Dan:

The only difference between cb and amateur is megacycles and "church
doctrines." Of course, if you can BS those without a ticket and who do
not "CB", then anything you are capable of convincing them of will most
likely float--but don't BS a BS'er, it don't work...

John


On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:02:17 +0000, Dan/W4NTI wrote:

To help you out 'old friend'....."attitude adjustment" = Leaving all the CB
bullcrap where it belongs and pay attention to what is going on with HAM
RADIO. They are NOT THE SAME.

And instead of trying to change the world of Ham Radio, learn something
from those that have been there and done it.

SEE?

Dan/W4NTI

"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

John Smith wrote:
AOF:

I most strongly suspect:

newcomer = "doesn't agree with dan." And, dan munches down a couple of
lotus blossoms and has visions of performing "attitude adjustments" on
the
newbies! grin

... what say you?

In honesty I don't think Dan knows what dan means on that one

John

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:38:59 -0700, an_old_friend wrote:


Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message
...

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
k.net...
There it is. Proof that "Incentive licensing" has caused hate and
discontent in Ham Radio. I've said it for years. And here it is.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan ... at last we agree!!!!!!

We *MUST* eliminate this "I'm better than you because (pick one of
the
following, or any other reason ... "I have a higher class license."
or "I
passed an xx wpm Morse test.") - class warfare.

We are ALL hams ... period. Some are more experienced. They SHOULD
be
Elmering (and Elmering doesn't mean "browbeating them into your
personal
preferences") the newbies and HELPING them to learn (whatever they
want
to) about ham radio, rather than "dising" them and treating them
like
dirt.

This stuff has GOT to stop!

73,
Carl - wk3c
http://home.ptd.net/~wk3c


Sure does......most of the newcomers are into learning. Most of the
newcomers do want to be Elmered. However......some of the newcomers
need an
attitude adjustment. Most of them are here it seems.

Bull**** Dan there are almost no newcommers here

Dan/W4NTI

From: John Smith on Aug 23, 8:06 pm

Dan:

The only difference between cb and amateur is megacycles and "church
doctrines." Of course, if you can BS those without a ticket and who do
not "CB", then anything you are capable of convincing them of will most
likely float--but don't BS a BS'er, it don't work...

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:02:17 +0000, Dan/W4NTI wrote:
To help you out 'old friend'....."attitude adjustment" = Leaving all the CB
bullcrap where it belongs and pay attention to what is going on with HAM
RADIO. They are NOT THE SAME.

And instead of trying to change the world of Ham Radio, learn something
from those that have been there and done it.

SEE?

Dan/W4NTI

John, Dere you have it. Dan Jeswald IS amateur radio! He
RULEZ!

"If the dit don't fit, Dan will convict!"
- paraphrasing Brian Burke

Dannie he say NO ONE CAN CHANGE HAM RADIO!!! He won't allow it!

[ farf...snort... ]

dan say

wrote in message
oups.com...


plonk

Len:

If this were the 1930's, dan would be a dangerous man. Besides serving
hitler in the search for evil jews, he would also be pursuing cb'ers who
want an amateur license...

John

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:44:01 -0700, wrote:

From: John Smith on Aug 23, 8:06 pm

Dan:

The only difference between cb and amateur is megacycles and "church
doctrines." Of course, if you can BS those without a ticket and who do
not "CB", then anything you are capable of convincing them of will most
likely float--but don't BS a BS'er, it don't work...

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:02:17 +0000, Dan/W4NTI wrote:
To help you out 'old friend'....."attitude adjustment" = Leaving all the CB
bullcrap where it belongs and pay attention to what is going on with HAM
RADIO. They are NOT THE SAME.

And instead of trying to change the world of Ham Radio, learn something
from those that have been there and done it.

SEE?

Dan/W4NTI

John, Dere you have it. Dan Jeswald IS amateur radio! He
RULEZ!

"If the dit don't fit, Dan will convict!"
- paraphrasing Brian Burke

Dannie he say NO ONE CAN CHANGE HAM RADIO!!! He won't allow it!

[ farf...snort... ]

dan say

John Smith wrote:
Len:

If this were the 1930's, dan would be a dangerous man. Besides serving
hitler in the search for evil jews, he would also be pursuing cb'ers who
want an amateur license...

There weren't any cb'ers in the 1930's.

Well John Smith, you just blew it. So now you are calling me a Nazi. Or
at least a wanabee Nazi. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I honestly thought you were made of better stuff. I was wrong.

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
news
Len:

If this were the 1930's, dan would be a dangerous man. Besides serving
hitler in the search for evil jews, he would also be pursuing cb'ers who
want an amateur license...

John

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:44:01 -0700, wrote:

From: John Smith on Aug 23, 8:06 pm

Dan:

The only difference between cb and amateur is megacycles and "church
doctrines." Of course, if you can BS those without a ticket and who do
not "CB", then anything you are capable of convincing them of will most
likely float--but don't BS a BS'er, it don't work...

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:02:17 +0000, Dan/W4NTI wrote:
To help you out 'old friend'....."attitude adjustment" = Leaving all
the CB
bullcrap where it belongs and pay attention to what is going on with
HAM
RADIO. They are NOT THE SAME.

And instead of trying to change the world of Ham Radio, learn
something
from those that have been there and done it.

SEE?

Dan/W4NTI

John, Dere you have it. Dan Jeswald IS amateur radio! He
RULEZ!

"If the dit don't fit, Dan will convict!"
- paraphrasing Brian Burke

Dannie he say NO ONE CAN CHANGE HAM RADIO!!! He won't allow it!

[ farf...snort... ]

dan say

Dan:

When your "take" on anything deserves any consideration, I'll get let you
know... the nazi was an attempt of mine in just trying to be nice,
frankly all your text is just simply an attack on CB, CB'ers and anyone
not agreeing with you--it is my opinion that only an idiot could consider
it anything else...

John

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:28:21 +0000, Dan/W4NTI wrote:

Well John Smith, you just blew it. So now you are calling me a Nazi. Or
at least a wanabee Nazi. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I honestly thought you were made of better stuff. I was wrong.

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
news
Len:

If this were the 1930's, dan would be a dangerous man. Besides serving
hitler in the search for evil jews, he would also be pursuing cb'ers who
want an amateur license...

John

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:44:01 -0700, wrote:

From: John Smith on Aug 23, 8:06 pm

Dan:

The only difference between cb and amateur is megacycles and "church
doctrines." Of course, if you can BS those without a ticket and who do
not "CB", then anything you are capable of convincing them of will most
likely float--but don't BS a BS'er, it don't work...

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:02:17 +0000, Dan/W4NTI wrote:
To help you out 'old friend'....."attitude adjustment" = Leaving all
the CB
bullcrap where it belongs and pay attention to what is going on with
HAM
RADIO. They are NOT THE SAME.

And instead of trying to change the world of Ham Radio, learn
something
from those that have been there and done it.

SEE?

Dan/W4NTI

John, Dere you have it. Dan Jeswald IS amateur radio! He
RULEZ!

"If the dit don't fit, Dan will convict!"
- paraphrasing Brian Burke

Dannie he say NO ONE CAN CHANGE HAM RADIO!!! He won't allow it!

[ farf...snort... ]

dan say

There you go again "John Smith" calling names again, but this time to
yourself.

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
news
Dan:

When your "take" on anything deserves any consideration, I'll get let you
know... the nazi was an attempt of mine in just trying to be nice,
frankly all your text is just simply an attack on CB, CB'ers and anyone
not agreeing with you--it is my opinion that only an idiot could consider
it anything else...

John

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:28:21 +0000, Dan/W4NTI wrote:

Well John Smith, you just blew it. So now you are calling me a Nazi.
Or
at least a wanabee Nazi. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I honestly thought you were made of better stuff. I was wrong.

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
news
Len:

If this were the 1930's, dan would be a dangerous man. Besides serving
hitler in the search for evil jews, he would also be pursuing cb'ers who
want an amateur license...

John

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:44:01 -0700, wrote:

From: John Smith on Aug 23, 8:06 pm

Dan:

The only difference between cb and amateur is megacycles and "church
doctrines." Of course, if you can BS those without a ticket and who do
not "CB", then anything you are capable of convincing them of will most
likely float--but don't BS a BS'er, it don't work...

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:02:17 +0000, Dan/W4NTI wrote:
To help you out 'old friend'....."attitude adjustment" = Leaving all
the CB
bullcrap where it belongs and pay attention to what is going on with
HAM
RADIO. They are NOT THE SAME.

And instead of trying to change the world of Ham Radio, learn
something
from those that have been there and done it.

SEE?

Dan/W4NTI

John, Dere you have it. Dan Jeswald IS amateur radio! He
RULEZ!

"If the dit don't fit, Dan will convict!"
- paraphrasing Brian Burke

Dannie he say NO ONE CAN CHANGE HAM RADIO!!! He won't allow it!

[ farf...snort... ]

dan say

From: John Smith on Wed 24 Aug 2005 19:04

Len:

If this were the 1930's, dan would be a dangerous man. Besides serving
hitler in the search for evil jews, he would also be pursuing cb'ers who
want an amateur license...

Cartoon character hero Buzz Corey remarked that there were no CB-ers
in the 1930s. Neither was there any "Commander Buzz Corey." :-)
Only Buck Rogers and the beginnings of science-fiction writing.

Buzzy baby just can't understand any allegories or analogies.

The 1930s didn't have a heckuva lot of radio of any kind except
broadcast receivers. The number of radio amateurs was small and
they made little impact on the radio world then. The "wireless
broadcasters," largely wireless coupling of phonographs to AM
radios, hadn't even started to pick up yet. Communications radio
was largely confined to the maritime world, the (many) radio
communications providers and carriers, and governments. SSB was
there on HF but nearly all of those SSB were of the 4-voice-
channel kind carrying both voice and TTY. A few police
departments were experimenting with two-way voice radios for
vehicle communications and finding it worthwhile. Aviation
radio was almost non-existant (compared to today) and the
"radionavigation aids" consisted of the LF two-antenna-lobe
"A-N" beacon. In smaller radio stations code was king. The
EM spectrum was far from being allocated beyond 30 MHz and
there would come many many changes in the near future. Morse
code skill was then a necessity in amateur radio since so few
radio amateurs had any other mode capability. The Titanic
sinking was only 18 to 28 years past the 1930s and the morse
myths of "saving lives" (via the new international 500 KHz
maritime distress-safety frequency) were in full flower.

With the beginning of the Great Depression in 1929, consumer
radio was having a tough time in the market, not much left to
play around with "technical hobbies" by many. By 1930 over a
quarter of the American work force was out of a regular job and
had to fend for themselves at whatever they could. The thought
of ANY kind of "personal communications radio" was a rare pipe-
dream...NOT possible for most of the denizens of this din of
inequity.

Buzzy-baby was born on the black and white TV tube and never
really left that fantasyland. Even today he is only two-
dimensional. :-)

dim two

You know better than that John Smith. Quit trying to blow smoke up
someone's posterior.

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
news
Dan:

The only difference between cb and amateur is megacycles and "church
doctrines." Of course, if you can BS those without a ticket and who do
not "CB", then anything you are capable of convincing them of will most
likely float--but don't BS a BS'er, it don't work...

John


On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:02:17 +0000, Dan/W4NTI wrote:

To help you out 'old friend'....."attitude adjustment" = Leaving all the
CB
bullcrap where it belongs and pay attention to what is going on with HAM
RADIO. They are NOT THE SAME.

And instead of trying to change the world of Ham Radio, learn something
from those that have been there and done it.

SEE?

Dan/W4NTI

"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

John Smith wrote:
AOF:

I most strongly suspect:

newcomer = "doesn't agree with dan." And, dan munches down a couple of
lotus blossoms and has visions of performing "attitude adjustments" on
the
newbies! grin

... what say you?

In honesty I don't think Dan knows what dan means on that one

John

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:38:59 -0700, an_old_friend wrote:


Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message
...

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
k.net...
There it is. Proof that "Incentive licensing" has caused hate
and
discontent in Ham Radio. I've said it for years. And here it
is.

Dan/W4NTI

Dan ... at last we agree!!!!!!

We *MUST* eliminate this "I'm better than you because (pick one of
the
following, or any other reason ... "I have a higher class
license."
or "I
passed an xx wpm Morse test.") - class warfare.

We are ALL hams ... period. Some are more experienced. They
SHOULD
be
Elmering (and Elmering doesn't mean "browbeating them into your
personal
preferences") the newbies and HELPING them to learn (whatever they
want
to) about ham radio, rather than "dising" them and treating them
like
dirt.

This stuff has GOT to stop!

73,
Carl - wk3c
http://home.ptd.net/~wk3c


Sure does......most of the newcomers are into learning. Most of the
newcomers do want to be Elmered. However......some of the newcomers
need an
attitude adjustment. Most of them are here it seems.

Bull**** Dan there are almost no newcommers here

Dan/W4NTI