put.
--
huLLy
Mobile phone 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925

"John Smith" wrote in message
news
PM:

Let me give a summary of the "real world."

If you were a child today, you would grow up with the computer.

In elementary school your first "pen pal" would be in a foreign country
and you would communicate with them via the internet. You would learn to
IM, IRC, EMAIL, MSN CHAT, YAHOO, WEB CAM, etc....

By high school you would be picking up a computer script and/or language
and at least have a basic knowledge of programming. Your first hardware
project would most likely be computer related.

Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at them
using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior. They lack
the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos, documents, etc. by
transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then, they show you a CW key and
you are dumb struck, and leave. You return to the internet and current
technology, never to stray again... you begin a web site and consider
what position you would like in the computer field, when you grow up...

John


The days of kids being computer gurus have already come and gone. Now they
just play video games and chat. Very few get interested in programming.
Very few do a hardware project. They take their computers to the shop for
upgrades. They only people that I have observed doing their own hardware
upgrades, rebuilding computers, etc are the middle aged and the "old farts"
that you seem to despise so.

I spend countless hours teaching our interns how to use email, spreadsheets,
etc.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee:

You know you have won a soft-spot in my heart now, and I always wanna
"take-the-gloves-off" when replying to your posts, and I would, except you
would take it as an insult and never forgive me...

Yes, there are people like that in the world. Indeed, the top of the
bell-curve are those with an IQ of 100-110 (barely intelligent enough not
to drool on their work.) If your company/corp is interning them, you
really should look for a position elsewhere, but you knew that...

John

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:04:16 -0400, Dee Flint wrote:


"John Smith" wrote in message
news
PM:

Let me give a summary of the "real world."

If you were a child today, you would grow up with the computer.

In elementary school your first "pen pal" would be in a foreign country
and you would communicate with them via the internet. You would learn to
IM, IRC, EMAIL, MSN CHAT, YAHOO, WEB CAM, etc....

By high school you would be picking up a computer script and/or language
and at least have a basic knowledge of programming. Your first hardware
project would most likely be computer related.

Somewhere along this line, you bump into a ham or a few. You look at them
using their equipment, it is apparent the internet is superior. They lack
the ability to exchange pics, apps, music, videos, documents, etc. by
transmissions taking seconds or minutes. Then, they show you a CW key and
you are dumb struck, and leave. You return to the internet and current
technology, never to stray again... you begin a web site and consider
what position you would like in the computer field, when you grow up...

John


The days of kids being computer gurus have already come and gone. Now they
just play video games and chat. Very few get interested in programming.
Very few do a hardware project. They take their computers to the shop for
upgrades. They only people that I have observed doing their own hardware
upgrades, rebuilding computers, etc are the middle aged and the "old farts"
that you seem to despise so.

I spend countless hours teaching our interns how to use email, spreadsheets,
etc.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:04:16 -0400, Dee Flint wrote:


The days of kids being computer gurus have already come and gone. Now
they
just play video games and chat. Very few get interested in programming.
Very few do a hardware project. They take their computers to the shop
for
upgrades. They only people that I have observed doing their own
hardware
upgrades, rebuilding computers, etc are the middle aged and the "old
farts"
that you seem to despise so.

I spend countless hours teaching our interns how to use email,
spreadsheets,
etc.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


BINGO! As Jim would say. With just a rough guess, I am surrounded by
approx. 70 or so people that would know me well enough to be inclined to
call for computer help. Of those, probably 50 percent are less than 35. Of
those, none are really what I would call "intermediate" users of the
computer. Some are above average (average being relative to the overall
community of people I am exposed to concerning computer users), but
certainly not self-sufficient on computer-ese.

I consider myself a very average computer user. I used to be right there
with technology, keeping up, etc. But, it's been about 30 years and I am
just wanting to get through each day on mine at work now...LOL At any rate,
as you mention above, Dee, I am still their immediate computer consultant
for my workgroup on spreadsheets, all the MS Office stuff, email, attaching
documents, finding things on their machines, cruising our network, etc. I
am happy to do it for them and I don't think of them with the disdain that
some seem to. I don't measure one's value by their efficacy on a computer.

I got my husband started in the computer world about 10 years ago. He's way
surpassed me now and I just ask him...LOL

Kim W5TIT

Kim:

I am inclined to agree with you, and yes, it is a shame companies are
sometimes forced to take inferior employees because they fail to meet the
pay scale the most capable demand. There have been moves to go that way
in my area of employment--however, this seems to becoming a moot point
as design and production slips off shore. With less and less people
paying into SSI, or paying less into SSI because of slipping salaries,
jobs disappearing--wonder if the oldsters ever sweat losing their
benefits? There may not be any by the time we get there or our children,
a crime really.

However, we should be careful, or we will look like this self-serving
bunch here who thinks themselves very special just because they possess a
hobby license and have their picture taken in front of a radio. I shudder
to think of how I would look walking around draped in the clothing of
false vanity...

Other skills besides computers are very valuable...

John

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:41:28 +0000, Kim wrote:

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:04:16 -0400, Dee Flint wrote:


The days of kids being computer gurus have already come and gone. Now
they
just play video games and chat. Very few get interested in programming.
Very few do a hardware project. They take their computers to the shop
for
upgrades. They only people that I have observed doing their own
hardware
upgrades, rebuilding computers, etc are the middle aged and the "old
farts"
that you seem to despise so.

I spend countless hours teaching our interns how to use email,
spreadsheets,
etc.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


BINGO! As Jim would say. With just a rough guess, I am surrounded by
approx. 70 or so people that would know me well enough to be inclined to
call for computer help. Of those, probably 50 percent are less than 35. Of
those, none are really what I would call "intermediate" users of the
computer. Some are above average (average being relative to the overall
community of people I am exposed to concerning computer users), but
certainly not self-sufficient on computer-ese.

I consider myself a very average computer user. I used to be right there
with technology, keeping up, etc. But, it's been about 30 years and I am
just wanting to get through each day on mine at work now...LOL At any rate,
as you mention above, Dee, I am still their immediate computer consultant
for my workgroup on spreadsheets, all the MS Office stuff, email, attaching
documents, finding things on their machines, cruising our network, etc. I
am happy to do it for them and I don't think of them with the disdain that
some seem to. I don't measure one's value by their efficacy on a computer.

I got my husband started in the computer world about 10 years ago. He's way
surpassed me now and I just ask him...LOL

Kim W5TIT