Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:02:23 GMT, Dave Heil ,
AMATEUR radio operator and defender of liars and identity thieves,
wrote in t:

snip

Steve acts as if status as a lower-ranking Marine is something to be
denigrated.

Do you think being repeatedly busted to a lower rank is something to be
proud of?


Like Billy Mitchell?

No, like Frank "Not-a-model-Marine" Gilliland.



Well, I'll tell ya, Dave -- I have absolutely no regrets about
anything I did in the Marines, not even the actions that resulted in
my loss of rank.

Okay. Maybe you're a slow learner or perhaps you just have no sense of
remorse. You told us that you weren't a model Marine.

But there's one big difference between me and Dudly
that you can't seem to comprehend: I'm telling the truth. And that's
something I am most definitely proud to admit.

So, the truth is, according to you, that Steve isn't a Marine or that
he's lying. That's an assumption made by you and you've offered no
proof, just accusations.

Now what I don't understand is why you are so passionate about Dudly
when this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with you. Is he your
butt-buddy? Or are you afraid that you are next in line to be exposed
as a military imposter? Why is his business -your- business, Dave?

I challenge you to expose me as a "military imposter", Frank. Make it
your life's work. As far as your last comment: read up on how usenet
works. After all, how did Steve's business become *your business*?

Dave K8MN

Dave remarked, "You told us that you weren't a model Marine."

My son saved some "GI Joe Action Figures", while not exactly a "model
marine", you can pose them realistically and stage pseudo-military
scenarios which might be more entertaining than you find here... I'd loan
ya a couple if you get bored...

John

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:23:00 +0000, Dave Heil wrote:

You told us that you weren't a model Marine.

Dave Heil wrote:
Frank of Silliland wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:02:23 GMT, Dave Heil ,
AMATEUR radio operator and defender of liars and identity thieves,
wrote in t:

snip

Steve acts as if status as a lower-ranking Marine is something to be
denigrated.

Do you think being repeatedly busted to a lower rank is something to be
proud of?


Like Billy Mitchell?

No, like Frank "Not-a-model-Marine" Gilliland.

Well, I'll tell ya, Dave -- I have absolutely no regrets about
anything I did in the Marines, not even the actions that resulted in
my loss of rank.

Okay. Maybe you're a slow learner or perhaps you just have no sense of
remorse. You told us that you weren't a model Marine.

By a far stretch.

He was in an expensive technical MOS (Ground Radar Repair).
You've got to go out of your way to get the USMC to send you home as a
PFC with 3 1/2 years of service..."####bird" was an understatement on
Frankie's part.

The rank of PFC and the less-than-four year tour lends one to
believe that the reason he didn't publish the other 3/4ths of his -214
was that somewhere on that form it said "LESS THAN HONORABLE", or one
of those categories of discharge.

But there's one big difference between me and Dudly
that you can't seem to comprehend: I'm telling the truth. And that's
something I am most definitely proud to admit.

So, the truth is, according to you, that Steve isn't a Marine or that
he's lying. That's an assumption made by you and you've offered no
proof, just accusations.

And O N L Y accusations, Dave.

They claim I am "hiding behind the Privacy Act", but I have
offered them more than adequate PUBLIC resources to validate my
service.

This ludicrous spin about how I am one Steven Robeson claiming the
service of another is assinine.

Now what I don't understand is why you are so passionate about Dudly
when this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with you. Is he your
butt-buddy? Or are you afraid that you are next in line to be exposed
as a military imposter? Why is his business -your- business, Dave?

I challenge you to expose me as a "military imposter", Frank. Make it
your life's work. As far as your last comment: read up on how usenet
works. After all, how did Steve's business become *your business*?

Frankie will do nothing of the kind, Dave.

He was given adequate resources to validate my service...MORE than
adequate if we were to take his not-so-subtle suggestions of having
resources that "you don't even know about" at his disposal. Yet he
claims that he's "most definitely proud to admit" how truthful he is.

He's all three of the "oser's" Hoser Poser Loser

Frankie's done himslef in, Dave, just like Lennie, Markie, Toiddie
and Brain have done in turn...

The Feeble Five.

73

Steve, K4YZ

On 27 Aug 2005 07:19:01 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

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This ludicrous spin about how I am one Steven Robeson claiming the
service of another is assinine.


I see you finally calmed down long enough to comprehend the issue. And
it's far from assinine. With the advent of the internet it's a simple
matter to look up your own name on a database, and it's much easier to
steal the identity of someone with the same name than someone with a
different name. Doing that I could impersonate any number of people.
It would even be simpler than that if my father had the same name and
didn't hang around the newsgroups to see what I was doing.

And BTW, notice the title of box 11: ".... years and months in
specialty...." IOW, that time doesn't include boot camp or the three
months I had to wait at 29 Palms for an opening in the BE course
(during which I worked as an assistant for the supply officer working
on the TICKET computer system -- an educational mainframe system that
was under development).

You may now resume your tirade.





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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:29:52 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote in
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And BTW, notice the title of box 11: ".... years and months in
specialty...." IOW, that time doesn't include boot camp or the three
months I had to wait at 29 Palms for an opening in the BE course
(during which I worked as an assistant for the supply officer working
on the TICKET computer system -- an educational mainframe system that
was under development).


Come to think of it, if you had several different specialties (as you
claim) then you would have have a LIST in box 11 of -your- DD-214; and
you would have also known that those times listed were for time served
in the MOS indicated.

You bungled again, Dudly.






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K4YZ wrote:

The rank of PFC and the less-than-four year tour lends one to
believe that the reason he didn't publish the other 3/4ths of his -214
was that somewhere on that form it said "LESS THAN HONORABLE", or one
of those categories of discharge.

And your DD-214?

On 27 Aug 2005 16:01:13 -0700, wrote in
.com:


K4YZ wrote:

The rank of PFC and the less-than-four year tour lends one to
believe that the reason he didn't publish the other 3/4ths of his -214
was that somewhere on that form it said "LESS THAN HONORABLE", or one
of those categories of discharge.

And your DD-214?


That is something you will never see.







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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 27 Aug 2005 16:01:13 -0700, wrote in
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K4YZ wrote:

The rank of PFC and the less-than-four year tour lends one to
believe that the reason he didn't publish the other 3/4ths of his -214
was that somewhere on that form it said "LESS THAN HONORABLE", or one
of those categories of discharge.

And your DD-214?


That is something you will never see.

Just in case I do, I want to be prepared. Wonder what the code is for
a section 8 discharge?

On 28 Aug 2005 07:58:28 -0700, wrote in
. com:


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 27 Aug 2005 16:01:13 -0700, wrote in
.com:


K4YZ wrote:

The rank of PFC and the less-than-four year tour lends one to
believe that the reason he didn't publish the other 3/4ths of his -214
was that somewhere on that form it said "LESS THAN HONORABLE", or one
of those categories of discharge.

And your DD-214?


That is something you will never see.

Just in case I do, I want to be prepared. Wonder what the code is for
a section 8 discharge?


Everyone I knew that got a medical discharge was RE-4.








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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:23:00 GMT, Dave Heil wrote
in et:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:02:23 GMT, Dave Heil ,
AMATEUR radio operator and defender of liars and identity thieves,
wrote in t:

snip

Steve acts as if status as a lower-ranking Marine is something to be
denigrated.

Do you think being repeatedly busted to a lower rank is something to be
proud of?


Like Billy Mitchell?

No, like Frank "Not-a-model-Marine" Gilliland.



Well, I'll tell ya, Dave -- I have absolutely no regrets about
anything I did in the Marines, not even the actions that resulted in
my loss of rank.

Okay. Maybe you're a slow learner or perhaps you just have no sense of
remorse. You told us that you weren't a model Marine.


Feel free to speculate all you want about my service.


But there's one big difference between me and Dudly
that you can't seem to comprehend: I'm telling the truth. And that's
something I am most definitely proud to admit.

So, the truth is, according to you, that Steve isn't a Marine or that
he's lying. That's an assumption made by you and you've offered no
proof, just accusations.


You haven't been paying attention, Dave. I tossed out several tidbits
of info that he would know if his claim was true, but he tripped up
and proved that he knew -nothing- of what I was talking about.


Now what I don't understand is why you are so passionate about Dudly
when this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with you. Is he your
butt-buddy? Or are you afraid that you are next in line to be exposed
as a military imposter? Why is his business -your- business, Dave?

I challenge you to expose me as a "military imposter", Frank. Make it
your life's work. As far as your last comment: read up on how usenet
works. After all, how did Steve's business become *your business*?


I see you missed that part, too. I was in here on a totally different
issue when someone mentioned that Dudly was a Marine. So I asked him
when he served and what units he was with -- a really simple question.
Heck, it's not like I was asking him his SSN or something. But that's
the way he acted. Up went the red flag. Ever since then he's been
tripping over his tongue and frothing like a rabid dog.

Now that I have answered -your- question, just why are you defending
him with such passion?







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