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an_old_friend September 6th 05 12:52 AM


Dave Heil wrote:
an Old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an Old friend wrote:


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I noticed that you made no comments about "Colonel" Mark Morgan's recent
outrageous lies about me. Why is that? Did you see the quoted Google
material which revealed his claims to be a lie? Aren't you, by your own
standards, responsible for his posts?


because I wasn't lying at worst I was eeing things differently than you

You posted baldfaced lies and when you were presented with facts, you
chose to ignore them. In fact, you continued with additional lies. If
you'd stoop to these lies, there's likely nothing about which you'd not lie.



what bald faced lies?


The lies which I outlined below. You know full well which baldfaced lies.

One thing you and Stvie need to learn is that disagreeing with isn't
lying
cut

There was no disagreement. There was only your posting of deliberate,
malicious untruths. You wrote that I was posting in a usenet
"personals" group. I wasn't. You wrote that I was flirting with a
woman. I wasn't. You wrote that I was flirting with a bisexual woman.
I wasn't. You wouldn't know the truth if it whapped you in the face.



you were posting in group consiting of nothing but presonal adds and
sexual flirtations


That is one lie. I was posting in alt.west-virginia.


no lie it was that named group but you were posting in group consiting
of nothing but presonal adds and sexual flirtations

you were posting stuff of a flirting nature, directed toward a bisexual
female


That is two more lies. I posted nothing of a flirtaceous nature and I
posted nothing to a bisexual female.


both true

I know the turth you lack a nodding understanding of it


You not only don't "know the turth", you incapable of being truthful.


I crtian can be, and yes I certainly can choose not to be

again One thing you and Stvie need to learn is that disagreeing with
isn't
lying


There is no disagreement, Mark. You flat out lied, deliberately,
brazenly and maliciously.

No lie what so ever


You're one of the most sorry human beings I've ever encountered.



you have nevr entounteed me thnak god


No, I haven't entounteed you. I've encountered you right here.

Why are you "thnaking" a deity in which you have no belief?


where do you get that LIE


Dave K8MN



Dave Heil September 6th 05 01:00 AM

an Old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an Old friend wrote:

KØHB wrote:


"an Old friend" wrote



because I wasn't lying at worst I was eeing things differently than you


Yup, draftee Colonel Morgan of the Chemical Corps. It's not a lie. At worst,
the US Army is just "eeing things differently than you".


that stament of rank was alie as I admited years ago
both you and Dave and stevie refuse to accept that


"Both" is three people? I accept one of your lies as a lie. I accept a
number of your lies as lies. You can't be counted upon to tell the truth.


agreeded


You might be "agreeding" or you just might be lying about it.

as I have said many times you can't count on me to tell the turth about
where I am how to find me or my past. I don't think that is safe
behavoir


Posting malicious lies about someone on a newsgroup isn't safe behavior
either.

Mark C Morgan, 17366 N River Rd, Chassell, MI 49916

You're pretty easy to find, lies or no lies. The Radio Amateur Callbook
has you listed as does the FCC. Do you think your past is any less easy
to find?

you and Stevie prove me right


You're probably lying.

You came into this newsgroup blowing smoke and lying and you're still
doing it.

or adknowledge that a fellow has right to use what tols are at hand
when threatened as stevie did


Right. You lie and it is Steve Robeson's fault. I see.



another of YOUR lies


Naw, you're likely lying again, Colonel. You tell one lie and then
another to cover up the first.

I choose to defnd myself I choose that path and it worked quite well
stveie was posting for days about his efforts to track me down


Mark, finding anyone's whereabouts just isn't that tough as a rule. It
is even easier to find a U.S. radio amateur. Most Americans aren't in
hiding for any reason.

you refuse to accept that I know everyone lies


I know you lie and Stevie lies and everyone else


I can't believe a thing you say, Mark. You're most likely lying again
to cover another lie.

what I can't stand about you and some other your dishonesty about that
central point and that you make up stuff that you claim someone said
then say they leid in saying it


Let's see you come up with an example of your claim. After all, you
made up some things and attributed actions to me when an examination of
the facts by anyone at all would show you to be an outrageous liar.


You support and endorse crime for goodness sake you will willing aid
and abet it


Call that pool of typists, Mark. You're headed toward writing pure
gibberish. I have not and do not support, endorse or abet crime. You
are either lying or a fool. Which is it?

and you have admitted to this on hear


I know I've said it before, Mark, but it bears repeating: You're a twit.


Dave K8MN

an_old_friend September 6th 05 01:12 AM


Dave Heil wrote:
an Old friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an Old friend wrote:

K=D8HB wrote:


"an Old friend" wrote



because I wasn't lying at worst I was eeing things differently than =

you


Yup, draftee Colonel Morgan of the Chemical Corps. It's not a lie. =

At worst,
the US Army is just "eeing things differently than you".


that stament of rank was alie as I admited years ago
both you and Dave and stevie refuse to accept that

"Both" is three people? I accept one of your lies as a lie. I accept a
number of your lies as lies. You can't be counted upon to tell the tru=

th.

agreeded


You might be "agreeding" or you just might be lying about it.


I might indeed

as I have said many times you can't count on me to tell the turth about
where I am how to find me or my past. I don't think that is safe
behavoir


Posting malicious lies about someone on a newsgroup isn't safe behavior
either.


more threats Dave boring
more stalking

you and Stevie prove me right


You're probably lying.


not this time

You prove me right with most posts stevie with alomst every post

You came into this newsgroup blowing smoke and lying and you're still
doing it.

or adknowledge that a fellow has right to use what tols are at hand
when threatened as stevie did

Right. You lie and it is Steve Robeson's fault. I see.



another of YOUR lies


Naw, you're likely lying again, Colonel. You tell one lie and then
another to cover up the first.

I choose to defnd myself I choose that path and it worked quite well
stveie was posting for days about his efforts to track me down


Mark, finding anyone's whereabouts just isn't that tough as a rule. It
is even easier to find a U.S. radio amateur. Most Americans aren't in
hiding for any reason.

you refuse to accept that I know everyone lies


I know you lie and Stevie lies and everyone else


I can't believe a thing you say, Mark. You're most likely lying again
to cover another lie.

what I can't stand about you and some other your dishonesty about that
central point and that you make up stuff that you claim someone said
then say they leid in saying it


Let's see you come up with an example of your claim. After all, you
made up some things and attributed actions to me when an examination of
the facts by anyone at all would show you to be an outrageous liar.


your claim that I don't believe in god for example is a case where you
made up something


You support and endorse crime for goodness sake you will willing aid
and abet it


Call that pool of typists, Mark. You're headed toward writing pure
gibberish. I have not and do not support, endorse or abet crime. You
are either lying or a fool. Which is it?


you sure do support crime and are willing to aid it

and you have admitted to this on hear


I know I've said it before, Mark, but it bears repeating: You're a twit.


you are a lair and a bad one too
=20
=20
Dave K8MN



Mike Coslo September 6th 05 01:18 AM

wrote:
wrote:

snip

ever decide to build a major city on ground that is *below*
sea level and right next to three major bodies of water? And
in a hurricane zone?!)



Because it was fantastic for the mode of transportation available at
the time.


It was a good place to build a city. At that time we did not know that
tectonic forces were causing a thinning of the plate that New Orleans
and much of the east was sitting on was causing the subsidence of the
city. 3 feet every 100 years in fact, not a happy number when you are a
sea level port city. Coupled with the receding of the delta due to
natural and man made changes, and the raising of the sea level due to
global warming or whatever, you have a disaster waiting to happen. And
it happened.

More below.


Then it had momentum which brought us to the present point.
Are you suggesting the New Orleans be rebuilt at a different location,
or not be rebuilt at all?


It is not a good idea to rebuild the city of New Orleans in it's
present position. While New Orleans is sinking, the rest of the area is
sinking also. The Mississippi will almost certainly change its course
soon. It "wants" to start entering the Gulf of Mexico to the west of
where it does now, and it will probably do so through the Atchafalaya
river. SO we could rebuild the city, and it might not matter.

- Mike KB3EIA


Mike Coslo September 6th 05 01:46 AM

wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:


The water came from two sources. One was fresh water and the other salt
water from a storm surge. Water that was once some place else came to be
deposited in New Orleans and the world has suffered no increase or
decrease in the amount of water that exists in the world.



Do you know this from first-hand experience, or what?

The world

covering biblical flood is quite a different matter.



The known world in the biblical flood...
A huge amount of
water that doesn't exist here toady would have to had existed at that
time.



Why?


It would have had to be someplace else before the flood, and then
after the flood, it would have had to go some place else.



Much like the water in New Orleans. It wasn't there two weeks ago.
Three months from now it will be somewhere else. Will you be able to
account for all of the water then?


Hang on a second, Brian. The amount of water needed to raise the level
of water coverage to 29,035 feet above sea level does not simply come
and go like the water that flooded New Orleans and Mississippi and
Alabama. How much water do you figure that is?


Another interesting question:

During the rain and flood period, the ocean levels would have to raise
by many 10's of thousands of feet. What effect would this have on the
rotational velocity of the earth? Same thing when the water receded.



Probably rotate faster as a water covered earth should have far less
frictional drag than a rough land/mountain covered earth. If you
discount the atmosphere.


Assuming that the mass of the Earth was neither increased nor decreased
during the event, the rotation would slow down as the flood progressed,
ant then sped up as the water evaporated.

But given that no amount of water that could cover the entire earth can
be found today, the earth would speed up in rotation as the water went
to wherever it went. Like the skater who spins with he arms stretched
out, then pulls them in and speeds up. Should work that was AFAIK.


- Mike KB3EIA -

KØHB September 6th 05 01:46 AM


"Mike Coslo" wrote


If you look deeply enough, the snide remarks are not really about God. They
are about the people who would form God in their own image.

Problem is, that is an awful lot of people. Most, in fact.


I could believe in a god in the image of say, Pamela Anderson!

Beep beep!
de Hans, K0HB



KØHB September 6th 05 01:49 AM


wrote

Lighten up, Hans.


My doctor said my weight is (172#) is ideal for my height.

Beep beep!
de Hans, K0HB



Dave Heil September 6th 05 01:58 AM

KØHB wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote


If you look deeply enough, the snide remarks are not really about God. They
are about the people who would form God in their own image.

Problem is, that is an awful lot of people. Most, in fact.



I could believe in a god in the image of say, Pamela Anderson!


I can't accept a slutty, trailer trash deity who looks like five miles
of bad road.

Dave K8MN

an_old_friend September 6th 05 02:01 AM


Dave Heil wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote


If you look deeply enough, the snide remarks are not really about God. =

They
are about the people who would form God in their own image.

Problem is, that is an awful lot of people. Most, in fact.



I could believe in a god in the image of say, Pamela Anderson!


I can't accept a slutty, trailer trash deity who looks like five miles
of bad road.


ah yes show a streak of mysogny too

=20
Dave K8MN



Dave Heil September 6th 05 02:05 AM

an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an Old friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


an Old friend wrote:

cut


I noticed that you made no comments about "Colonel" Mark Morgan's recent
outrageous lies about me. Why is that? Did you see the quoted Google
material which revealed his claims to be a lie? Aren't you, by your own
standards, responsible for his posts?


because I wasn't lying at worst I was eeing things differently than you

You posted baldfaced lies and when you were presented with facts, you
chose to ignore them. In fact, you continued with additional lies. If
you'd stoop to these lies, there's likely nothing about which you'd not lie.


what bald faced lies?


The lies which I outlined below. You know full well which baldfaced lies.


One thing you and Stvie need to learn is that disagreeing with isn't
lying
cut

There was no disagreement. There was only your posting of deliberate,
malicious untruths. You wrote that I was posting in a usenet
"personals" group. I wasn't. You wrote that I was flirting with a
woman. I wasn't. You wrote that I was flirting with a bisexual woman.
I wasn't. You wouldn't know the truth if it whapped you in the face.


you were posting in group consiting of nothing but presonal adds and
sexual flirtations


That is one lie. I was posting in alt.west-virginia.



no lie it was that named group but you were posting in group consiting
of nothing but presonal adds and sexual flirtations


Well, your lie has started to fall apart and we have you admitting that
the post was in alt.west-virginia. Spammers target that group and
thousands of others, yet there are a goodly number of West Virginians
and transplanted West Virginians who have posted in that newsgroup.

you were posting stuff of a flirting nature, directed toward a bisexual
female


That is two more lies. I posted nothing of a flirtaceous nature and I
posted nothing to a bisexual female.



both true


Mark, if you are going to tell a lie, tell a good one. You provided
links which show your claim to be a lie. I directly quoted the posts
for which you provided links and I posted them right here. The quoted
material proves that you've lied. Your word is worthless.

I know the turth you lack a nodding understanding of it


You not only don't "know the turth", you incapable of being truthful.



I crtian


You cretin?

...can be, and yes I certainly can choose not to be


You continue to post deliberate falsehoods and admit that you can choose
to be untruthful. Well, there we have it.

again One thing you and Stvie need to learn is that disagreeing with
isn't
lying


There is no disagreement, Mark. You flat out lied, deliberately,
brazenly and maliciously.


No lie what so ever


Then again, you are simply lying to cover your other lies.


You're one of the most sorry human beings I've ever encountered.


you have nevr entounteed me thnak god


No, I haven't entounteed you. I've encountered you right here.

Why are you "thnaking" a deity in which you have no belief?



where do you get that LIE


....from Mark Morgan, self-described pagan.

Dave K8MN


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