wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm

wrote:
From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:


If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned.

But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were
in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place?

Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true!

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

By the way, WHERE was this "front?" You guys keep talking about
the "front lines" like it was in World War ONE. Wasn't like
that. Ask Jimmie Noserve. He was THERE...in spirit...through
his books...he read all about it.

Then it would seem you were in good company, Lennie.

The only place YOU ever "served" on a "front line" was in a Clancy
novel or in the chow hall.

Nonetheless, I got to work real HF radio communications
for three years in a 24/7 radio station...even living IN a two
square mile antenna field for a while. [many more antennas
there than overweight "scampering" Davie can possibly put up]

Well, grizzled old Sarge, I just put up a brand new, enormous triband
yagi all by my lonesome.

Wow! All by your LONESOME? Gee, Davie, you need to get out more.
It would keep you from being so lonesome...

You have some PROOF of this accomplishment, yes?

Where's PROOF of YOUR station, Lennie?

Since you can't TRANSMIT, we've been asking for a pic of your
"monitoring station"...None yet.

Maybe you got one of those "Monitoring Station Registrations" that
CRB Books advertizes in the back of CQ and Popular
Communications...?!?!

I've worked Dave on the air...At least WE know he HAS antennas
up...

I'll wager I've put up more antennas in the
past five years than you have in your lifetime.

I'm absolutely positive you have, dozens and dozens, hundreds and
hundreds of them, more than in several mens' lifetimes. Whatever
it is, YOU did MORE. You say so and that be that.

Seems Lennie has a problem with truth.

Wanna play some more "mine's bigger than yours"?

I don't "play" with antennas. On the big ones, I let the pros
do their jobs. They know how to erect them. I know how to
erect mine.

I'm willing to bet the only antenna YOU have ever "erected" was a
set of Rabbit Ears.

I got to work real military HF communications during a four-year Air
Force hitch and plenty of government HF communications during a State
Department career. I've used antennas like rhombics, 3-30 MHz inverted
discones, double boom Collins LPA's at 90 feet and I've used magnetic
loops, open wire-fed flattops with autotuners, fan dipoles and even
crummy B&W "broadband" folded dipole "resistors". I've operated
satellite terminals with 9 meter dish antennas and with little suitcase
sat terminals. I've installed an maintained several generations of
STU's and operated high speed leased lines.

All by yourself? Wow! You have PROOF of that, yes?

Gee, Lennie...Seems you ahve a bit of competition...

Well...No...I stand corrected...

You're no competition for anyone in THIS forum....

I'll bet you were Behind The Lines in 'Nam, sending valuable intel
back to Hq, right? A vital asset to the military! Hip hip hooray!

Sorry, Davie, I didn't do a lot of radio communications (all by
myself) after my military service. I went into DESIGN of radio-
electronics, making the equipment from scratch.

"All by yourself? Wow! You have PRROF of that, yes?"

Sorry Lennie...had to use it...It fit so appropriately!

My stint as a professional
in radio communications exceeded yours by several magnitudes.

Hundreds of magnitudes. Googles of them. Off the scale...

Now, what're you using for antennas for your lil R-70 vintage inhaler?

Why do you ask? Do you need HELP? Just ask.

Why?

You wouldn't begin to know how to get one up, Lennie.

BTW, my Icom receiver, purchased long ago, is NOT used in the wine
industry nor for private brewing. It has no olfactory sensing
inputs. It still works well as a 50 KHz to 30 MHz RADIO RECEIVER...
is within specification as of this March.

Obviously not.

You've not managed to log a single one of us so far!

Didya catch the part where he says he was ONLY a "####bird
PFC"...?!??!

Sheesh...even Lennie made E5...

Did you catch the part where Jim didn't serve?

Jimmie Miccolis never served.
Mikey Coslo never served.
Dee Flint never served.
Brain Kellie WAS served (by "drudges") at the captain's table!

You act as if status as a veteran is something which gives you
entitlement to be condescending to those who were never in the military.

Tsk. I must be subconsciously picking up YOUR attitude! Gotta
watch myself.

I found myself dealing with YOUR attitude this morning, Lennie.

But then I dropped it in the bowl and pushed the handle and it
went away.

No, your snarlingness, I don't feel "entitled" to condescension.
That's YOUR schtick. I DO feel absolutely ENTITLED to cuss out any
sumbish who wants to meanmouth whatever service I did for my country
especially so if they didn't serve.

The point here is that NO ONE has "mean mouthed" your "service",
Lennie.

And what I have "mean mouthed" was your attempts to use the
sacrifices of men who died three years BEFORE you were even IN the Army
to facilitate your sillinessx in here...

I don't take no snit from
pansies who were NEVER IN who want to "tell me like it is" IN the
military. YOU live with that, because that's how it goes down.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Now we have it...There's the "manhood" issue!
Lennie "served" (wore a uniform, an act he tries to deride ME about...)
ergo anyone else is "less a man"...

Every time I see such nonsense, it seems to be from a guy who served in
the rear someplace.

Tsk. Whose rear have you served lately?

You been spending time at Markie's house, Lennie? That sounds
like something he'd do......

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm
wrote:
From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:

If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned.

But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were
in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place?

Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true!

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

Obviously not.

He didn't get any of it right.

And his "agenda" was laid bare in the process.

Try again, Your Couch Potatoness.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

Obviously not.

He didn't get any of it right.

And his "agenda" was laid bare in the process.

Grand claims you make. Got any proof?

wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

wrote:

From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm

wrote:

From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm

K4YZ wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

Frank Gilliland wrote:

If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned.

But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were
in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place?

Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true!

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.


The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

....or so he claims.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

wrote:

From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm

wrote:

From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm

K4YZ wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

Frank Gilliland wrote:

If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned.

But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were
in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place?

Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true!

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.


The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

...or so he claims.

Dave K8MN

Steve got real quiet. It were almost as if someone, somewhere were
"dialing..."

From: on Fri 26 Aug 2005 06:22


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm
wrote:
From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:

If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned.

But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were
in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place?

Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true!

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

Tsk. The stealers of valor cry foul when their stealing is stolen.

Dudly has NO PROOF whatsoever of his "forward area" action. NONE.
Aircraft ground maintenance personnel are NOT in any "forward area."

If one is NOT in a "forward area," one is in the "rear area." Such
as an Okinawa MARS station where Dudly claimed to be "Assistant
NCOIC." [wow...lots of responsibility there...in a NON-commo role
if he was really there...MARS was never a part of the Defense
Communications System]

Dudly has never referred to any common small-unit land force radio
by nomenclature or familiar name. Neither has he done so for any
common avionics radio of the 1974-1992 period. That is unthinkable
for anyone who has really been IN the military involved in radio
communications of any kind. Ergo, Dudly NEVER DID what he claimed.

Dudly has presented NO PROOF of this claimed military service. He
has presented nothing but verbal generalities that can be gleaned
from publications or entertainment shows. Anyone truly proud to
have served will have some sort of documentation which can be
scanned and presented for proof. Dog tags can be scanned. Dudly
has offered NONE. Not even personal snapshots.

Dudly says all who challenge him on his military claims should "call
the VA [Veteran's Administration]." The VA will not reveal details
to non-familiy members and must have assurance that a requestor is
legitimate. The VA cannot reveal details due to a federal law that
is almost three decades old. The same is true for NARA, the
National Archives and Records Administration, which has a large
records archive in St. Louis, MO. NARA has a website which
contains the form required to request details...the filled-in form
can be e-mailed for personal data, but must be sent surface mail
for full disclosure.

The only logical conclusion is that Dudly's claims to military
service are a FRAUD, a fabrication, a LIE. In his case, a "rear
area" is what he has been giving us.

wrote:
From: on Fri 26 Aug 2005 06:22
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm
wrote:

If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned.

But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were
in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place?

Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true!

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

Tsk. The stealers of valor cry foul when their stealing is stolen.

Adding to the basis of "th[i]er" double-standard.

Dudly has NO PROOF whatsoever of his "forward area" action. NONE.
Aircraft ground maintenance personnel are NOT in any "forward area."

Actually, it just might be possible. I know of some rear area
personnel who were permitted to go on helo excursions so that they
would qualify for hazardous duty pay. Yet the douche bags had no
weapon, no TA50, and no sense. It was just a scam, and they should
have been reprimanded.

I beleive that Steve is up to such stunts.

If one is NOT in a "forward area," one is in the "rear area." Such
as an Okinawa MARS station where Dudly claimed to be "Assistant
NCOIC." [wow...lots of responsibility there...in a NON-commo role
if he was really there...MARS was never a part of the Defense
Communications System]

How could it have been??? "MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

Dudly has never referred to any common small-unit land force radio
by nomenclature or familiar name. Neither has he done so for any
common avionics radio of the 1974-1992 period. That is unthinkable
for anyone who has really been IN the military involved in radio
communications of any kind. Ergo, Dudly NEVER DID what he claimed.

Ergo, Dud UXO lied.

Dudly has presented NO PROOF of this claimed military service. He
has presented nothing but verbal generalities that can be gleaned
from publications or entertainment shows.

Such as a 1950's issue of "This is the Air Force?"

Anyone truly proud to
have served will have some sort of documentation which can be
scanned and presented for proof. Dog tags can be scanned. Dudly
has offered NONE. Not even personal snapshots.

He got sand in his eye.

Dudly says all who challenge him on his military claims should "call
the VA [Veteran's Administration]." The VA will not reveal details
to non-familiy members and must have assurance that a requestor is
legitimate. The VA cannot reveal details due to a federal law that
is almost three decades old. The same is true for NARA, the
National Archives and Records Administration, which has a large
records archive in St. Louis, MO. NARA has a website which
contains the form required to request details...the filled-in form
can be e-mailed for personal data, but must be sent surface mail
for full disclosure.

He hides behind his "Ask the VA" claims. Wonder where he hid during
the "seven hostile actions?"

The only logical conclusion is that Dudly's claims to military
service are a FRAUD, a fabrication, a LIE. In his case, a "rear
area" is what he has been giving us.

He fully understands that disclosure of his military records will
expose him as the fraud that he is. So he hides behind his claims that
the "VA" will somehow release his data, knowing full well that they
won't.

On 26 Aug 2005 11:58:57 -0700, "
wrote in
.com:

From: on Fri 26 Aug 2005 06:22


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm
wrote:
From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:

If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned.

But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were
in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place?

Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true!

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

Tsk. The stealers of valor cry foul when their stealing is stolen.

Dudly has NO PROOF whatsoever of his "forward area" action. NONE.
Aircraft ground maintenance personnel are NOT in any "forward area."

If one is NOT in a "forward area," one is in the "rear area." Such
as an Okinawa MARS station where Dudly claimed to be "Assistant
NCOIC." [wow...lots of responsibility there...in a NON-commo role
if he was really there...MARS was never a part of the Defense
Communications System]

Dudly has never referred to any common small-unit land force radio
by nomenclature or familiar name. Neither has he done so for any
common avionics radio of the 1974-1992 period. That is unthinkable
for anyone who has really been IN the military involved in radio
communications of any kind.


Not only that, but when presented with -partial- information he can't
even fill in the blanks; i.e, VINSON, discharge upgrades, etc.


Ergo, Dudly NEVER DID what he claimed.

Dudly has presented NO PROOF of this claimed military service. He
has presented nothing but verbal generalities that can be gleaned
from publications or entertainment shows. Anyone truly proud to
have served will have some sort of documentation which can be
scanned and presented for proof. Dog tags can be scanned.


http://www.icehouse.net/wirenut/dogtag.jpg


Dudly
has offered NONE. Not even personal snapshots.


Here's one that should be good for a laugh:

http://www.icehouse.net/wirenut/skivs.jpg


Dudly says all who challenge him on his military claims should "call
the VA [Veteran's Administration]." The VA will not reveal details
to non-familiy members and must have assurance that a requestor is
legitimate. The VA cannot reveal details due to a federal law that
is almost three decades old.


OVER three decades old: The Privacy Act of 1974.


The same is true for NARA, the
National Archives and Records Administration, which has a large
records archive in St. Louis, MO. NARA has a website which
contains the form required to request details...the filled-in form
can be e-mailed for personal data, but must be sent surface mail
for full disclosure.

The only logical conclusion is that Dudly's claims to military
service are a FRAUD, a fabrication, a LIE. In his case, a "rear
area" is what he has been giving us.


Well, any proof he offers now will need to be pretty damn convincing.









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From: Frank Gilliland on Sat 27 Aug 2005 19:44

On 26 Aug 2005 11:58:57 -0700, "
wrote in
s.com:
From: on Fri 26 Aug 2005 06:22

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm
wrote:
From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:

If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned.

But it is true, isn't it, that you were so far to the rear that you were
in a different country from where the Korean conflict was taking place?

Of course. If Jimmie say it true, it must be true!

Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

Tsk. The stealers of valor cry foul when their stealing is stolen.

Dudly has NO PROOF whatsoever of his "forward area" action. NONE.
Aircraft ground maintenance personnel are NOT in any "forward area."

If one is NOT in a "forward area," one is in the "rear area." Such
as an Okinawa MARS station where Dudly claimed to be "Assistant
NCOIC." [wow...lots of responsibility there...in a NON-commo role
if he was really there...MARS was never a part of the Defense
Communications System]

Dudly has never referred to any common small-unit land force radio
by nomenclature or familiar name. Neither has he done so for any
common avionics radio of the 1974-1992 period. That is unthinkable
for anyone who has really been IN the military involved in radio
communications of any kind.

Not only that, but when presented with -partial- information he can't
even fill in the blanks; i.e, VINSON, discharge upgrades, etc.

Frank, I gotta say I loved your question about "serving under
Colonel Vinson!" One of the gems of this newsgroup in my opinion!
:-)

Ergo, Dudly NEVER DID what he claimed.

Dudly has presented NO PROOF of this claimed military service. He
has presented nothing but verbal generalities that can be gleaned
from publications or entertainment shows. Anyone truly proud to
have served will have some sort of documentation which can be
scanned and presented for proof. Dog tags can be scanned.

http://www.icehouse.net/wirenut/dogtag.jpg

I downloaded your previous three images. Now I know what a
"bluenose" is! :-)

Please tell me what a "TT" is...it is unfamiliar to one who has
never been to the Middle East.


Dudly says all who challenge him on his military claims should "call
the VA [Veteran's Administration]." The VA will not reveal details
to non-familiy members and must have assurance that a requestor is
legitimate. The VA cannot reveal details due to a federal law that
is almost three decades old.

OVER three decades old: The Privacy Act of 1974.

Thank you, correction noted. I seem to recall an amendment or
addition to that in 1976...but that may be my confusion with
several pieces of legislation done in 1976 such as a major
revision of the Copyright Laws and the Code of Etiquette on
The Flag. :-(

The same is true for NARA, the
National Archives and Records Administration, which has a large
records archive in St. Louis, MO. NARA has a website which
contains the form required to request details...the filled-in form
can be e-mailed for personal data, but must be sent surface mail
for full disclosure.

The only logical conclusion is that Dudly's claims to military
service are a FRAUD, a fabrication, a LIE. In his case, a "rear
area" is what he has been giving us.

Well, any proof he offers now will need to be pretty damn convincing.

If Dudly actually has any "proof" now and it is convincing, he
is then stuck with years of his insulting and demeaning behavior
in here, all nicely archived in Google. He will be NO better off
"with proof."

As is, I call him a POSEUR, a FRAUD, a SNOW JOBBER who wants others
to believe him even though he hasn't got a shred of evidence to
present for his proof.