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How long are you going to contiue with your bullshit about Michigan
how long are you going to carry on with you BS about michigan taking
your claims seriously? |
an old friend wrote: how long are you going to carry on with you BS about michigan taking your claims seriously? What BS? "Michigan" is a proper name and should be capitalized. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an old friend wrote: how long are you going to carry on with you BS about michigan taking your claims seriously? What BS? you bs cuting the spelling cop when you going to admit you are full of **** in claiming Michigan is going to do something on your say so Steve, K4YZ |
nobodys old friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: nobodys old friend wrote: how long are you going to carry on with you BS about michigan taking your claims seriously? What BS? you bs What BS? (And that should have been "Your BS.", Markie) cuting the spelling cop "cutting". And Michigan should STILL be capitalized as a "proper" name. when you going to admit you are full of #### in claiming Michigan is going to do something on your say so Well...IF I were full of ####, I would let my doctor know...However I'd prefer to get some OTC Colace or Milk-of-Mag first. And I never said anyone was going to "do something" on my "say so". You're welcome to recover and re-post the item wherein you believe I did.... Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: nobodys old friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: nobodys old friend wrote: how long are you going to carry on with you BS about michigan taking your claims seriously? What BS? you bs What BS? (And that should have been "Your BS.", Markie) It is your BS? you claim Michigan would do something. It will not so you are lying and bsing when you claim it will so how long you going to keep it up cuting the spelling cop when you going to admit you are full of #### in claiming Michigan is going to do something on your say so more bs you have leid and said they are investagting a letter form out of state they laughed and threw it away Steve, K4YZ |
the question still stands
when you are you going to confess to your lies?\ an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: nobodys old friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: nobodys old friend wrote: how long are you going to carry on with you BS about michigan taking your claims seriously? What BS? you bs What BS? (And that should have been "Your BS.", Markie) It is your BS? you claim Michigan would do something. It will not so you are lying and bsing when you claim it will so how long you going to keep it up cuting the spelling cop when you going to admit you are full of #### in claiming Michigan is going to do something on your say so more bs you have leid and said they are investagting a letter form out of state they laughed and threw it away Steve, K4YZ |
On 23 Aug 2005 12:41:50 -0700, "an_old_friend"
wrote in .com: the question still stands when you are you going to confess to your lies?\ Probably never. After so many years of rationalizing his lies I'm sure he actually believes that they are justified. I effectively nuked him with the facts and his response was avoidance. It's been a few years, but if I remember my Psych 101 correctly he has what you would call "Narcissistic Personality Disorder"; his false sense of superiority will never let him fess up, and his need for attention will never let him shut up. Too bad cause he's obviously a smart guy -- just really screwed up. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Frank Gilliland wrote: On 23 Aug 2005 12:41:50 -0700, "an_old_friend" wrote in .com: the question still stands when you are you going to confess to your lies?\ Probably never. After so many years of rationalizing his lies I'm sure he actually believes that they are justified. I effectively nuked him with the facts and his response was avoidance. It's been a few years, but if I remember my Psych 101 correctly he has what you would call "Narcissistic Personality Disorder"; his false sense of superiority will never let him fess up, and his need for attention will never let him shut up. Too bad cause he's obviously a smart guy -- just really screwed up. You are more than likely right OTOH I have found over the years if you keep pressing him on his faults he tends to be quieter and better behaved |
Frank Gilliland wrote: On 23 Aug 2005 12:41:50 -0700, "an_old_friend" wrote in .com: the question still stands when you are you going to confess to your lies?\ Probably never. After so many years of rationalizing his lies I'm sure he actually believes that they are justified. I effectively nuked him with the facts and his response was avoidance. It's been a few years, but if I remember my Psych 101 correctly he has what you would call "Narcissistic Personality Disorder"; his false sense of superiority will never let him fess up, and his need for attention will never let him shut up. Too bad cause he's obviously a smart guy -- just really screwed up. You are more than likely right OTOH I have found over the years if you keep pressing him on his faults he tends to be quieter and better behaved there is also the factor of his crediblity |
From: Frank Gilliland on Tues 23 Aug 2005 13:27
On 23 Aug 2005 12:41:50 -0700, "an_old_friend" wrote in .com: the question still stands when you are you going to confess to your lies?\ Probably never. After so many years of rationalizing his lies I'm sure he actually believes that they are justified. I effectively nuked him with the facts and his response was avoidance. Your diagnosis is on-the-money with what we've seen for years in here. He is 99 44/100 percent BLUFF. It's been a few years, but if I remember my Psych 101 correctly he has what you would call "Narcissistic Personality Disorder"; his false sense of superiority will never let him fess up, and his need for attention will never let him shut up. Proper psych name or not, that's IT. [my formal psych two semesters were in 1959...all the rest of the time in the Great School of Life with PLENTY of examples to study...:-)] Author and screenwriter Ernest K. Gann's semi-autobiography "Fate Is The Hunter" described how a guy faked his way into being #3 (seniority) pilot on a new airline starting up between San Francisco and Hawaii around the 1950s (Gann was #2 and an airline pilot since before WW2).* This fake had "self-taught" himself how to fly while in the State Department during WW2 going to and from South America. He's faked his way into this new airline but had NO time on four-motor aircraft nor could he fly well with the autopilot off. After an FAA check-ride resulted in such a poor demo, the FAA found out he had NEVER gotten an Air Transport rating! Fake went bye- bye but later got onto another beginning airline doing the same thing...but killing himself and passengers. * In the book, not in the shortened black-and-white movie of the same title name. It's in Chapter 16 (or "XVI" as typeset), character name given as "Dudley." Too bad cause he's obviously a smart guy -- just really screwed up. Stebie has an Extra. He's also said his nine-year-old can pass it. Doesn't say much about the mentality or maturity required to pass an amateur test. Amateur radio is NOT on par with aircraft flying, not in any respect. The "Dudley" of Gann's book was real and, as aircraft can be deadly when mishandled by fakers, resulted in the ultimate penalty. The penalty is less severe in this radio hobby but the fakery there is more widespread...by example. not FAQ |
an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: nobodys old friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: nobodys old friend wrote: how long are you going to carry on with you BS about michigan taking your claims seriously? What BS? you bs What BS? (And that should have been "Your BS.", Markie) It is your BS? The proper grammatical structure was, Markie...Not that being "proper" is important to you. you claim Michigan would do something. According to them, they are. It will not Ooops. Wrong again. so you are lying and bsing when you claim it will Nope. so how long you going to keep it up It's not "mine" to "keep up", Markie. cuting the spelling cop "cutting" when you going to admit you are full of #### in claiming Michigan is going to do something on your say so more bs You censor out what I said but "respond" to it... Coward. you have leid and said they are investagting "lied" "investigating" a letter form out of state they laughed and threw it away "from" Nope. Steve, K4YZ |
Frank Gilliland wrote: Stebie has an Extra. He's also said his nine-year-old can pass it. Doesn't say much about the mentality or maturity required to pass an amateur test. What makes you think he's even a ham? It's clear that the person claiming to be K4YZ in this newsgroup isn't Gunny Robeson. If the -real- Gunny Robeson is K4YZ then this imposter is stealing both his military history -and- his amateur status. From now on I'm going to call him "Dudly" just to make the distinction between the real K4YZ and the newsgroup imposter. (The NIS should have fun with this guy!) Be my guest, Liar Frank. Call NIS. Give them my QRZ address and allow them to knock on my front door. What's a "Frank Gilliland"...?!?! He not an Amateur, and other than seeminly being able to cite the unit histories of some USMC units, is unlikely a fellow Marine. He appears from nowhere, enters an Amateur Radio newsgroup for no other purpose than trying to antagonize one person on behalf of persons who are themselves documented liars and deceivers. The company he keeps should be enough. Steve, K4YZ |
From: Frank Gilliland on Wed 24 Aug 2005 00:18
On 23 Aug 2005 18:27:27 -0700, wrote in snip Author and screenwriter Ernest K. Gann's semi-autobiography "Fate Is The Hunter" described how a guy faked his way into being #3 (seniority) pilot on a new airline starting up between San Francisco and Hawaii around the 1950s (Gann was #2 and an airline pilot since before WW2).* This fake had "self-taught" himself how to fly while in the State Department during WW2 going to and from South America. He's faked his way into this new airline but had NO time on four-motor aircraft nor could he fly well with the autopilot off. After an FAA check-ride resulted in such a poor demo, the FAA found out he had NEVER gotten an Air Transport rating! Fake went bye- bye but later got onto another beginning airline doing the same thing...but killing himself and passengers. How does that saying go..... "fake it till you make it". Apparently he didn't make it. Sometimes an imposter can hang around a long time if he's got a knack of diverting attention from himself to others. That is what Dudly does in here. For a while, Dudly was "communications officer" of a Tennessee State Guard unit with a "title" of "1st Lieutenant." [TN State Guard is NOT affiliated with federal National Guard] Had his picture in the State Guard web pages. For a while. Then it wasn't there anymore. Stebie claimed he "had to move" and other things. But he quit mentioning his "commission" soon afterwards. Sound suspicious? :-) There's Dudly's famous foray into civilian electronics "engineering" for a few months...as a Purchasing Agent. A Purchasing Agent just doesn't DO a single bit of engineering yet Dudly could "tell us all about it from his 'experience.'" Didn't last a half year. Even then he would get confused on which "division" he was in. Why so SHORT an employment? Perhaps Dudly really has a private pilot's license. But, having once been keen on private flying as a fun thing to do, and then being around aviation while engaged in designing civilian and military avionics, I've NEVER heard a private pilot refer to themselves as "pilot in command!" That's a USAF thing for high-rankers entitled to wear wings with the laurel wreath around the star above the shield on their wings. He is in a TN CAP unit "flying missions" involving search-and- rescue. Ahem. Like there's a LOT of flying around TN? :-) Dudly LOVES uniforms. On himself. Scrubs, cammies, or a one-piece "flight suit." Doesn't matter...as long as it makes him look IMPORTANT. He be a "somebody." That "somebody-ness" is not unusual in the hobby of amateur radio. Licensees are "federally-authorized" and they have to pass a TEST! Some consider themselves VITAL to the nation in emergencies when "all else fails" and they can save the day by heroic morsemanship...the only mode that gets through! [geez] * In the book, not in the shortened black-and-white movie of the same title name. It's in Chapter 16 (or "XVI" as typeset), character name given as "Dudley." That might be a good nickname for Steve -- "Dudly the Dud", or maybe "Dudly Didn't-Do-Right"..... You've got it. I opt for just "Dudly." Too bad cause he's obviously a smart guy -- just really screwed up. Stebie has an Extra. He's also said his nine-year-old can pass it. Doesn't say much about the mentality or maturity required to pass an amateur test. What makes you think he's even a ham? It's clear that the person claiming to be K4YZ in this newsgroup isn't Gunny Robeson. Well, there IS a Steven James Robeson in the FCC database for amateur radio licensees under granted callsign of K4YZ. From there on we have NO evidence to support Dudly's claims of USMC service other than his "word." There IS a registry with the state of Tennessee for a Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) with the name Steven James Robeson. Not for an RN (Registered Nurse) as would be common in California for ER (Emergency Room) work. Agreed that there are differences between states on medical organization/procedure but it is UNLIKELY that "lower-ranking" nurses would be directly involved with ER work. [I know some medical people in California, including two MDs, who say that is unlikely] We don't know if Dudly is employed right now or even where he is employed as an LPN...not unusual since our "renowned historian of amateur lore" in here refuses to give the name of his engineering employer. If the -real- Gunny Robeson is K4YZ then this imposter is stealing both his military history -and- his amateur status. Not an idle matter for military. They DO have rather complete information on military personnel and agencies who can investigate fully. For amateur radio it can be an idle matter since amateur radio is essentially a hobby, a personal radio activity done for recreation. Amateur radio is NOT a "vital service for the nation" regardless of the fantasies of some individual hams. Corroborating evidence would be old documents. Paper isn't as ephemeral as electronic data but it can be faked. However, it is fairly easy to see where old forms have been "touched up" to insert other data. A DD 214 form has been relatively unchanged in 50 years, for example...the major change being in that old military records were typed in by manual typists...as were old government forms such as license certificates. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE to fake/substitute/distort old books and periodicals that were printed in thousands of identical copies and distributed to subscribers, libraries, and stores. Nearly all old documents can be scanned, digitized for distribution as proof of something...or xerocopied at a nickel a page. From now on I'm going to call him "Dudly" just to make the distinction between the real K4YZ and the newsgroup imposter. (The NIS should have fun with this guy!) NIS? I'd suggest NIH (National Institute of Health). Nut case. pea nut |
wrote: From: Frank Just Here to Cover Lennie's back Gilliland on Wed 24 Aug 2005 00:18 How does that saying go..... "fake it till you make it". Apparently he didn't make it. Wrong. For a while, Steve was "communications officer" of a Tennessee State Guard unit with a "title" of "1st Lieutenant." [TN State Guard is NOT affiliated with federal National Guard] Had his picture in the State Guard web pages. For a while. Then it wasn't there anymore. Stebie claimed he "had to move" and other things. But he quit mentioning his "commission" soon afterwards. Sound suspicious? (1) The Tennessee State Guard (the counterpart of California's own "State Military Reserve") IS affiliated with the Tennessee National Guard. Tennessee State's website (under Military Department) refers. (2) Move? (3) I didn't continue my membership in the TNSG as they didn't have an effective mission as opposed to the CAP. Perhaps Steve really has a private pilot's license. The FAA's database is too complicated for you? But, having once been keen on private flying as a fun thing to do, and then being around aviation while engaged in designing civilian and military avionics, I've NEVER heard a private pilot refer to themselves as "pilot in command!" Again, you're welcome to refer to the FAR's. If you're the manipulator of the controls in a crewed aircraft or are the sole aviator, you are the "pilot-in-command". That's a USAF thing for high-rankers entitled to wear wings with the laurel wreath around the star above the shield on their wings. Nope. That's a "Command Pilot." Having never been in the USAF, I guess you wouldn't know the difference...but then you don't let a lack of practical experience stop you for a LOT of things, now do you, Lennie...?!?! He is in a TN CAP unit "flying missions" involving search-and- rescue. Ahem. Like there's a LOT of flying around TN? As a matter of fact...there is. AND disaster relief. AND Homeland Defense. AND communications support. Steve LOVES uniforms. On himself. Scrubs, cammies, or a one-piece "flight suit." Doesn't matter...as long as it makes him look IMPORTANT. He be a "somebody." Yep...On many different levels. Lennie, by his own admission, has only particpated in ONE act of civil support at ANY time in his life. The rest of his life has been spent harrassing and antagonizing those who do. What makes you think he's even a ham? It's clear that the person claiming to be K4YZ in this newsgroup isn't Gunny Robeson. Frank Gilliland is a liar. Or a fool. I am torn as to which might be more appropriate. Maybe both? Well, there IS a Steven James Robeson in the FCC database for amateur radio licensees under granted callsign of K4YZ. From there on we have NO evidence to support Dudly's claims of USMC service other than his "word." As much as we have YOUR "word" about your service in the Army in 1953. There IS a registry with the state of Tennessee for a Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) with the name Steven James Robeson. Not for an RN (Registered Nurse) as would be common in California for ER (Emergency Room) work. Agreed that there are differences between states on medical organization/procedure but it is UNLIKELY that "lower-ranking" nurses would be directly involved with ER work. Oh? I used to WORK in hospitals in Southern California (Hoag Memorial, Irvine Medical center) both of which employed LVN's (CA and TX use the term LVN...The other 48 use "LPN") [I know some medical people in California, including two MDs, who say that is unlikely] Unlikely in THIER facilites, perhaps. Quite common elsewhere. If the -real- Gunny Robeson is K4YZ then this imposter is stealing both his military history -and- his amateur status. Not an idle matter for military. They DO have rather complete information on military personnel and agencies who can investigate fully. Obviously not. Neither of you seem to be able to utilize ANY system. pea nut Yes, you are, Lennie. Steve, K4YZ |
On 24 Aug 2005 14:44:41 -0700, "
wrote in .com: snip Dudly LOVES uniforms. On himself. Scrubs, cammies, or a one-piece "flight suit." Doesn't matter...as long as it makes him look IMPORTANT. He be a "somebody." Classic narcissism -- he thinks the uniform will command the respect he thinks he deserves. And by looking through a few of his posts it looks like he has a 'wannabe-hero' complex as well. But I really think this newsgroup facade is just the tip of the iceberg. How much you wanna bet he has a Crown Victoria with door-mounted spotlights and a light bar in the trunk? snip If the -real- Gunny Robeson is K4YZ then this imposter is stealing both his military history -and- his amateur status. Not an idle matter for military. Certainly not. The Master Gunny I called up the other day was really adamant about checking out Dudly's story. snip A DD 214 form has been relatively unchanged in 50 years, While I was hashing out Kerry's record with Dave Hall (N3CVJ) it became obvious that the DD-214 was used for both discharges -and- transfers until around 1980 (official title: "Report of Transfer or Discharge"). That's how the Rove/Bush campaign managed to confuse the public regarding Kerry's service -- using shill blogs (and sheople like N3CVJ) to suggest that Kerry's records were somehow forged or faked. Anyway, Gunny Robeson should have more than one DD-214. Dudly has claimed to have only one. Looks like he flunked again. for example...the major change being in that old military records were typed in by manual typists...as were old government forms such as license certificates. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE to fake/substitute/distort old books and periodicals that were printed in thousands of identical copies and distributed to subscribers, libraries, and stores. Nearly all old documents can be scanned, digitized for distribution as proof of something...or xerocopied at a nickel a page. I have a microfiche copy of both my SRB and medical records. They were sent to me after my final discharge. It's pretty hard to retouch a hundred or so pages crammed onto a 4' x 5' negative. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:54:43 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote in : snip While I was hashing out Kerry's record with Dave Hall (N3CVJ) it became obvious that the DD-214 was used for both discharges -and- transfers until around 1980 (official title: "Report of Transfer or Discharge"). Correction: I checked my own DD-214 and the 'edition' date is 1 JUL 79 and entitled "Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty". So it has changed over the years but not much -- the only difference is that they don't use it for transfers anymore. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
wrote: From: Frank Gilliland on Wed 24 Aug 2005 00:18 On 23 Aug 2005 18:27:27 -0700, wrote in snip Author and screenwriter Ernest K. Gann's semi-autobiography "Fate Is The Hunter" described how a guy faked his way into being #3 (seniority) pilot on a new airline starting up between San Francisco and Hawaii around the 1950s (Gann was #2 and an airline pilot since before WW2).* This fake had "self-taught" himself how to fly while in the State Department during WW2 going to and from South America. He's faked his way into this new airline but had NO time on four-motor aircraft nor could he fly well with the autopilot off. After an FAA check-ride resulted in such a poor demo, the FAA found out he had NEVER gotten an Air Transport rating! Fake went bye- bye but later got onto another beginning airline doing the same thing...but killing himself and passengers. How does that saying go..... "fake it till you make it". Apparently he didn't make it. Sometimes an imposter can hang around a long time if he's got a knack of diverting attention from himself to others. That is what Dudly does in here. He spends long hours at it. For a while, Dudly was "communications officer" of a Tennessee State Guard unit with a "title" of "1st Lieutenant." [TN State Guard is NOT affiliated with federal National Guard] Had his picture in the State Guard web pages. For a while. Then it wasn't there anymore. Stebie claimed he "had to move" and other things. But he quit mentioning his "commission" soon afterwards. Sound suspicious? :-) He'll do any-damned-thing to get into a uniform, including becoming a nurse. Then he claims he doesn't wear a white dress. There's Dudly's famous foray into civilian electronics "engineering" for a few months...as a Purchasing Agent. A Purchasing Agent just doesn't DO a single bit of engineering yet Dudly could "tell us all about it from his 'experience.'" Didn't last a half year. Even then he would get confused on which "division" he was in. Why so SHORT an employment? Didn't he work at a "You've got questions, Steve's got blank stares" location? Perhaps Dudly really has a private pilot's license. But, having once been keen on private flying as a fun thing to do, and then being around aviation while engaged in designing civilian and military avionics, I've NEVER heard a private pilot refer to themselves as "pilot in command!" That's a USAF thing for high-rankers entitled to wear wings with the laurel wreath around the star above the shield on their wings. Hey, hey, hey! I had an anemometer with a star and a laurel wreath around it but it didn't entitle me to be "Weatheman In Command." Pffft. It was the "master meteorologist" badge. He is in a TN CAP unit "flying missions" involving search-and- rescue. Ahem. Like there's a LOT of flying around TN? :-) Steve likes to volunteer for things where there's nothing to do... "A" NCOIC, for example. Dudly LOVES uniforms. On himself. Scrubs, cammies, or a one-piece "flight suit." Doesn't matter...as long as it makes him look IMPORTANT. He be a "somebody." He's "somebodies buddy." That "somebody-ness" is not unusual in the hobby of amateur radio. Licensees are "federally-authorized" and they have to pass a TEST! Some consider themselves VITAL to the nation in emergencies when "all else fails" and they can save the day by heroic morsemanship...the only mode that gets through! [geez] They dream up incredible disaster scenarios where only Morse Code will get through. Hi! * In the book, not in the shortened black-and-white movie of the same title name. It's in Chapter 16 (or "XVI" as typeset), character name given as "Dudley." That might be a good nickname for Steve -- "Dudly the Dud", or maybe "Dudly Didn't-Do-Right"..... You've got it. I opt for just "Dudly." Wonder who's tied to the RR track? Too bad cause he's obviously a smart guy -- just really screwed up. Stebie has an Extra. He's also said his nine-year-old can pass it. Doesn't say much about the mentality or maturity required to pass an amateur test. What makes you think he's even a ham? It's clear that the person claiming to be K4YZ in this newsgroup isn't Gunny Robeson. Well, there IS a Steven James Robeson in the FCC database for amateur radio licensees under granted callsign of K4YZ. From there on we have NO evidence to support Dudly's claims of USMC service other than his "word." He doesn't even have a Marine haircut. There IS a registry with the state of Tennessee for a Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) with the name Steven James Robeson. Not for an RN (Registered Nurse) as would be common in California for ER (Emergency Room) work. Maybe he hangs around just in case they need a mop-up. Agreed that there are differences between states on medical organization/procedure but it is UNLIKELY that "lower-ranking" nurses would be directly involved with ER work. [I know some medical people in California, including two MDs, who say that is unlikely] We don't know if Dudly is employed right now or even where he is employed as an LPN...not unusual since our "renowned historian of amateur lore" in here refuses to give the name of his engineering employer. Ambulance driver. If the -real- Gunny Robeson is K4YZ then this imposter is stealing both his military history -and- his amateur status. Not an idle matter for military. They DO have rather complete information on military personnel and agencies who can investigate fully. For amateur radio it can be an idle matter since amateur radio is essentially a hobby, a personal radio activity done for recreation. Amateur radio is NOT a "vital service for the nation" regardless of the fantasies of some individual hams. Corroborating evidence would be old documents. Paper isn't as ephemeral as electronic data but it can be faked. Ask CBS. However, it is fairly easy to see where old forms have been "touched up" to insert other data. A DD 214 form has been relatively unchanged in 50 years, for example...the major change being in that old military records were typed in by manual typists...as were old government forms such as license certificates. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE to fake/substitute/distort old books and periodicals that were printed in thousands of identical copies and distributed to subscribers, libraries, and stores. Nearly all old documents can be scanned, digitized for distribution as proof of something...or xerocopied at a nickel a page. All I asked for was a copy of his letter of appointment to "A" NCOIC Okinawa MARS. From now on I'm going to call him "Dudly" just to make the distinction between the real K4YZ and the newsgroup imposter. (The NIS should have fun with this guy!) NIS? I'd suggest NIH (National Institute of Health). Nut case. pea nut NIMH = National Institute of Mental Health. |
Frank Gilliland wrote: On 24 Aug 2005 14:44:41 -0700, " wrote in .com: snip Dudly LOVES uniforms. On himself. Scrubs, cammies, or a one-piece "flight suit." Doesn't matter...as long as it makes him look IMPORTANT. He be a "somebody." Classic narcissism -- he thinks the uniform will command the respect he thinks he deserves. And by looking through a few of his posts it looks like he has a 'wannabe-hero' complex as well. But I really think this newsgroup facade is just the tip of the iceberg. How much you wanna bet he has a Crown Victoria with door-mounted spotlights and a light bar in the trunk? So he can drive like a bat-outta-hell to get to the CAP Cessna to chase down malfunctioning epirbs. snip If the -real- Gunny Robeson is K4YZ then this imposter is stealing both his military history -and- his amateur status. Not an idle matter for military. Certainly not. The Master Gunny I called up the other day was really adamant about checking out Dudly's story. Also claims to have held USN/MC MARS calls. It would be interesting to see how much equipment he's drawn out of DRMO and how often he makes training and operating quotas. |
First Stevie when you goign to cut the bull**** about michigan
wrote: wrote: cut That "somebody-ness" is not unusual in the hobby of amateur radio. Licensees are "federally-authorized" and they have to pass a TEST! Some consider themselves VITAL to the nation in emergencies when "all else fails" and they can save the day by heroic morsemanship...the only mode that gets through! [geez] They dream up incredible disaster scenarios where only Morse Code will get through. Hi! I still like to hear one however unlikely where only morse coded cw will work and yet the messages can do do anything the best I have was Independance day cut There IS a registry with the state of Tennessee for a Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) with the name Steven James Robeson. Not for an RN (Registered Nurse) as would be common in California for ER (Emergency Room) work. Maybe he hangs around just in case they need a mop-up. Stevie has admitted to being an RN dropout cut From now on I'm going to call him "Dudly" just to make the distinction between the real K4YZ and the newsgroup imposter. (The NIS should have fun with this guy!) NIS? I'd suggest NIH (National Institute of Health). Nut case. pea nut NIMH = National Institute of Mental Health. |
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: nobodys old friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: nobodys old friend wrote: how long are you going to carry on with you BS about michigan taking your claims seriously? What BS? you bs What BS? (And that should have been "Your BS.", Markie) It is your BS? The proper grammatical structure was, Markie...Not that being "proper" is important to you. so what it is your bull**** you shovel it you claim Michigan would do something. According to them, they are. Lying again Stevie It will not Ooops. Wrong again. so you are lying and bsing when you claim it will Nope. yep if you were telling the turth and sent a letter then you have n't talked to them so you don't know they are doing something or not or else you lied when you said you contacted them by letter either way you lied so how long you going to keep it up It's not "mine" to "keep up", Markie. it sure is cuting the spelling cop "cutting" when you going to admit you are full of #### in claiming Michigan is going to do something on your say so more bs You censor out what I said but "respond" to it... another stevie lie You censor my words, I don't cesor your I choose to dismiss them and say so, but unlike you I don't alter the words of another person You do you violate the intelectual property of other people that makes you a theft of sorts, certainly a fraud Coward. you are the coward and the bully you have no right to demend I respond to every peice of **** you write you have leid and said they are investagting "lied" "investigating" a letter form out of state they laughed and threw it away "from" Nope. yep they have done something by now, or else theyd have lost it by now with there caseload if you are truely involeved in the medcail feild youd know that Steve, K4YZ |
From: Frank Gilliland on Aug 24, 3:54 pm
On 24 Aug 2005 14:44:41 -0700, " wrote in snip Dudly LOVES uniforms. On himself. Scrubs, cammies, or a one-piece "flight suit." Doesn't matter...as long as it makes him look IMPORTANT. He be a "somebody." Classic narcissism -- he thinks the uniform will command the respect he thinks he deserves. And by looking through a few of his posts it looks like he has a 'wannabe-hero' complex as well. Heh heh. It comes out in some of his other remarks, notably the personal insult kind: "You think you're so important!" - I've never assumed MY "importance" in much of anything done over the last seven decades. Dudly remarked more than once that "I just swept floors in aerospace [industry]" or that I was "just a technician." Well, I HAVE swept a floor or two and, in early years was an electronics technician but I worked my way up to being a Senior Engineering Staff employee with a load of responsibilities such as being the final sign-off on drawings' title blocks for a project I was assigned to, as engineer or project engineer. Those are typical remarks Dudly tried to put down in here. He wants to diminish ANY accomplishments of others that he deems are his "opponents." Dudly went on at great length about how Ham Radio magazine went "defunct" after I was on its staff as Associate Editor. Ham Radio was IN BUSINESS for 22 years as an independent ham radio oriented monthly. It is still regarded as the superior periodical for radio technology (in practical and theoretical ways) in North America. It never had the support of an entire membership organization to back them up monetarily (as does QST or QEX). The advertising monies were tightening up in the late 1980s and, without ad sales, an independent periodical can't operate. Seeing the handwriting on the ledger sheet, co-founder Publisher Skip Tenney decided to sell everything to CQ in 1990. CQ would have to drop its spin-off monthly, "CQ VHF", due to less and less ad sales. Even "73" magazine had to shut down completely. BUSINESS conditions. Dudly (and a few other duds in here) snarled and spouted about "defunct! defunct!" like it was a moral-negative condition. Both CQ and ARRL still sell 3-disk CD sets of all 22 years of Ham Radio's articles for $150. Not quite as "defunct" as they want to demonstrate. But I really think this newsgroup facade is just the tip of the iceberg. How much you wanna bet he has a Crown Victoria with door-mounted spotlights and a light bar in the trunk? Heh heh heh...I wouldn't bet against it... :-) snip If the -real- Gunny Robeson is K4YZ then this imposter is stealing both his military history -and- his amateur status. Not an idle matter for military. Certainly not. The Master Gunny I called up the other day was really adamant about checking out Dudly's story. In this Los Angeles area, it's not unusual to have a few dozen Crown Vics all dolled up as "official 'to protect and serve'" police cars. Several rental companies have them for movies and TV location shooting. A grip I met once said he'd bought a banged-up prop cop car from a rental company for his personal vehicle...said he made a mistake of keeping the paint black and white and the slogan on the side (but not the Mars Light bar or the City of L.A. logo on the door)...a BIG mistake he said...he got tickets for ALL kinds of things, moving and stationary violations, was hauled out and frisked more than once. He had to spend extra money to repaint the car "more civilian." Was a good vehicle even when he had to install smog controls that went into effect here (real cop cars were exempt from that). LAPD are fussy about imitators here, even IN the entertainment industry, and DO do things about those who are pretenders. snip A DD 214 form has been relatively unchanged in 50 years, While I was hashing out Kerry's record with Dave Hall (N3CVJ) it became obvious that the DD-214 was used for both discharges -and- transfers until around 1980 (official title: "Report of Transfer or Discharge"). That's how the Rove/Bush campaign managed to confuse the public regarding Kerry's service -- using shill blogs (and sheople like N3CVJ) to suggest that Kerry's records were somehow forged or faked. Anyway, Gunny Robeson should have more than one DD-214. Dudly has claimed to have only one. Looks like he flunked again. I was referring to the general nature of the form. :-) Can't help you on later editions. My single DD-214 form is dated 1 Jul 52 and was filled in at Fort Sheridan, IL, in February 1956. Back then its title was "Report of Separation From the Armed Forces of the United States." Other than an acknowledgement from the Winnebago County, IL, draft board on status change to "reserve" (inactive) received shortly thereafter, the only other form I got was the Honorable Discharge certificate in April 1960. Not a fancy certificate, either...:-) I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. for example...the major change being in that old military records were typed in by manual typists...as were old government forms such as license certificates. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE to fake/substitute/distort old books and periodicals that were printed in thousands of identical copies and distributed to subscribers, libraries, and stores. Nearly all old documents can be scanned, digitized for distribution as proof of something...or xerocopied at a nickel a page. I have a microfiche copy of both my SRB and medical records. They were sent to me after my final discharge. It's pretty hard to retouch a hundred or so pages crammed onto a 4' x 5' negative. Ow! Mass-reduction 'fiche! I'm used to the "IBM punch card 'fiche" which have only one image on the card, for drawings...or the library style 'fiche film reels, one newspaper-page-size image per frame. per fil |
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wrote: From: Frank Gilliland on Wed 24 Aug 2005 00:18 On 23 Aug 2005 18:27:27 -0700, wrote in Sometimes an imposter can hang around a long time if he's got a knack of diverting attention from himself to others. That is what Dudly does in here. He spends long hours at it. Tsk. He could be ON his radios "working the rare ones" or something like that vital to the nation's well-being. For a while, Dudly was "communications officer" of a Tennessee State Guard unit with a "title" of "1st Lieutenant." [TN State Guard is NOT affiliated with federal National Guard] Had his picture in the State Guard web pages. For a while. Then it wasn't there anymore. Stebie claimed he "had to move" and other things. But he quit mentioning his "commission" soon afterwards. Sound suspicious? :-) He'll do any-damned-thing to get into a uniform, including becoming a nurse. Then he claims he doesn't wear a white dress. Maybe he evolved into a George Clooney wannabe? [was one of the actors playing docs on "ER" but left] There's Dudly's famous foray into civilian electronics "engineering" for a few months...as a Purchasing Agent. A Purchasing Agent just doesn't DO a single bit of engineering yet Dudly could "tell us all about it from his 'experience.'" Didn't last a half year. Even then he would get confused on which "division" he was in. Why so SHORT an employment? Didn't he work at a "You've got questions, Steve's got blank stares" location? That's what he claimed. [Radio Shack to be exact...but the description probably fits...:-) ] Radio Shack is not exactly a hotbed of electronics expertise. Perhaps Dudly really has a private pilot's license. But, having once been keen on private flying as a fun thing to do, and then being around aviation while engaged in designing civilian and military avionics, I've NEVER heard a private pilot refer to themselves as "pilot in command!" That's a USAF thing for high-rankers entitled to wear wings with the laurel wreath around the star above the shield on their wings. Hey, hey, hey! I had an anemometer with a star and a laurel wreath around it but it didn't entitle me to be "Weatheman In Command." Pffft. It was the "master meteorologist" badge. Dudly needs to buy hisself one of those "official" Radio Cop shields complete with artificial leather wallet holder. He is in a TN CAP unit "flying missions" involving search-and- rescue. Ahem. Like there's a LOT of flying around TN? :-) Steve likes to volunteer for things where there's nothing to do... "A" NCOIC, for example. In truth, I've never met many MARS military personnel so I have NO idea what "Assistant" Non-Commissioned Officers In Charge would do. I suspect it is on par with "communications officer" in a state guard unit (not affiliated with National Guard)...get together with "the boys" once a month and play sojer. Dudly LOVES uniforms. On himself. Scrubs, cammies, or a one-piece "flight suit." Doesn't matter...as long as it makes him look IMPORTANT. He be a "somebody." He's "somebodies buddy." Really? I thought he hated everyone... That "somebody-ness" is not unusual in the hobby of amateur radio. Licensees are "federally-authorized" and they have to pass a TEST! Some consider themselves VITAL to the nation in emergencies when "all else fails" and they can save the day by heroic morsemanship...the only mode that gets through! [geez] They dream up incredible disaster scenarios where only Morse Code will get through. Hi! Fevered imaginations listening to too much QRN...hearing signals that aren't there. * In the book, not in the shortened black-and-white movie of the same title name. It's in Chapter 16 (or "XVI" as typeset), character name given as "Dudley." That might be a good nickname for Steve -- "Dudly the Dud", or maybe "Dudly Didn't-Do-Right"..... You've got it. I opt for just "Dudly." Wonder who's tied to the RR track? Ahem...not THAT "Dudly" but a less-animated black-and-white cartoon version tying his OWN feet to the track... There IS a registry with the state of Tennessee for a Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) with the name Steven James Robeson. Not for an RN (Registered Nurse) as would be common in California for ER (Emergency Room) work. Maybe he hangs around just in case they need a mop-up. Agreed that there are differences VAST differences I think...betweeen what he says and what he really is. All I asked for was a copy of his letter of appointment to "A" NCOIC Okinawa MARS. Did you really expect you would get one, Brian? :-) NIS? I'd suggest NIH (National Institute of Health). Nut case. NIMH = National Institute of Mental Health. Correction noted. Thank you. :-) Hmmm...on second thought, maybe the Center for Disease Control? Dudly's condition seems to be catching...Jeswald may have it now... Dan keeps falling down a lot with all that "plonking." :-) say sic |
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On 24 Aug 2005 17:35:53 -0700, "
wrote in . com: snip Those are typical remarks Dudly tried to put down in here. He wants to diminish ANY accomplishments of others that he deems are his "opponents." Well, he failed there, too. Now he has Tweedle Dave and Tweedle Buzz fighting his fights for him. snip LAPD are fussy about imitators here, even IN the entertainment industry, and DO do things about those who are pretenders. So do Marines. snip A DD 214 form has been relatively unchanged in 50 years, While I was hashing out Kerry's record with Dave Hall (N3CVJ) it became obvious that the DD-214 was used for both discharges -and- transfers until around 1980 (official title: "Report of Transfer or Discharge"). That's how the Rove/Bush campaign managed to confuse the public regarding Kerry's service -- using shill blogs (and sheople like N3CVJ) to suggest that Kerry's records were somehow forged or faked. Anyway, Gunny Robeson should have more than one DD-214. Dudly has claimed to have only one. Looks like he flunked again. I was referring to the general nature of the form. :-) My bad. Can't help you on later editions. My single DD-214 form is dated 1 Jul 52 and was filled in at Fort Sheridan, IL, in February 1956. Back then its title was "Report of Separation From the Armed Forces of the United States." One of Kerry's DD-214's (filled out 15 Dec. 66) was edition 1 NOV 55, and states that it "replaces edition of 1 JUL 52". Looks like your admin clerk took an extra-long Christmas vacation.....;-) snip I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. snip I have a microfiche copy of both my SRB and medical records. They were sent to me after my final discharge. It's pretty hard to retouch a hundred or so pages crammed onto a 4' x 5' negative. Ow! Mass-reduction 'fiche! I'm used to the "IBM punch card 'fiche" which have only one image on the card, for drawings...or the library style 'fiche film reels, one newspaper-page-size image per frame. The reels are bad enough, but the 4x5..... I can't even read it by scanning it at 1200 dpi! I would have to take it to a photo shop and have it enlarged. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
nobodys_old_friend wrote: First Stevie when you goign to cut the bull#### about michigan "going" What "bull####"...?!?! wrote: wrote: cut That's the first WISE thing you've done with ANYthing Lennie or PuppetBoy has written! There IS a registry with the state of Tennessee for a Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) with the name Steven James Robeson. Not for an RN (Registered Nurse) as would be common in California for ER (Emergency Room) work. Maybe he hangs around just in case they need a mop-up. Stevie has admitted to being an RN dropout Yet another Markl Morgan lie... Wonder where the proof of THAT assertion is...?!?! Sheeeeesh. Losers making up lies to facilitate being losers... That's the Infamous Four...Now the Feeble Five. Steve, K4YZ |
Frank of Silliland wrote: On 24 Aug 2005 17:35:53 -0700, " wrote in . com: snip Those are typical remarks Dudly tried to put down in here. He wants to diminish ANY accomplishments of others that he deems are his "opponents." Of course we have over seven YEARS of Lennie's "remarks" diminishing any/everyone who dared to "oppose" him... Well, he failed there, too. Now he has Tweedle Dave and Tweedle Buzz fighting his fights for him. So Frank of Silliland shows us his true colors, not that it was too much in doubt... Funny how when Frank of Silliland came in here his FIRST posts slammed Lennie as an "obvious fraud"...until it was pointed out that he was talking about Lennie... Frank wasn't even sure WHO he was "dissing". Of course you make the sarcastic commetns about anyone who may have something in support of me as being "Tweedle..".... But I wonder where that leaves YOU IRT fighting Lennie's and Mark's fights for them, Frank of Silliland...?!?! Afterall, that IS your only purpose here. snip LAPD are fussy about imitators here, even IN the entertainment industry, and DO do things about those who are pretenders. So do Marines. So stop pretending to be something, Frank... Put the Clancy novels away. SNIP snip I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. Judging by your interactions with Lennie, I'd say that should be a "Brown Nose" card. Being someone's yes-man isn't a USMC MOS, but I bet you were good at it. You seem to have it down pat here. Steve, K4YZ |
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 24 Aug 2005 17:35:53 -0700, " wrote in . com: snip Those are typical remarks Dudly tried to put down in here. He wants to diminish ANY accomplishments of others that he deems are his "opponents." Well, he failed there, too. Now he has Tweedle Dave and Tweedle Buzz fighting his fights for him. It's only fair, Twiddle Frank. After all, we've got a CBer and a non-ham (Twaddle Len) writing all sorts of malicious nonsense. snip LAPD are fussy about imitators here, even IN the entertainment industry, and DO do things about those who are pretenders. So do Marines. There you go. You've got a mission. Contact the Corps about Steve and let them know that he wasn't a Marine. snip A DD 214 form has been relatively unchanged in 50 years, While I was hashing out Kerry's record with Dave Hall (N3CVJ) it became obvious that the DD-214 was used for both discharges -and- transfers until around 1980 (official title: "Report of Transfer or Discharge"). That's how the Rove/Bush campaign managed to confuse the public regarding Kerry's service -- using shill blogs (and sheople like N3CVJ) to suggest that Kerry's records were somehow forged or faked. Anyway, Gunny Robeson should have more than one DD-214. Dudly has claimed to have only one. Looks like he flunked again. I was referring to the general nature of the form. :-) My bad. ....but just a few posts ago, a DD-214 (according to you) was for transfers and made Steve guilty of something. I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him? Dave K8MN |
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:42:41 GMT, Dave Heil sang:
"H-e-e-e-r-e I come to save the d-a-a-a-y!" Frank Gilliland wrote: On 24 Aug 2005 17:35:53 -0700, " wrote in . com: snip Those are typical remarks Dudly tried to put down in here. He wants to diminish ANY accomplishments of others that he deems are his "opponents." Well, he failed there, too. Now he has Tweedle Dave and Tweedle Buzz fighting his fights for him. It's only fair, Twiddle Frank. After all, we've got a CBer and a non-ham (Twaddle Len) writing all sorts of malicious nonsense. What you have is a USMC imposter that is probably also a ham imposter, and two EE's with verifiable military backgrounds. snip LAPD are fussy about imitators here, even IN the entertainment industry, and DO do things about those who are pretenders. So do Marines. There you go. You've got a mission. Contact the Corps about Steve and let them know that he wasn't a Marine. I let them know that a person in here is claiming to be a retired USMC gunny but is most likely an imposter, if that's what you mean. If they choose to act on it that's up to them. snip A DD 214 form has been relatively unchanged in 50 years, While I was hashing out Kerry's record with Dave Hall (N3CVJ) it became obvious that the DD-214 was used for both discharges -and- transfers until around 1980 (official title: "Report of Transfer or Discharge"). That's how the Rove/Bush campaign managed to confuse the public regarding Kerry's service -- using shill blogs (and sheople like N3CVJ) to suggest that Kerry's records were somehow forged or faked. Anyway, Gunny Robeson should have more than one DD-214. Dudly has claimed to have only one. Looks like he flunked again. I was referring to the general nature of the form. :-) My bad. ...but just a few posts ago, a DD-214 (according to you) was for transfers and made Steve guilty of something. I see that you are just as deficient in quantitative reasoning skills as you are in qualitative reasoning skills. To wit: From 1955 to 1979 the DD-214 was used for both transfers and discharges. Dudly claims to have served from 1974 until 1992, and therefore would have served five of those years during the time when the DD-214 was used for transfers. The only people who stay at one duty station for five years or more are high-ranking uppity-ups. Therefore, Gunny Robeson would have at least one (and probably two) DD-214's -in addition to- the DD-214 used for his discharge. Dudly only claims to have -one- DD-214. Therefore, Dudly is -not- Gunny Robeson. Did you understand that or do you need me to draw you a picture? I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him? What kind of Marine lets someone else fight his battles? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:42:41 GMT, Dave Heil sang: "H-e-e-e-r-e I come to save the d-a-a-a-y!" Frank Gilliland wrote: On 24 Aug 2005 17:35:53 -0700, " wrote in ps.com: snip Those are typical remarks Dudly tried to put down in here. He wants to diminish ANY accomplishments of others that he deems are his "opponents." Well, he failed there, too. Now he has Tweedle Dave and Tweedle Buzz fighting his fights for him. It's only fair, Twiddle Frank. After all, we've got a CBer and a non-ham (Twaddle Len) writing all sorts of malicious nonsense. What you have is a USMC imposter that is probably also a ham imposter, and two EE's with verifiable military backgrounds. I'm beginning to understand how you came to make PFC over and over. According to a CBer named Frank Gilliland, Steve was not a Marine and is probably not a radio amateur. I see. *guffaw* snip LAPD are fussy about imitators here, even IN the entertainment industry, and DO do things about those who are pretenders. So do Marines. There you go. You've got a mission. Contact the Corps about Steve and let them know that he wasn't a Marine. I let them know that a person in here is claiming to be a retired USMC gunny but is most likely an imposter, if that's what you mean. If they choose to act on it that's up to them. You let them know? Really? I have trouble believing you, Frank. snip A DD 214 form has been relatively unchanged in 50 years, While I was hashing out Kerry's record with Dave Hall (N3CVJ) it became obvious that the DD-214 was used for both discharges -and- transfers until around 1980 (official title: "Report of Transfer or Discharge"). That's how the Rove/Bush campaign managed to confuse the public regarding Kerry's service -- using shill blogs (and sheople like N3CVJ) to suggest that Kerry's records were somehow forged or faked. Anyway, Gunny Robeson should have more than one DD-214. Dudly has claimed to have only one. Looks like he flunked again. I was referring to the general nature of the form. :-) My bad. ...but just a few posts ago, a DD-214 (according to you) was for transfers and made Steve guilty of something. I see that you are just as deficient in quantitative reasoning skills as you are in qualitative reasoning skills. To wit: From 1955 to 1979 the DD-214 was used for both transfers and discharges. Dudly claims to have served from 1974 until 1992, and therefore would have served five of those years during the time when the DD-214 was used for transfers. The only people who stay at one duty station for five years or more are high-ranking uppity-ups. Therefore, Gunny Robeson would have at least one (and probably two) DD-214's -in addition to- the DD-214 used for his discharge. Dudly only claims to have -one- DD-214. Therefore, Dudly is -not- Gunny Robeson. Did you understand that or do you need me to draw you a picture? Sure, Frank. I understood what you wrote. I just can't accept it as fact. My DD-214 (you know, the full-sized one which I don't carry around with me), issued in 1972 says nothing about transfers. It is the only DD-214 issued to me in four years of service. I had three transfers while in the Air Force. None were on a DD-214. Go figure. I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him? What kind of Marine lets someone else fight his battles? You answer my question, I'll answer yours. Dave K8MN |
Frank of Silliland wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:42:41 GMT, Dave Heil sang: "H-e-e-e-r-e I come to save the d-a-a-a-y!" Well, he failed there, too. Now he has Tweedle Dave and Tweedle Buzz fighting his fights for him. It's only fair, Twiddle Frank. After all, we've got a CBer and a non-ham (Twaddle Len) writing all sorts of malicious nonsense. What you have is a USMC imposter that is probably also a ham imposter, and two EE's with verifiable military backgrounds. What we REALLY ahve here is some mealy-mouthed newsgroup mercenary who thought he could through some 'nomenclature" around and impress folks. Didn't work. Back to Silliland, frank. snip LAPD are fussy about imitators here, even IN the entertainment industry, and DO do things about those who are pretenders. So do Marines. There you go. You've got a mission. Contact the Corps about Steve and I let them know that a person in here is claiming to be a retired USMC gunny but is most likely an imposter, if that's what you mean. If they choose to act on it that's up to them. You did nothing of the sort. I see that you are just as deficient in quantitative reasoning skills as you are in qualitative reasoning skills. To wit: From 1955 to 1979 the DD-214 was used for both transfers and discharges. Dudly claims to have served from 1974 until 1992, and therefore would have served five of those years during the time when the DD-214 was used for transfers. The only people who stay at one duty station for five years or more are high-ranking uppity-ups. Therefore, Gunny Robeson would have at least one (and probably two) DD-214's -in addition to- the DD-214 used for his discharge. Dudly only claims to have -one- DD-214. Therefore, Dudly is -not- Gunny Robeson. Did you understand that or do you need me to draw you a picture? You might as well draw a picture, Frankie...crayons or watercolors? In either case it will look as infantile as your efforts to belittle MY service in the United States Marine Corps. I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him? What kind of Marine lets someone else fight his battles? Hey, YOU'RE the mercenary here, Frankie. Steve, K4YZ |
Dave Heil wrote: Frank of Silliland wrote: I let them know that a person in here is claiming to be a retired USMC gunny but is most likely an imposter, if that's what you mean. If they choose to act on it that's up to them. You let them know? Really? I have trouble believing you, Frank. That makes two of us. The Sergant Major of the Marine Corps would fall off his chair laughing at some silliness like that! But of course Frank IS rom Silliland, so I bet he's used to it! I see that you are just as deficient in quantitative reasoning skills as you are in qualitative reasoning skills. To wit: From 1955 to 1979 the DD-214 was used for both transfers and discharges. Dudly claims to have served from 1974 until 1992, and therefore would have served five of those years during the time when the DD-214 was used for transfers. The only people who stay at one duty station for five years or more are high-ranking uppity-ups. Therefore, Gunny Robeson would have at least one (and probably two) DD-214's -in addition to- the DD-214 used for his discharge. Dudly only claims to have -one- DD-214. Therefore, Dudly is -not- Gunny Robeson. Did you understand that or do you need me to draw you a picture? Sure, Frank. I understood what you wrote. I just can't accept it as fact. My DD-214 (you know, the full-sized one which I don't carry around with me), issued in 1972 says nothing about transfers. It is the only DD-214 issued to me in four years of service. I had three transfers while in the Air Force. None were on a DD-214. Go figure. The ONLY DD-214's I received in the USMC were at re-enlistments and my final -214. The -214 is NOT a "transfer" document except to "transfer" from Active Duty to severence or retirement. I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him? What kind of Marine lets someone else fight his battles? You answer my question, I'll answer yours. In other words Frankie wants you to back off so he and the Feeble Five can "have at me" by them selves...Guess it TAKES five... 73 Steve, K4YZ |
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:31:17 GMT, Dave Heil wrote
in : Frank Gilliland wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:42:41 GMT, Dave Heil sang: "H-e-e-e-r-e I come to save the d-a-a-a-y!" Frank Gilliland wrote: On 24 Aug 2005 17:35:53 -0700, " wrote in ups.com: snip Those are typical remarks Dudly tried to put down in here. He wants to diminish ANY accomplishments of others that he deems are his "opponents." Well, he failed there, too. Now he has Tweedle Dave and Tweedle Buzz fighting his fights for him. It's only fair, Twiddle Frank. After all, we've got a CBer and a non-ham (Twaddle Len) writing all sorts of malicious nonsense. What you have is a USMC imposter that is probably also a ham imposter, and two EE's with verifiable military backgrounds. I'm beginning to understand how you came to make PFC over and over. According to a CBer named Frank Gilliland, Steve was not a Marine and is probably not a radio amateur. I see. *guffaw* No, I don't think you see at all; I'm saying that the person in this newsgroup posting as N4YZ is not Gunnery Sergeant Steven J. Robeson, USMC Retired. As far as I know it's you posting as K4YZ (seeing as how you two tend to post at almost the same time of day). snip LAPD are fussy about imitators here, even IN the entertainment industry, and DO do things about those who are pretenders. So do Marines. There you go. You've got a mission. Contact the Corps about Steve and let them know that he wasn't a Marine. I let them know that a person in here is claiming to be a retired USMC gunny but is most likely an imposter, if that's what you mean. If they choose to act on it that's up to them. You let them know? Really? I have trouble believing you, Frank. I really don't care what you believe, Dave. snip A DD 214 form has been relatively unchanged in 50 years, While I was hashing out Kerry's record with Dave Hall (N3CVJ) it became obvious that the DD-214 was used for both discharges -and- transfers until around 1980 (official title: "Report of Transfer or Discharge"). That's how the Rove/Bush campaign managed to confuse the public regarding Kerry's service -- using shill blogs (and sheople like N3CVJ) to suggest that Kerry's records were somehow forged or faked. Anyway, Gunny Robeson should have more than one DD-214. Dudly has claimed to have only one. Looks like he flunked again. I was referring to the general nature of the form. :-) My bad. ...but just a few posts ago, a DD-214 (according to you) was for transfers and made Steve guilty of something. I see that you are just as deficient in quantitative reasoning skills as you are in qualitative reasoning skills. To wit: From 1955 to 1979 the DD-214 was used for both transfers and discharges. Dudly claims to have served from 1974 until 1992, and therefore would have served five of those years during the time when the DD-214 was used for transfers. The only people who stay at one duty station for five years or more are high-ranking uppity-ups. Therefore, Gunny Robeson would have at least one (and probably two) DD-214's -in addition to- the DD-214 used for his discharge. Dudly only claims to have -one- DD-214. Therefore, Dudly is -not- Gunny Robeson. Did you understand that or do you need me to draw you a picture? Sure, Frank. I understood what you wrote. I just can't accept it as fact. My DD-214 (you know, the full-sized one which I don't carry around with me), issued in 1972 says nothing about transfers. You may have some new information. What's the title and edition date of -your- DD-214? It is the only DD-214 issued to me in four years of service. I had three transfers while in the Air Force. None were on a DD-214. Go figure. Interesting indeed. I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him? What kind of Marine lets someone else fight his battles? You answer my question, I'll answer yours. Grow up. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Frank Gilliland wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:31:17 GMT, Dave Heil wrote in : I'm beginning to understand how you came to make PFC over and over. According to a CBer named Frank Gilliland, Steve was not a Marine and is probably not a radio amateur. I see. *guffaw* No, I don't think you see at all; I'm saying that the person in this newsgroup posting as N4YZ is not Gunnery Sergeant Steven J. Robeson, USMC Retired. No one here IS posting as N4YZ, Fankie. As far as I know it's you posting as K4YZ (seeing as how you two tend to post at almost the same time of day). You're posting a the same time too, Frankie... Maybe YOU are Dave, K8MN AND K4YZ...?!?! I let them know that a person in here is claiming to be a retired USMC gunny but is most likely an imposter, if that's what you mean. If they choose to act on it that's up to them. You let them know? Really? I have trouble believing you, Frank. I really don't care what you believe, Dave. You're responding to his posts...Obviously you DO care. Sure, Frank. I understood what you wrote. I just can't accept it as fact. My DD-214 (you know, the full-sized one which I don't carry around with me), issued in 1972 says nothing about transfers. You may have some new information. What's the title and edition date of -your- DD-214? I imagine YOUR "information" is only as current as the last Clancy novel you read. It is the only DD-214 issued to me in four years of service. I had three transfers while in the Air Force. None were on a DD-214. Go figure. Interesting indeed. What's interesting about it? I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him? What kind of Marine lets someone else fight his battles? You answer my question, I'll answer yours. Grow up. Well HEAVEN FORBID that you'd actually answer a question instead of trying to fan flamewars that you are only Johnny-come-lately too, Frankie! Steve, K4YZ |
when you going to stop avoiding the question
most likely never K4YZ wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:31:17 GMT, Dave Heil wrote in : cut You answer my question, I'll answer yours. Grow up. Well HEAVEN FORBID that you'd actually answer a question instead of trying to fan flamewars that you are only Johnny-come-lately too, Frankie! why should or I for that matter answer your question you don't answer answeringany yourself Steve, K4YZ |
nobodys_old_friend wrote: when you going to stop avoiding the question What question? What "bull####"...?!?! When are YOU going to stop avoiding the question (about errors with your callsign? You've "cut" it seven times now...Wassamatta..?!?! most likely never What question? What "bull####"...?!?! K4YZ wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:31:17 GMT, Dave Heil wrote in : cut You answer my question, I'll answer yours. Grow up. Well HEAVEN FORBID that you'd actually answer a question instead of trying to fan flamewars that you are only Johnny-come-lately to, Frankie! why should or I for that matter answer your question Why indeed. You usually (not always) avoid tough questions, Markie. you don't answer answering any yourself Sure I do. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: nobodys_old_friend wrote: when you going to stop avoiding the question What question? What "bull****"...?!?! Your Bull**** your claims that Michigan is going to do something to me ? you claims that My lying to you is in anyway subejct to any knid of scantion from michigan When are YOU going to stop avoiding the question (about errors with your callsign? You've "cut" it seven times now...Wassamatta..?!?! becuase the question is irelavant wther or not you have continued to mangle my callsign has nothing to do the fact you did it most likely never What question? What "bull####"...?!?! K4YZ wrote: Frank Gilliland wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:31:17 GMT, Dave Heil wrote in : cut You answer my question, I'll answer yours. Grow up. Well HEAVEN FORBID that you'd actually answer a question instead of trying to fan flamewars that you are only Johnny-come-lately to, Frankie! why should or I for that matter answer your question Why indeed. You usually (not always) avoid tough questions, Markie. you don't answer answering any yourself Sure I do. Your Seven Hostile Actions? Proof that did anything with your Mars Callsigns Why don't you know the equipment you worked with? there are many others that show a liar Steve, K4YZ |
From: Frank Gilliland on Wed 24 Aug 2005 23:58
wrote in snip Those are typical remarks Dudly tried to put down in here. He wants to diminish ANY accomplishments of others that he deems are his "opponents." Well, he failed there, too. Now he has Tweedle Dave and Tweedle Buzz fighting his fights for him. Tweedle Davie is real. Tweedle Buzzy is an anony-mouse...worse, Buzzy taking the name of a TV show "hero" of yesteryear (or is it a comic strip character?). I classify Buzzy as about as relevant as "Brewster Rockit, Space Guy" or "Buzz Lightyear." :-) snip LAPD are fussy about imitators here, even IN the entertainment industry, and DO do things about those who are pretenders. So do Marines. So do all the military branches. Anyone who puts their life on the line for their country/community feels protective about their service organization. snip A DD 214 form has been relatively unchanged in 50 years, While I was hashing out Kerry's record with Dave Hall (N3CVJ) it became obvious that the DD-214 was used for both discharges -and- transfers until around 1980 (official title: "Report of Transfer or Discharge"). That's how the Rove/Bush campaign managed to confuse the public regarding Kerry's service -- using shill blogs (and sheople like N3CVJ) to suggest that Kerry's records were somehow forged or faked. Anyway, Gunny Robeson should have more than one DD-214. Dudly has claimed to have only one. Looks like he flunked again. I was referring to the general nature of the form. :-) My bad. No problem with me. :-) Can't help you on later editions. My single DD-214 form is dated 1 Jul 52 and was filled in at Fort Sheridan, IL, in February 1956. Back then its title was "Report of Separation From the Armed Forces of the United States." One of Kerry's DD-214's (filled out 15 Dec. 66) was edition 1 NOV 55, and states that it "replaces edition of 1 JUL 52". Looks like your admin clerk took an extra-long Christmas vacation.....;-) Heh heh heh heh. How about that? :-) All I know is that mine was typed-in by a cute but robotic E-4 gal on a Saturday at Fort Sheridan. Our processing was pushed suddenly due to an influx of others expected in from Yurp on the next Monday (ahead of some kind of schedule they thought they had). Unfortunately, some yo-yo will pick that item up as some kind of "proof" that "I never served" or something vacuous or puerile. However, the Social Security folks, the Department of the Army, the National Archives and Records Administration, FBI, IRS, etc., all accept the fact. :-) snip I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. I bought one at Fort Sheridan in '56 for $2...was mailed to me in a week. Impulse buy then. Has been fun to pull out when the need arises to "prove" something to big-mouths met in person. Laminated in plastic, it has lasted 49 years in my wallet. :-) I would rank it FAR higher in value than some "ham radio badge" (shield)(cop-wannabe style) that some outfit was advertising on a ham website once. Jay-suss, imagine elevating a hobby license to police-like status with a BADGE. THAT kind of raddio kopp ought to be read a "Miranda": "You have the right to remain silent...anything you do or say will be held against you...etc" Sounds like Davie Heil has one of those buzzers... bit bit |
From: Frank Gilliland on Thurs 25 Aug 2005 04:22
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:42:41 GMT, Dave Heil sang: "H-e-e-e-r-e I come to save the d-a-a-a-y!" :-) Frank Gilliland wrote: On 24 Aug 2005 17:35:53 -0700, " snip Those are typical remarks Dudly tried to put down in here. He wants to diminish ANY accomplishments of others that he deems are his "opponents." Well, he failed there, too. Now he has Tweedle Dave and Tweedle Buzz fighting his fights for him. It's only fair, Twiddle Frank. After all, we've got a CBer and a non-ham (Twaddle Len) writing all sorts of malicious nonsense. What you have is a USMC imposter that is probably also a ham imposter, and two EE's with verifiable military backgrounds. Tsk. Davie is jumping in NOT to "save the day" but to avenge his own ego, his perception of himself as "superior" to most others not of his exhaulted extra status...and from wounds still open from long ago in the newsgroup when he was a "rare one" in foreign ham lands. :-) snip LAPD are fussy about imitators here, even IN the entertainment industry, and DO do things about those who are pretenders. So do Marines. There you go. You've got a mission. Contact the Corps about Steve and let them know that he wasn't a Marine. I let them know that a person in here is claiming to be a retired USMC gunny but is most likely an imposter, if that's what you mean. If they choose to act on it that's up to them. That's as it should be...for ALL impersonators of military service. ...but just a few posts ago, a DD-214 (according to you) was for transfers and made Steve guilty of something. I see that you are just as deficient in quantitative reasoning skills as you are in qualitative reasoning skills. To wit: From 1955 to 1979 the DD-214 was used for both transfers and discharges. Dudly claims to have served from 1974 until 1992, and therefore would have served five of those years during the time when the DD-214 was used for transfers. The only people who stay at one duty station for five years or more are high-ranking uppity-ups. Therefore, Gunny Robeson would have at least one (and probably two) DD-214's -in addition to- the DD-214 used for his discharge. Dudly only claims to have -one- DD-214. Therefore, Dudly is -not- Gunny Robeson. Did you understand that or do you need me to draw you a picture? Davie needs it done in triplicate on official Department of State forms. He was in "the foreign service," ya know. :-) Ackshully, Davie just loves to FIGHT...but not in any continuous day-in, day-out basis like Dudly. Davie thinks he is in some kind of "restricted area" open only for "his kind." Davie also totally lacks any of the diplomatic skills of the Department of State in his postings here. Archtypical "ugly American" picture he presents. I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him? What kind of Marine lets someone else fight his battles? Davie was NEVER in the USMC. He claims to be ex-air-farts...plus another bunch of Dudly-like generalities of implied "in-country" action in Vietnam. Lots of generalities, NO specifics...save for supposedly doing MARS work in 'Nam. There it is interesting in similarities. At first Davie did not mention his MARS work there. In another thread I did quote some items from the Army Center of Military History wherein they said that MARS radio contacts with the States were excellent for morale purposes and did much for both servicemen and their families and friends. Later, Davie was claiming HE did MARS things in Vietnam. For the USA the Vietnam War ENDED 30 years ago...and so did the "Draft." WE (the readers) are NOT supposed to challenge anything of this esteemed (or steamed) veteran of "the foreign service." Nor have WE any right to request any proof of HIS statements. Tsk, tsk. I carry that little miniature DD-214 with me because I got it in 1956 then as a memento. Laminated in plastic, no bigger than any other card in my wallet, it doesn't take up much space. It IS a handy proof, easily producible, for those who challenge my time and service (a few have in-person). If they need more, I can always copy the original documents full-size, stored in my safety deposit box. So far, only personnel departments have requested that much. That miniature form is also a good conversation piece at social gatherings...:-) It also caused one "imposter" in a social group to slink away when confronted about His "exploits." :-) gon imp |
On 25 Aug 2005 16:04:22 -0700, "
wrote in .com: snip Can't help you on later editions. My single DD-214 form is dated 1 Jul 52 and was filled in at Fort Sheridan, IL, in February 1956. Back then its title was "Report of Separation From the Armed Forces of the United States." One of Kerry's DD-214's (filled out 15 Dec. 66) was edition 1 NOV 55, and states that it "replaces edition of 1 JUL 52". Looks like your admin clerk took an extra-long Christmas vacation.....;-) Heh heh heh heh. How about that? :-) All I know is that mine was typed-in by a cute but robotic E-4 gal on a Saturday at Fort Sheridan. Our processing was pushed suddenly due to an influx of others expected in from Yurp on the next Monday (ahead of some kind of schedule they thought they had). Unfortunately, some yo-yo will pick that item up as some kind of "proof" that "I never served" or something vacuous or puerile. Just be glad you weren't running for President. However, the Social Security folks, the Department of the Army, the National Archives and Records Administration, FBI, IRS, etc., all accept the fact. :-) Four months through the supply line in 1952 isn't worrisome enough to require even a mild laxative. It's not like they could have downloaded the form off the internet and printed it up on an HP. And it's still common practice to use up old forms before popping open a fresh box of replacements -- as long as the intended purpose is within the scope of the old form. But I'm sure -someone- will pitch a bitch. snip I carry around a credit-card-size reduction of my DD-214 for fun, have used it as local proof (needs a magnifying glass to see the detail). Once got into a conversation with a Vietvet at a party who had gotten a similar laminated reduction...he got out in '74... we compared forms and they seemed to be very nearly identical. Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my Blue Nose card. I bought one at Fort Sheridan in '56 for $2...was mailed to me in a week. Impulse buy then. Has been fun to pull out when the need arises to "prove" something to big-mouths met in person. Laminated in plastic, it has lasted 49 years in my wallet. :-) I would rank it FAR higher in value than some "ham radio badge" (shield)(cop-wannabe style) that some outfit was advertising on a ham website once. Jay-suss, imagine elevating a hobby license to police-like status with a BADGE. Yeah, some of these hams have real issues. They aren't all hams, but for some reason they are often attracted to ham radio. A couple years ago I tried to sell an old 16-ch Regency that covered 137-150 MHz and would have been a great starter radio or backup for 2m. Yet almost everyone who responded wanted to know if it could be converted to cover the police and/or fire bands and none of them would show proof of licensure when asked. Kinda scary to think that there are so many nuts out there just waiting for an opportunity to impersonate a cop. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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