wrote:
From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm

K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:

Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my
Blue Nose card.

What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him?

The same kind of guy that I try to avoid being...the loud mouth at
the end of the bar telling everyone how he stormed the beaches...Laguna
Beach...Redondo Beach...Panama Beach...

You don't mind one bit bing the RRAP loudmouth. Always waving your
arms and claiming, "Liar, Liar Pants on Fiar!"

Tsk, tsk, tsk...Dudly kept talking about his "seven hostile actions"
and implying he was in the thick of them.

I've never bragged about being IN any hostile actions. If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned. Nonetheless, I got to work real HF radio communications
for three years in a 24/7 radio station...even living IN a two
square mile antenna field for a while. [many more antennas
there than overweight "scampering" Davie can possibly put up]

Just as they have not permitted you to comment about "amateur" radio
because you hold no license, NoServers may not comment about the
military.

I have no recollection of any "Panama Beach" in southern
California.

There is a Panama "City" Beach in Florida. There is even a military
base nearby where Steve may have been short sheeted seven times. All
very hostile actions for the mentally ill.

There's Santa Monica beach (municipal beach).
There's Hermosa Beach (a city) and Redondo Beach (also a city)
and Huntington Beach (a city). Used to frequent the "Lighthouse"
in Hermosa Beach for totally great jazz on weekends and reasonable
drink prices in the late 1950s, early 1960s; they got too popular
and raised prices plus adding a ticket-cover-charge.

The "loudmouth at the end of THIS bar" is Dudly and his "seven
hostile actions" and "MARS IS amateur radio!" blabbering.

Dud = UXO.

Didya catch the part where he says he was ONLY a "####bird
PFC"...?!??!

Sheesh...even Lennie made E5...

Did you catch the part where Jim didn't serve?

Jimmie Miccolis never served.
Mikey Coslo never served.
Dee Flint never served.
Brain Kellie WAS served (by "drudges") at the captain's table!

Not even Rear Echelon. Yikes!

The Four Morsemen of the Apocalypse are riding! Gallop. Gallop.

----
snipped denigration of one who served.

PCTA extras will invoke their Double Standard and denigrate some
more. Screum.



Sometimes these armchair types only have their double standard to fall
back on.

wrote:

Sometimes these armchair types only have their double standard to fall
back on.

You'd know best, Your Couch Potatoness.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Sometimes these armchair types only have their double standard to fall
back on.

You'd know best, Your Couch Potatoness.

Steve, K4YZ

You hide behind the Privacy Act. Spare us any more nonsense about your
claims of seven hostile actions. Never happened.

From: on Aug 26, 1:06 pm

wrote:
From: on Fri 26 Aug 2005 06:22
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm
wrote:
[i]
Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

Tsk. The stealers of valor cry foul when their stealing is stolen.

Adding to the basis of "ther" double-standard.

Notice that Dudly NEVER explains EXACTLY which "front" He was in.
His usual tactic is to immediately denigrate his accuser in an
attempt to avoid a direct answer.

I arrived in Japan in February 1953. Combat action in Korea was
in a minimal state due to on-going talks about a cease-fire/truce.
In July 1953 that Truce state was entered and has remained so for
52 years! On the other hand, the USSR had aircraft bases in
Manchuria, the biggest being a cluster in Kamchatka. Those were
within range of Honshu Island, Japan (Tokyo is in the middle).
It doesn't matter on aircraft type numbers that the USSR had, the
point was that there were USSR aircraft that could reach Tokyo
from land bases. Jimmie Noserve picked out my one error in USSR
bomber types of 1953 and tried to imply that I was "in error" in
all my postings.

Compare that to Dudly. Dudly has NEVER specified the Where or
When of HIS "seven hostile actions." Probably because he was
never IN them. He could have been in the military at that time
but then he would be in the non-heroic position of being in a
rear area.

Dudly has NO PROOF whatsoever of his "forward area" action. NONE.
Aircraft ground maintenance personnel are NOT in any "forward area."

Actually, it just might be possible. I know of some rear area
personnel who were permitted to go on helo excursions so that they
would qualify for hazardous duty pay. Yet the douche bags had no
weapon, no TA50, and no sense. It was just a scam, and they should
have been reprimanded.

I beleive that Steve is up to such stunts.

I have no opinion on that.

If one is NOT in a "forward area," one is in the "rear area." Such
as an Okinawa MARS station where Dudly claimed to be "Assistant
NCOIC." [wow...lots of responsibility there...in a NON-commo role
if he was really there...MARS was never a part of the Defense
Communications System]

How could it have been??? "MARS IS Amateur Radio!"

The Defense Communications System (and whatever names it was changed
to) was NEVER any amateur effort. It has always been run by
professionals. MARS served as a sort-of auxilliary that MIGHT be
an asset "if all else failed" but all else did NOT fail. MARS was
valuable for troop morale in Vietnam in the first half of the 1970s.
The U.S. Army acknowledged that and it is written up on the website
of the Army Center for Military History. But, that was over 30
years ago and before Dudly's claimed time in service.

Dudly has never referred to any common small-unit land force radio
by nomenclature or familiar name. Neither has he done so for any
common avionics radio of the 1974-1992 period. That is unthinkable
for anyone who has really been IN the military involved in radio
communications of any kind. Ergo, Dudly NEVER DID what he claimed.

Ergo, Dud UXO lied.

An 18-year period of enlistment is quite long in an average human's
lifespan. To have NO record, no memento, not even a snapshot or a
name of a "buddy" to use as a reference in all that time is so
strange
that it is unthinkable. Ergo, what Dudly claimed was a LIE.

Dudly has presented NO PROOF of this claimed military service. He
has presented nothing but verbal generalities that can be gleaned
from publications or entertainment shows.

Such as a 1950's issue of "This is the Air Force?"

Not if Dudly was in the USMC or USN. :-)

Anyone truly proud to
have served will have some sort of documentation which can be
scanned and presented for proof. Dog tags can be scanned. Dudly
has offered NONE. Not even personal snapshots.

He got sand in his eye.

For 18 years, yes. It's a wonder he can see anything at all now...

Dudly says all who challenge him on his military claims should "call
the VA [Veteran's Administration]." The VA will not reveal details
to non-familiy members and must have assurance that a requestor is
legitimate. The VA cannot reveal details due to a federal law that
is almost three decades old. The same is true for NARA, the
National Archives and Records Administration, which has a large
records archive in St. Louis, MO. NARA has a website which
contains the form required to request details...the filled-in form
can be e-mailed for personal data, but must be sent surface mail
for full disclosure.

He hides behind his "Ask the VA" claims. Wonder where he hid during
the "seven hostile actions?"

I'm tempted to reply "in a bud's rear-area" but that would be in
bad taste so I won't reply that...

The only logical conclusion is that Dudly's claims to military
service are a FRAUD, a fabrication, a LIE. In his case, a "rear
area" is what he has been giving us.

He fully understands that disclosure of his military records will
expose him as the fraud that he is. So he hides behind his claims that
the "VA" will somehow release his data, knowing full well that they
won't.

There we have it. A big NOTHING from Dudly, no proof, no documents,
not even snapshots, and all he can do is generate vague generalities
and implications of where and what he has done. His "descriptions"
don't have a ring of personal experience to them. He is a con man,
a fraud, an imposter, and like all of those, tries to smokescreen
direct answers to challenges with personal insults against those
same
challengers. He gives the appearance of answering yet never
answered
anything at all. Typical con man syndrome.

wrote:[i]
From: on Aug 26, 1:06 pm


wrote:

From: on Fri 26 Aug 2005 06:22

K4YZ wrote:

wrote:

From: Dave Heil on Aug 25, 7:12 pm

wrote:


Japan was not DIRECTLY involved in the Korean WAR, true. The
Occupation was over when I was assigned there. Was I supposed
to break rules, go against the UCMJ, to go to the "front?"

The point being that you never served in a forward area, let alone
a combat area. Matter of fact, the only thing "forward" about you is
bad manners and a propensity to deceive.

The point is that a low-ranking Marine knew enough to call you out on
your military service lies.

Tsk. The stealers of valor cry foul when their stealing is stolen.

Adding to the basis of "ther" double-standard.


Notice that Dudly NEVER explains EXACTLY which "front" He was in.
His usual tactic is to immediately denigrate his accuser in an
attempt to avoid a direct answer.

I arrived in Japan in February 1953. Combat action in Korea was
in a minimal state due to on-going talks about a cease-fire/truce.
In July 1953 that Truce state was entered and has remained so for
52 years! On the other hand, the USSR had aircraft bases in
Manchuria, the biggest being a cluster in Kamchatka. Those were
within range of Honshu Island, Japan (Tokyo is in the middle).
It doesn't matter on aircraft type numbers that the USSR had, the
point was that there were USSR aircraft that could reach Tokyo
from land bases. Jimmie Noserve picked out my one error in USSR
bomber types of 1953 and tried to imply that I was "in error" in
all my postings.

Compare that to Dudly. Dudly has NEVER specified the Where or
When of HIS "seven hostile actions." Probably because he was
never IN them. He could have been in the military at that time
but then he would be in the non-heroic position of being in a
rear area.


Dudly has NO PROOF whatsoever of his "forward area" action. NONE.
Aircraft ground maintenance personnel are NOT in any "forward area."

Actually, it just might be possible. I know of some rear area
personnel who were permitted to go on helo excursions so that they
would qualify for hazardous duty pay. Yet the douche bags had no
weapon, no TA50, and no sense. It was just a scam, and they should
have been reprimanded.

I beleive that Steve is up to such stunts.


I have no opinion on that.


If one is NOT in a "forward area," one is in the "rear area." Such
as an Okinawa MARS station where Dudly claimed to be "Assistant
NCOIC." [wow...lots of responsibility there...in a NON-commo role
if he was really there...MARS was never a part of the Defense
Communications System]

How could it have been??? "MARS IS Amateur Radio!"


The Defense Communications System (and whatever names it was changed
to) was NEVER any amateur effort. It has always been run by
professionals. MARS served as a sort-of auxilliary that MIGHT be
an asset "if all else failed" but all else did NOT fail. MARS was
valuable for troop morale in Vietnam in the first half of the 1970s.
The U.S. Army acknowledged that and it is written up on the website
of the Army Center for Military History. But, that was over 30
years ago and before Dudly's claimed time in service.


Dudly has never referred to any common small-unit land force radio
by nomenclature or familiar name. Neither has he done so for any
common avionics radio of the 1974-1992 period. That is unthinkable
for anyone who has really been IN the military involved in radio
communications of any kind. Ergo, Dudly NEVER DID what he claimed.

Ergo, Dud UXO lied.


An 18-year period of enlistment is quite long in an average human's
lifespan. To have NO record, no memento, not even a snapshot or a
name of a "buddy" to use as a reference in all that time is so
strange
that it is unthinkable. Ergo, what Dudly claimed was a LIE.


Dudly has presented NO PROOF of this claimed military service. He
has presented nothing but verbal generalities that can be gleaned
from publications or entertainment shows.

Such as a 1950's issue of "This is the Air Force?"


Not if Dudly was in the USMC or USN. :-)


Anyone truly proud to
have served will have some sort of documentation which can be
scanned and presented for proof. Dog tags can be scanned. Dudly
has offered NONE. Not even personal snapshots.

He got sand in his eye.


For 18 years, yes. It's a wonder he can see anything at all now...


Dudly says all who challenge him on his military claims should "call
the VA [Veteran's Administration]." The VA will not reveal details
to non-familiy members and must have assurance that a requestor is
legitimate. The VA cannot reveal details due to a federal law that
is almost three decades old. The same is true for NARA, the
National Archives and Records Administration, which has a large
records archive in St. Louis, MO. NARA has a website which
contains the form required to request details...the filled-in form
can be e-mailed for personal data, but must be sent surface mail
for full disclosure.

He hides behind his "Ask the VA" claims. Wonder where he hid during
the "seven hostile actions?"


I'm tempted to reply "in a bud's rear-area" but that would be in
bad taste so I won't reply that...


The only logical conclusion is that Dudly's claims to military
service are a FRAUD, a fabrication, a LIE. In his case, a "rear
area" is what he has been giving us.

He fully understands that disclosure of his military records will
expose him as the fraud that he is. So he hides behind his claims that
the "VA" will somehow release his data, knowing full well that they
won't.


There we have it. A big NOTHING from Dudly, no proof, no documents,
not even snapshots, and all he can do is generate vague generalities
and implications of where and what he has done. His "descriptions"
don't have a ring of personal experience to them. He is a con man,
a fraud, an imposter, and like all of those, tries to smokescreen
direct answers to challenges with personal insults against those
same
challengers. He gives the appearance of answering yet never
answered
anything at all. Typical con man syndrome.



According to your recent directive, aren't you supposed to be addressing
amateur radio policy issues?

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:

According to your recent directive, aren't you supposed to be addressing
amateur radio policy issues?

Dave K8MN

Steven J. Robeson/KY4Z (aka K4YZ) sees himself as an instrument of
Amateur Radio Policy. Len is addressing said instrument.

wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Sometimes these armchair types only have their double standard to fall
back on.

You'd know best, Your Couch Potatoness.

Steve, K4YZ

You hide behind the Privacy Act. Spare us any more nonsense about your
claims of seven hostile actions. Never happened.

Nope. Not "claims". Sure did.

Steve, K4YZ

wrote:
wrote:

From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm


K4YZ wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

Frank Gilliland wrote:

Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my
Blue Nose card.

What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him?

The same kind of guy that I try to avoid being...the loud mouth at
the end of the bar telling everyone how he stormed the beaches...Laguna
Beach...Redondo Beach...Panama Beach...

You don't mind one bit bing the RRAP loudmouth. Always waving your
arms and claiming, "Liar, Liar Pants on Fiar!"

Tsk, tsk, tsk...Dudly kept talking about his "seven hostile actions"
and implying he was in the thick of them.

I've never bragged about being IN any hostile actions. If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned. Nonetheless, I got to work real HF radio communications
for three years in a 24/7 radio station...even living IN a two
square mile antenna field for a while. [many more antennas
there than overweight "scampering" Davie can possibly put up]


Just as they have not permitted you to comment about "amateur" radio
because you hold no license, NoServers may not comment about the
military.

Hold on, Sparky. Len has commented here at great length and on many,
many occasions. Now then, Len has been vocal in his attempts to change
regulations in an endeavor in which he is not a participant. Has anyone
here, who has never served in the military, attempted to change
military regulations?

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm


K4YZ wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

Frank Gilliland wrote:

Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my
Blue Nose card.

What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him?

The same kind of guy that I try to avoid being...the loud mouth at
the end of the bar telling everyone how he stormed the beaches...Laguna
Beach...Redondo Beach...Panama Beach...

You don't mind one bit bing the RRAP loudmouth. Always waving your
arms and claiming, "Liar, Liar Pants on Fiar!"

Tsk, tsk, tsk...Dudly kept talking about his "seven hostile actions"
and implying he was in the thick of them.

I've never bragged about being IN any hostile actions. If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned. Nonetheless, I got to work real HF radio communications
for three years in a 24/7 radio station...even living IN a two
square mile antenna field for a while. [many more antennas
there than overweight "scampering" Davie can possibly put up]

Just as they have not permitted you to comment about "amateur" radio
because you hold no license, NoServers may not comment about the
military.

Hold on, Sparky. Len has commented here at great length and on many,
many occasions.

And what has Jim's response been to Len's comments?

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

wrote:


From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm



K4YZ wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:


Frank Gilliland wrote:

Hey, that's a neat idea! I gotta do that, keep it right next to my
Blue Nose card.

What kind of guy carries a copy of his DD-214 around with him?

The same kind of guy that I try to avoid being...the loud mouth at
the end of the bar telling everyone how he stormed the beaches...Laguna
Beach...Redondo Beach...Panama Beach...

You don't mind one bit bing the RRAP loudmouth. Always waving your
arms and claiming, "Liar, Liar Pants on Fiar!"

Tsk, tsk, tsk...Dudly kept talking about his "seven hostile actions"
and implying he was in the thick of them.

I've never bragged about being IN any hostile actions. If fact,
Jimmie Noserve took me to task about being a "rear-area" type.
I guess all those books he read (to become an expert on warfare)
didn't tell him that NOBODY got to "choose" where they were
assigned. Nonetheless, I got to work real HF radio communications
for three years in a 24/7 radio station...even living IN a two
square mile antenna field for a while. [many more antennas
there than overweight "scampering" Davie can possibly put up]

Just as they have not permitted you to comment about "amateur" radio
because you hold no license, NoServers may not comment about the
military.

Hold on, Sparky. Len has commented here at great length and on many,
many occasions.


And what has Jim's response been to Len's comments?

It has been quite varied and quite mild considering Len's typical
insulting demeanor. What Jim hasn't done is to prevent or attempt to
prevent Len from making those comments.

Dave K8MN