From: on Sep 1, 3:37 am

Dave Heil wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:
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From: Dave Heil on Aug 28, 9:04 am
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Dave Heil wrote:
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From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm
K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:

It has been quite varied and quite mild considering Len's typical
insulting demeanor. What Jim hasn't done is to prevent or attempt to
prevent Len from making those comments.

The PCTA, including Jim Miccolis/N2EY, immediately set upon
discrediting Len's comments and opinions.

Correct. Questioning or discrediting is not what you claimed. What you
said was that Len wasn't permitted to comment. You were incorrect.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...Heil sails the river denial again.

Denial, old bean? The words were there for everyone to read. Brian
claimed one thing and then rapidly backpedals to another position.

No back-pedalling, old has bean. Don't forget who was discussing
moderating and closing the newsgroup to non-hams and for what purpose.

You seem to have lost track of your own posted writings, Brian.

You seem to love playing stupid.

...and you, apparently, are not playing at it. You charged that Jim
prevented Len Anderson from commenting. There's no truth in your claim.

There's truth that the four morsemen have tried through intimidation,
personal attacks, and talk of moderating the group and excluding
non-amateurs.

By all appearances, the "Four Morsemen of the Apocalypse" want to
exclude all but PCTAs in this newsgroup.

They do so with charges of "stupidity" and "errors" and some
uncivil remarks including labels of "piranha" and "Foghorn Lenhorn"
and "little electrolytic acolyte" and other endearing terms. Then
they get upset by others calling them names. The PCTA extra Double
Standard is always invoked in their postings.

Case in point is James Miccolis constant statement of "that's
just plain wrong" in regards to others' opinions...as if he were
the sole judge of what is right and wrong. Then there is his
(macro) paragraph of denunciation of my postings with uncivil
terms in it, repeated and repeated on his whim.

By the way, tell us who was discussing moderating and closing the
newsgroup to non-hams and for what purpose.

Do your own homework.

My homework? You made mention of something but you don't care to be
specific. The matter remains unsubstantiated by you.

best of luck.

Heil forgets that I've openly SUGGESTED to the PCTA to get their own
MODERATED newsgroup. That way they can be assured of proper Group
Think and not be bothered by opposing opinions from non-PCTA folk.

This newsgroup is UNmoderated and that is how most feel it should
be.

But...Heil is easily upset and so he must VENT in here. Lacking
valid arguments on SUBJECTS he attempts personal attack by constant
reference to non-licensed amateurs' postings as if those were "not
allowed." Heil acts the bigot on newsgroup participation.

Heil (who claims to be a linguist of Hunnish) forgot, in another
post, that the fictious name of "Dudley" was used by author Earnest
K. Gann in his book, "Fate Is The Hunter." [my mention in here]
Frank Gilliland and I used another fictitious name of "Dudly" in
reference to another, a military pretender in here. There was no
misspelling of "Dudley" at all, just the use of "Dudly" to
differentiate from Gann's original name use. A shortened form of
"Dudly" is "Dud" which also fits that other, the pretender.

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From: on Sep 1, 3:37 am


Dave Heil wrote:

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Dave Heil wrote:

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Dave Heil wrote:

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From: Dave Heil on Aug 28, 9:04 am

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Dave Heil wrote:

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Dave Heil wrote:

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From: on Aug 25, 2:42 pm

K4YZ wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

Frank Gilliland wrote:


It has been quite varied and quite mild considering Len's typical
insulting demeanor. What Jim hasn't done is to prevent or attempt to
prevent Len from making those comments.

The PCTA, including Jim Miccolis/N2EY, immediately set upon
discrediting Len's comments and opinions.

Correct. Questioning or discrediting is not what you claimed. What you
said was that Len wasn't permitted to comment. You were incorrect.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...Heil sails the river denial again.

Denial, old bean? The words were there for everyone to read. Brian
claimed one thing and then rapidly backpedals to another position.

No back-pedalling, old has bean. Don't forget who was discussing
moderating and closing the newsgroup to non-hams and for what purpose.

You seem to have lost track of your own posted writings, Brian.

You seem to love playing stupid.

...and you, apparently, are not playing at it. You charged that Jim
prevented Len Anderson from commenting. There's no truth in your claim.

There's truth that the four morsemen have tried through intimidation,
personal attacks, and talk of moderating the group and excluding
non-amateurs.


By all appearances, the "Four Morsemen of the Apocalypse" want to
exclude all but PCTAs in this newsgroup.

There's one of your deliberate misstatements, Leonard.

They do so with charges of "stupidity" and "errors" and some
uncivil remarks including labels of "piranha" and "Foghorn Lenhorn"
and "little electrolytic acolyte" and other endearing terms.

Len, you've invented more rude names for folks than any person here.
You started out as windy, insulting, condescending and pontificating.
It went downhill from there. Poor baby. Tsk, tsk. :-) :-)

Then
they get upset by others calling them names. The PCTA extra Double
Standard is always invoked in their postings.

....and there's one of your factual errors.

Case in point is James Miccolis constant statement of "that's
just plain wrong" in regards to others' opinions...as if he were
the sole judge of what is right and wrong.

You know, Leonard, it's funny that when Jim uses that phrase, you almost
always turn out to be just plain wrong.


Then there is his
(macro) paragraph of denunciation of my postings with uncivil
terms in it, repeated and repeated on his whim.

I don't see that profile of your likely actions to be a denunciation at
all. It reads like an accurate summary of your actions. All anyone has
to do is look at N2EY's profile and compare it with archives of your
past posts. Any reader can make a judgement as to whether the profile
is accurate or inaccurate.


By the way, tell us who was discussing moderating and closing the
newsgroup to non-hams and for what purpose.

Do your own homework.

My homework? You made mention of something but you don't care to be
specific. The matter remains unsubstantiated by you.

best of luck.


Heil forgets that I've openly SUGGESTED to the PCTA to get their own
MODERATED newsgroup.

I haven't forgotten. Brian Burke may have though. He seems to think it
was some sort of PCTA plot.

That way they can be assured of proper Group
Think and not be bothered by opposing opinions from non-PCTA folk.

Do you really think that any self-respecting radio amateur would let a
non-ham tell us to go away from a newsgroup dealing with amateur radio?
You've probably gathered that it won't happen.

This newsgroup is UNmoderated and that is how most feel it should
be.

No kidding? Really?

But...Heil is easily upset and so he must VENT in here.

What accounts for non-radio amateur Anderson's VENTING in here? You've
haunted an amateur radio newsgroup for close to a decade. You weren't a
radio amateur back then and you aren't a radio amateur now. I'll bet
you've retold your fascinating tale of BIG TIME HF work at ADA over
fifty times. It is a story having nothing to do with amateur radio and
everything to do with Len Anderson's desire to be recognized as
somebody. Well, you're certainly recognized, Len.

Lacking
valid arguments on SUBJECTS he attempts personal attack by constant
reference to non-licensed amateurs' postings as if those were "not
allowed." Heil acts the bigot on newsgroup participation.

I've never ever said anything about your postings not being allowed. I
have stated that I don't give them any credence and I've suggested that
others might want to discount the rantings of an old gent with no
experience in amateur radio. You've gone way, way beyond that. You
have, in comments to the FCC, said that they should disregard the
comments of several radio amateurs. You're pathetic.

Heil (who claims to be a linguist of Hunnish) forgot, in another
post, that the fictious name of "Dudley" was used by author Earnest
K. Gann in his book, "Fate Is The Hunter." [my mention in here]
Frank Gilliland and I used another fictitious name of "Dudly" in
reference to another, a military pretender in here. There was no
misspelling of "Dudley" at all, just the use of "Dudly" to
differentiate from Gann's original name use. A shortened form of
"Dudly" is "Dud" which also fits that other, the pretender.

I see. It must be like your use of "Atila" to differentiate between the
real "Attila" and your use of "beligerent" to differentiate between real
warlike "belligerants". The name "Dudley" is an actual name. The name
"Dudly" doesn't exist. Very UNPROFESSIONAL, Leonard; very UNPROFESSIONAL.

You can tell the Mrs. that those dratted hams aren't giving you any
respect again.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Sep 1, 3:37 am

There's truth that the four morsemen have tried through intimidation,
personal attacks, and talk of moderating the group and excluding
non-amateurs.

By all appearances, the "Four Morsemen of the Apocalypse" want to
exclude all but PCTAs in this newsgroup.

There's one of your deliberate misstatements, Leonard.

That's merely your wrong opinion. I happen to agree with Len.

They do so with charges of "stupidity" and "errors" and some
uncivil remarks including labels of "piranha" and "Foghorn Lenhorn"
and "little electrolytic acolyte" and other endearing terms.

Len, you've invented more rude names for folks than any person here.
You started out as windy, insulting, condescending and pontificating.
It went downhill from there. Poor baby. Tsk, tsk. :-) :-)

David, you've started out as you've ended up. Smug.

Then
they get upset by others calling them names. The PCTA extra Double
Standard is always invoked in their postings.

...and there's one of your factual errors.

Case in point is James Miccolis constant statement of "that's
just plain wrong" in regards to others' opinions...as if he were
the sole judge of what is right and wrong.

You know, Leonard, it's funny that when Jim uses that phrase, you almost
always turn out to be just plain wrong.

Len has never worked out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. As far as I
know, only you hold that distinction and title.

Then there is his
(macro) paragraph of denunciation of my postings with uncivil
terms in it, repeated and repeated on his whim.

I don't see that profile of your likely actions to be a denunciation at
all. It reads like an accurate summary of your actions. All anyone has
to do is look at N2EY's profile and compare it with archives of your
past posts. Any reader can make a judgement as to whether the profile
is accurate or inaccurate.

Yours is smug.

By the way, tell us who was discussing moderating and closing the
newsgroup to non-hams and for what purpose.

Do your own homework.

My homework? You made mention of something but you don't care to be
specific. The matter remains unsubstantiated by you.

best of luck.

Heil forgets that I've openly SUGGESTED to the PCTA to get their own
MODERATED newsgroup.

I haven't forgotten. Brian Burke may have though. He seems to think it
was some sort of PCTA plot.

Then I stand corrected on that single point. However, Jim, Kelly,
RE-4YZ, and you repeatedly post that Len is not an amateur. The
purpose is to discredit Len's opinions, without considering his
opinions on their own merit. Luckily, we have a government body that
is not bound by such absurdity.

That way they can be assured of proper Group
Think and not be bothered by opposing opinions from non-PCTA folk.

Do you really think that any self-respecting radio amateur would let a
non-ham tell us to go away from a newsgroup dealing with amateur radio?
You've probably gathered that it won't happen.

Eternal hope shines brightly.

This newsgroup is UNmoderated and that is how most feel it should
be.

No kidding? Really?

Really, and without kidding.

But...Heil is easily upset and so he must VENT in here.

What accounts for non-radio amateur Anderson's VENTING in here? You've
haunted an amateur radio newsgroup for close to a decade. You weren't a
radio amateur back then and you aren't a radio amateur now.

Hmmmm? Why would Heil make such a statement?

I'll bet
you've retold your fascinating tale of BIG TIME HF work at ADA over
fifty times. It is a story having nothing to do with amateur radio and
everything to do with Len Anderson's desire to be recognized as
somebody. Well, you're certainly recognized, Len.

I especially like Jim's recounting amateur radio's contributions during
WWII when there was no legal amateur radio operations in the USA. He
cracks me up.

Lacking
valid arguments on SUBJECTS he attempts personal attack by constant
reference to non-licensed amateurs' postings as if those were "not
allowed." Heil acts the bigot on newsgroup participation.

I've never ever said anything about your postings not being allowed. I
have stated that I don't give them any credence and I've suggested that
others might want to discount the rantings of an old gent with no
experience in amateur radio. You've gone way, way beyond that. You
have, in comments to the FCC, said that they should disregard the
comments of several radio amateurs. You're pathetic.

Hmmm? You can ask folks to ignore Len, but Len cannot?

Heil (who claims to be a linguist of Hunnish) forgot, in another
post, that the fictious name of "Dudley" was used by author Earnest
K. Gann in his book, "Fate Is The Hunter." [my mention in here]
Frank Gilliland and I used another fictitious name of "Dudly" in
reference to another, a military pretender in here. There was no
misspelling of "Dudley" at all, just the use of "Dudly" to
differentiate from Gann's original name use. A shortened form of
"Dudly" is "Dud" which also fits that other, the pretender.

I see. It must be like your use of "Atila" to differentiate between the
real "Attila" and your use of "beligerent" to differentiate between real
warlike "belligerants". The name "Dudley" is an actual name. The name
"Dudly" doesn't exist. Very UNPROFESSIONAL, Leonard; very UNPROFESSIONAL.

It's less unprofessional than working out of band Frenchmen on 6
meters, IMHO.

You can tell the Mrs. that those dratted hams aren't giving you any
respect again.

Dave K8MN

One ham isn't. Never has. Too smug to be bothered by a non-ham.
Luckily we have a government organization....

From: on Fri 2 Sep 2005 06:09


Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: on Sep 1, 3:37 am

There's truth that the four morsemen have tried through intimidation,
personal attacks, and talk of moderating the group and excluding
non-amateurs.

By all appearances, the "Four Morsemen of the Apocalypse" want to
exclude all but PCTAs in this newsgroup.

There's one of your deliberate misstatements, Leonard.

That's merely your wrong opinion. I happen to agree with Len.

Dishonorable Judge Heil does not rule in favor of any non-PCTA.

ANYTHING contrary to PCTA thinking is "wrong" and must be
punished by them with humiliation, denigration, denunciations.

They do so with charges of "stupidity" and "errors" and some
uncivil remarks including labels of "piranha" and "Foghorn Lenhorn"
and "little electrolytic acolyte" and other endearing terms.

Len, you've invented more rude names for folks than any person here.
You started out as windy, insulting, condescending and pontificating.
It went downhill from there. Poor baby. Tsk, tsk. :-) :-)

David, you've started out as you've ended up. Smug.

Don't forget arrogant (if not egotistical).

Then
they get upset by others calling them names. The PCTA extra Double
Standard is always invoked in their postings.

...and there's one of your factual errors.

Case in point is James Miccolis constant statement of "that's
just plain wrong" in regards to others' opinions...as if he were
the sole judge of what is right and wrong.

You know, Leonard, it's funny that when Jim uses that phrase, you almost
always turn out to be just plain wrong.

Len has never worked out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. As far as I
know, only you hold that distinction and title.

He should be PROUD of it.

Then there is his
(macro) paragraph of denunciation of my postings with uncivil
terms in it, repeated and repeated on his whim.

I don't see that profile of your likely actions to be a denunciation at
all. It reads like an accurate summary of your actions. All anyone has
to do is look at N2EY's profile and compare it with archives of your
past posts. Any reader can make a judgement as to whether the profile
is accurate or inaccurate.

Yours is smug.

Everyone is invited to view Heil's message archives and arrive
at your summation. I would have added "arrogant" but that may
be a personal choice.

By the way, tell us who was discussing moderating and closing the
newsgroup to non-hams and for what purpose.

Do your own homework.

My homework? You made mention of something but you don't care to be
specific. The matter remains unsubstantiated by you.

best of luck.

Heil forgets that I've openly SUGGESTED to the PCTA to get their own
MODERATED newsgroup.

I haven't forgotten. Brian Burke may have though. He seems to think it
was some sort of PCTA plot.

Then I stand corrected on that single point. However, Jim, Kelly,
RE-4YZ, and you repeatedly post that Len is not an amateur. The
purpose is to discredit Len's opinions, without considering his
opinions on their own merit. Luckily, we have a government body that
is not bound by such absurdity.

Dishonorable Judge Heil is benched.

Heil will not discuss the lawful fact that neither Commissioners or
staff at the FCC are required to hold amateur radio license grants
in order to REGULATE and ENFORCE U.S. amateur radio regulations.

Heil believes in the good-old-boys-pecking-order-in-club-house
rule of only those tenured in licensing are "suitable" for
"leadership." Heil doesn't want to understand that ALL U.S. civil
radio is regulated and enforced by the FCC, NOT the licensees.

That way they can be assured of proper Group
Think and not be bothered by opposing opinions from non-PCTA folk.

Do you really think that any self-respecting radio amateur would let a
non-ham tell us to go away from a newsgroup dealing with amateur radio?
You've probably gathered that it won't happen.

Eternal hope shines brightly.

Not for me in Heil's case. He simply can't be told anything he
doesn't want to hear.

This newsgroup is UNmoderated and that is how most feel it should
be.

No kidding? Really?

Really, and without kidding.

Heil cannot understand that. We should cease telling him in order
to save time for more productive efforts.

But...Heil is easily upset and so he must VENT in here.

What accounts for non-radio amateur Anderson's VENTING in here? You've
haunted an amateur radio newsgroup for close to a decade. You weren't a
radio amateur back then and you aren't a radio amateur now.

Hmmmm? Why would Heil make such a statement?

It must be close to a decade since Heil ceased being a paid
worker in the "foreign service" of the Department of State.
Absolutely NO evidence has been presented of his having learned
ANY diplomacy there.

I'll bet
you've retold your fascinating tale of BIG TIME HF work at ADA over
fifty times. It is a story having nothing to do with amateur radio and
everything to do with Len Anderson's desire to be recognized as
somebody. Well, you're certainly recognized, Len.

I especially like Jim's recounting amateur radio's contributions during
WWII when there was no legal amateur radio operations in the USA. He
cracks me up.

Then there's Heil's thrilling tales of African adventures
where he "synchronized" State Department communications via
morsemanship in the 1980s...claiming that "radio communications
paths were so poor that they would not support teleprinter/data
modes."

None of that has anything to do with amateur radio...unless one
counts the entirety of the Department of State as an "amateur"
effort of foreign policy.

Tsk. In other government radio, the U.S. military has maintained
teleprinter/data networks 24/7 in equatorial regions as well as
elsewhere some THIRTY YEARS PRIOR to Heil's tale of inability to
get a State Department radio circuit working. [Asmara, Eritrea,
was the principal relay point for DCS/Starcom/ACAN linkage of
Manila, Phillipines, to Pirmasens, FRG, kept open on 24/7 basis
from 1948 to about 1978...Asmara can be considered to be in the
"equatorial region" of the African continent]

Lacking
valid arguments on SUBJECTS he attempts personal attack by constant
reference to non-licensed amateurs' postings as if those were "not
allowed." Heil acts the bigot on newsgroup participation.

I've never ever said anything about your postings not being allowed. I
have stated that I don't give them any credence and I've suggested that
others might want to discount the rantings of an old gent with no
experience in amateur radio. You've gone way, way beyond that. You
have, in comments to the FCC, said that they should disregard the
comments of several radio amateurs. You're pathetic.

Hmmm? You can ask folks to ignore Len, but Len cannot?

January 25th, 1999, ten days beyond the cutoff date of Replies
to Comments on 98-143 ("Restructuring"), Dudly the USMC imposter
attempted to have the FCC disregard my Comment (a Reply to Comment
of Michael Deignan) entire becasue of not being a licensed radio
amateur or worthy of even making any comments. That one is still
in public view at the FCC ECFS, in the archives. My Reply to
Comment was stamped as "received" on 13 January 1999, also in
public view.

Heil is of the dictatorial view that ONLY licensed radio amateurs
are worthy of commenting/talking/discussing ANYTHING about amateur
radio...the "clubhouse" syndrome. Of course, such an attitude
would NEGATE U.S. government regulation and enforcement of amateur
radio since no Commissioner or FCC staffer is required to hold any
amateur radio license grants.

That's a dichotomy in thinking of Heil as a former employee of the
U.S. government. It's also friggin' WEIRD.

Heil (who claims to be a linguist of Hunnish) forgot, in another
post, that the fictious name of "Dudley" was used by author Earnest
K. Gann in his book, "Fate Is The Hunter." [my mention in here]
Frank Gilliland and I used another fictitious name of "Dudly" in
reference to another, a military pretender in here. There was no
misspelling of "Dudley" at all, just the use of "Dudly" to
differentiate from Gann's original name use. A shortened form of
"Dudly" is "Dud" which also fits that other, the pretender.

I see. It must be like your use of "Atila" to differentiate between the
real "Attila" and your use of "beligerent" to differentiate between real
warlike "belligerants". The name "Dudley" is an actual name. The name
"Dudly" doesn't exist. Very UNPROFESSIONAL, Leonard; very UNPROFESSIONAL.

It's less unprofessional than working out of band Frenchmen on 6
meters, IMHO.

Heil attempts to word-play in a puerile game of trying to be the
schoolmistress rapping the knuckles of "students" who make minor
"typographical" errors in spelling. I did not mention any Hun
who wishes to conquer any ham world, only that Heil attempts to be
a master of Hunnish language and the only "judge" on translations
of Hunnish to English.

Dudly the USMC imposter is another subject, already exposed. The
"Dudley" of Gann's book (published in 1961) is yet another subject.
Heil is unable to tell the two apart. In that case he must think
that the Gann pilot-imposter "Dudley" is the SAME as this
newsgroup's
USMC-imposter "Dudly" but cannot commit himself to comment.

You can tell the Mrs. that those dratted hams aren't giving you any
respect again.

Dave K8MN

One ham isn't. Never has. Too smug to be bothered by a non-ham.
Luckily we have a government organization....

Former government employee Heil seems overly bothered by a non-
amateur (who is and has been a long time a Commercial/Professional
licensee). That demonstrates his own insecurity.

Fortunately, for the CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES, we are still
protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Heil thinks that the First Amendment does NOT APPLY when discussing
amateur radio subjects. His black uniform and jackboots must be
too ill-fitting for him to tolerate deviation from his dictatorial
wannabe-ruler complex. Very strange behavior exhibited by Heil.

wrote:
From: on Fri 2 Sep 2005 06:09
Dave Heil wrote:

You know, Leonard, it's funny that when Jim uses that phrase, you almost
always turn out to be just plain wrong.

Len has never worked out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. As far as I
know, only you hold that distinction and title.

He should be PROUD of it.

Perhaps I'll petition my ARRL to come up with a new operating award.

Then there is his
(macro) paragraph of denunciation of my postings with uncivil
terms in it, repeated and repeated on his whim.

I don't see that profile of your likely actions to be a denunciation at
all. It reads like an accurate summary of your actions. All anyone has
to do is look at N2EY's profile and compare it with archives of your
past posts. Any reader can make a judgement as to whether the profile
is accurate or inaccurate.

Yours is smug.

Everyone is invited to view Heil's message archives and arrive
at your summation. I would have added "arrogant" but that may
be a personal choice.

By the way, tell us who was discussing moderating and closing the
newsgroup to non-hams and for what purpose.

Do your own homework.

My homework? You made mention of something but you don't care to be
specific. The matter remains unsubstantiated by you.

best of luck.

Heil forgets that I've openly SUGGESTED to the PCTA to get their own
MODERATED newsgroup.

I haven't forgotten. Brian Burke may have though. He seems to think it
was some sort of PCTA plot.

Then I stand corrected on that single point. However, Jim, Kelly,
RE-4YZ, and you repeatedly post that Len is not an amateur. The
purpose is to discredit Len's opinions, without considering his
opinions on their own merit. Luckily, we have a government body that
is not bound by such absurdity.

Dishonorable Judge Heil is benched.

Heil will not discuss the lawful fact that neither Commissioners or
staff at the FCC are required to hold amateur radio license grants
in order to REGULATE and ENFORCE U.S. amateur radio regulations.

And those Commissioners and staff are serving in the public interest,
not the amateur's interest. Something that Jim et al always seems to
forget when recommneding your opinions are invalid because you're not a
ham.

Heil believes in the good-old-boys-pecking-order-in-club-house
rule of only those tenured in licensing are "suitable" for
"leadership." Heil doesn't want to understand that ALL U.S. civil
radio is regulated and enforced by the FCC, NOT the licensees.

And the Dept. of State is a vehicle for DX destinations.

That way they can be assured of proper Group
Think and not be bothered by opposing opinions from non-PCTA folk.

Do you really think that any self-respecting radio amateur would let a
non-ham tell us to go away from a newsgroup dealing with amateur radio?
You've probably gathered that it won't happen.

Eternal hope shines brightly.

Not for me in Heil's case. He simply can't be told anything he
doesn't want to hear.

He is only one insignificant man.

This newsgroup is UNmoderated and that is how most feel it should
be.

No kidding? Really?

Really, and without kidding.

Heil cannot understand that. We should cease telling him in order
to save time for more productive efforts.

Never.

But...Heil is easily upset and so he must VENT in here.

What accounts for non-radio amateur Anderson's VENTING in here? You've
haunted an amateur radio newsgroup for close to a decade. You weren't a
radio amateur back then and you aren't a radio amateur now.

Hmmmm? Why would Heil make such a statement?

It must be close to a decade since Heil ceased being a paid
worker in the "foreign service" of the Department of State.
Absolutely NO evidence has been presented of his having learned
ANY diplomacy there.

He was merely their messenger.

I'll bet
you've retold your fascinating tale of BIG TIME HF work at ADA over
fifty times. It is a story having nothing to do with amateur radio and
everything to do with Len Anderson's desire to be recognized as
somebody. Well, you're certainly recognized, Len.

I especially like Jim's recounting amateur radio's contributions during
WWII when there was no legal amateur radio operations in the USA. He
cracks me up.

Then there's Heil's thrilling tales of African adventures
where he "synchronized" State Department communications via
morsemanship in the 1980s...

He opened and closed rtty circuits with CW?

claiming that "radio communications
paths were so poor that they would not support teleprinter/data
modes."

He was probably doing something wrong.

None of that has anything to do with amateur radio...unless one
counts the entirety of the Department of State as an "amateur"
effort of foreign policy.

"Sorry Len, State Dept. Communications IS Amateur Radio!" Hi,
hi!

Tsk. In other government radio, the U.S. military has maintained
teleprinter/data networks 24/7 in equatorial regions as well as
elsewhere some THIRTY YEARS PRIOR to Heil's tale of inability to
get a State Department radio circuit working. [Asmara, Eritrea,
was the principal relay point for DCS/Starcom/ACAN linkage of
Manila, Phillipines, to Pirmasens, FRG, kept open on 24/7 basis
from 1948 to about 1978...Asmara can be considered to be in the
"equatorial region" of the African continent]

I would consider it so. But I only have a degree in Geography.

Lacking
valid arguments on SUBJECTS he attempts personal attack by constant
reference to non-licensed amateurs' postings as if those were "not
allowed." Heil acts the bigot on newsgroup participation.

I've never ever said anything about your postings not being allowed. I
have stated that I don't give them any credence and I've suggested that
others might want to discount the rantings of an old gent with no
experience in amateur radio. You've gone way, way beyond that. You
have, in comments to the FCC, said that they should disregard the
comments of several radio amateurs. You're pathetic.

Hmmm? You can ask folks to ignore Len, but Len cannot?

January 25th, 1999, ten days beyond the cutoff date of Replies
to Comments on 98-143 ("Restructuring"), Dudly the USMC imposter
attempted to have the FCC disregard my Comment (a Reply to Comment
of Michael Deignan) entire becasue of not being a licensed radio
amateur or worthy of even making any comments. That one is still
in public view at the FCC ECFS, in the archives. My Reply to
Comment was stamped as "received" on 13 January 1999, also in
public view.

Other TN amateurs have referred to RA-4YZ as a "POS," according to
Mark.

Heil is of the dictatorial view that ONLY licensed radio amateurs
are worthy of commenting/talking/discussing ANYTHING about amateur
radio...the "clubhouse" syndrome. Of course, such an attitude
would NEGATE U.S. government regulation and enforcement of amateur
radio since no Commissioner or FCC staffer is required to hold any
amateur radio license grants.

That's a dichotomy in thinking of Heil as a former employee of the
U.S. government. It's also friggin' WEIRD.

Heil may have spent too much time in the basement with his radios.

Heil (who claims to be a linguist of Hunnish) forgot, in another
post, that the fictious name of "Dudley" was used by author Earnest
K. Gann in his book, "Fate Is The Hunter." [my mention in here]
Frank Gilliland and I used another fictitious name of "Dudly" in
reference to another, a military pretender in here. There was no
misspelling of "Dudley" at all, just the use of "Dudly" to
differentiate from Gann's original name use. A shortened form of
"Dudly" is "Dud" which also fits that other, the pretender.

I see. It must be like your use of "Atila" to differentiate between the
real "Attila" and your use of "beligerent" to differentiate between real
warlike "belligerants". The name "Dudley" is an actual name. The name
"Dudly" doesn't exist. Very UNPROFESSIONAL, Leonard; very UNPROFESSIONAL.

It's less unprofessional than working out of band Frenchmen on 6
meters, IMHO.

Heil attempts to word-play in a puerile game of trying to be the
schoolmistress rapping the knuckles of "students" who make minor
"typographical" errors in spelling.

Dave is smug.

I did not mention any Hun
who wishes to conquer any ham world, only that Heil attempts to be
a master of Hunnish language and the only "judge" on translations
of Hunnish to English.

Dave must be multi-lingual.

Dudly the USMC imposter is another subject, already exposed. The
"Dudley" of Gann's book (published in 1961) is yet another subject.
Heil is unable to tell the two apart. In that case he must think
that the Gann pilot-imposter "Dudley" is the SAME as this
newsgroup's
USMC-imposter "Dudly" but cannot commit himself to comment.

He's AWOL.

You can tell the Mrs. that those dratted hams aren't giving you any
respect again.

Dave K8MN

One ham isn't. Never has. Too smug to be bothered by a non-ham.
Luckily we have a government organization....

Former government employee Heil seems overly bothered by a non-
amateur (who is and has been a long time a Commercial/Professional
licensee). That demonstrates his own insecurity.

He should have been outraged when that illiterate fool Bruce got an
Extra license.

Fortunately, for the CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES, we are still
protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

So far.

Heil thinks that the First Amendment does NOT APPLY when discussing
amateur radio subjects. His black uniform and jackboots must be
too ill-fitting for him to tolerate deviation from his dictatorial
wannabe-ruler complex. Very strange behavior exhibited by Heil.



I need to read what Dave, Jim, Kelly, and Steve have sent in to the FCC.

wrote:
wrote:

From: on Fri 2 Sep 2005 06:09

Dave Heil wrote:

Len has never worked out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. As far as I
know, only you hold that distinction and title.

He should be PROUD of it.


Perhaps I'll petition my ARRL to come up with a new operating award.

I encourage you to follow through with your idea. It is certain to be
received with the attention it deserves.


Heil believes in the good-old-boys-pecking-order-in-club-house
rule of only those tenured in licensing are "suitable" for
"leadership." Heil doesn't want to understand that ALL U.S. civil
radio is regulated and enforced by the FCC, NOT the licensees.


And the Dept. of State is a vehicle for DX destinations.

It can be, *if* you know what you're doing.


But...Heil is easily upset and so he must VENT in here.

What accounts for non-radio amateur Anderson's VENTING in here? You've
haunted an amateur radio newsgroup for close to a decade. You weren't a
radio amateur back then and you aren't a radio amateur now.

Hmmmm? Why would Heil make such a statement?

It must be close to a decade since Heil ceased being a paid
worker in the "foreign service" of the Department of State.
Absolutely NO evidence has been presented of his having learned
ANY diplomacy there.

There you go, Brian. Len's made another factual error. It won't be
five years until the end of this year. As to learning "ANY diplomacy",
there is never an instance where an ambassador calls a communications
type and says, "We've just received news from Washington. I want you to
go to the Foreign Ministry and make a demarche".

He was merely their messenger.

Perhaps it soothes you to cling to that belief.

I'll bet
you've retold your fascinating tale of BIG TIME HF work at ADA over
fifty times. It is a story having nothing to do with amateur radio and
everything to do with Len Anderson's desire to be recognized as
somebody. Well, you're certainly recognized, Len.

I especially like Jim's recounting amateur radio's contributions during
WWII when there was no legal amateur radio operations in the USA. He
cracks me up.

Then there's Heil's thrilling tales of African adventures
where he "synchronized" State Department communications via
morsemanship in the 1980s...


He opened and closed rtty circuits with CW?

He surely did, but not on the same frequency as the RTTY circuit.

claiming that "radio communications
paths were so poor that they would not support teleprinter/data
modes."


He was probably doing something wrong.

Actually, I maintained the lowest QSY rate of any AFRECONE station.
That part about claiming that propagation paths were so poor that there
were times when they wouldn't support encrypted RTTY communications? It
was absolutely true. Then again, neither you nor Len know where the
other end of my circuit was. That'll just have to remain a mystery.

None of that has anything to do with amateur radio...unless one
counts the entirety of the Department of State as an "amateur"
effort of foreign policy.

Do you think has an anti-U.S. Foreign Policy bias, Brian?

"Sorry Len, State Dept. Communications IS Amateur Radio!" Hi,
hi!

You wrote it. It is your quote. Don't be surprised if you see it again.


Tsk. In other government radio, the U.S. military has maintained
teleprinter/data networks 24/7 in equatorial regions as well as
elsewhere some THIRTY YEARS PRIOR to Heil's tale of inability to
get a State Department radio circuit working. [Asmara, Eritrea,
was the principal relay point for DCS/Starcom/ACAN linkage of
Manila, Phillipines, to Pirmasens, FRG, kept open on 24/7 basis
from 1948 to about 1978...Asmara can be considered to be in the
"equatorial region" of the African continent]


I would consider it so. But I only have a degree in Geography.

With that degree, you'd likely be able to figure that Bissau and
Freetown are across the continent from Asmara. When my old colleagues
speak of the "West African Echo" they don't include East Africa. Go
figure. I didn't work into nor did I work through Asmara. The missing
piece of the puzzle for both of you is the location of the station I
worked into. Good luck.

Heil is of the dictatorial view that ONLY licensed radio amateurs
are worthy of commenting/talking/discussing ANYTHING about amateur
radio...the "clubhouse" syndrome. Of course, such an attitude
would NEGATE U.S. government regulation and enforcement of amateur
radio since no Commissioner or FCC staffer is required to hold any
amateur radio license grants.

That's a dichotomy in thinking of Heil as a former employee of the
U.S. government. It's also friggin' WEIRD.

Len has discussed. Len had commented. I'm guessing that Len has
talked, though there's no evidence of it here. Len has insulted. Len
has denigrated. Len has belittled.

As to the FCC staffer schpiel, it has been previously addressed a number
of times. Len isn't an FCC staffer, nor is he a radio amateur.


Heil may have spent too much time in the basement with his radios.

Now *that* would be weird. My hamshack consists of two, adjacent second
floor rooms.

Heil (who claims to be a linguist of Hunnish) forgot, in another
post, that the fictious name of "Dudley" was used by author Earnest
K. Gann in his book, "Fate Is The Hunter." [my mention in here]
Frank Gilliland and I used another fictitious name of "Dudly" in
reference to another, a military pretender in here. There was no
misspelling of "Dudley" at all, just the use of "Dudly" to
differentiate from Gann's original name use. A shortened form of
"Dudly" is "Dud" which also fits that other, the pretender.

I see. It must be like your use of "Atila" to differentiate between the
real "Attila" and your use of "beligerent" to differentiate between real
warlike "belligerants". The name "Dudley" is an actual name. The name
"Dudly" doesn't exist. Very UNPROFESSIONAL, Leonard; very UNPROFESSIONAL.

It's less unprofessional than working out of band Frenchmen on 6
meters, IMHO.

Heil attempts to word-play in a puerile game of trying to be the
schoolmistress rapping the knuckles of "students" who make minor
"typographical" errors in spelling.


Dave is smug.

I certainly can be from time to time. Len used a couple of words three
or more times each. He spelled them in the same incorrect way each
time. They were not typographical errors. They were Len's spelling
errors. Did you know that Len claims to be a PROFESSIONAL writer?

I did not mention any Hun
who wishes to conquer any ham world, only that Heil attempts to be
a master of Hunnish language and the only "judge" on translations
of Hunnish to English.


Dave must be multi-lingual.

If the word belligerent is based in Latin, then I am. Len seems to
think it was used by Attila and his horde.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

From: on Fri 2 Sep 2005 06:09

Dave Heil wrote:

Len has never worked out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. As far as I
know, only you hold that distinction and title.

He should be PROUD of it.

Perhaps I'll petition my ARRL to come up with a new operating award.

I encourage you to follow through with your idea. It is certain to be
received with the attention it deserves.

Fantastic! An endorsement from the World's Greatest DXer. I'll
request that it be known as the "Heil Award," in your honor.

Heil believes in the good-old-boys-pecking-order-in-club-house
rule of only those tenured in licensing are "suitable" for
"leadership." Heil doesn't want to understand that ALL U.S. civil
radio is regulated and enforced by the FCC, NOT the licensees.

And the Dept. of State is a vehicle for DX destinations.

It can be, *if* you know what you're doing.

I'm sure there were lines of comm types waiting for some of your
destinations.

Dave, off subject - are you eligible for military hops?

But...Heil is easily upset and so he must VENT in here.

What accounts for non-radio amateur Anderson's VENTING in here? You've
haunted an amateur radio newsgroup for close to a decade. You weren't a
radio amateur back then and you aren't a radio amateur now.

Hmmmm? Why would Heil make such a statement?

It must be close to a decade since Heil ceased being a paid
worker in the "foreign service" of the Department of State.
Absolutely NO evidence has been presented of his having learned
ANY diplomacy there.

There you go, Brian. Len's made another factual error. It won't be
five years until the end of this year.

Fair enough. Should I call him a liar at this point? Do I threaten
bricks through windows, slashed tires, terrorized wives? Maybe I need
to start a new thread about how Len might be homosexual or an idiot or
both?

Do I need to do anything?

As to learning "ANY diplomacy",
there is never an instance where an ambassador calls a communications
type and says, "We've just received news from Washington. I want you to
go to the Foreign Ministry and make a demarche".

And there you have it.

He was merely their messenger.

Perhaps it soothes you to cling to that belief.

In addition to sending messages, what else did you do?

I'll bet
you've retold your fascinating tale of BIG TIME HF work at ADA over
fifty times. It is a story having nothing to do with amateur radio and
everything to do with Len Anderson's desire to be recognized as
somebody. Well, you're certainly recognized, Len.

I especially like Jim's recounting amateur radio's contributions during
WWII when there was no legal amateur radio operations in the USA. He
cracks me up.

Then there's Heil's thrilling tales of African adventures
where he "synchronized" State Department communications via
morsemanship in the 1980s...

He opened and closed rtty circuits with CW?

He surely did, but not on the same frequency as the RTTY circuit.

What frequency?

claiming that "radio communications
paths were so poor that they would not support teleprinter/data
modes."

He was probably doing something wrong.

Actually, I maintained the lowest QSY rate of any AFRECONE station.

Is there an award for keeping folks on frequency too long?

That part about claiming that propagation paths were so poor that there
were times when they wouldn't support encrypted RTTY communications? It
was absolutely true. Then again, neither you nor Len know where the
other end of my circuit was. That'll just have to remain a mystery.

I've operated on encrypted circuits as well. That we lacked enough
frequencies to operate 24/7 is true.

None of that has anything to do with amateur radio...unless one
counts the entirety of the Department of State as an "amateur"
effort of foreign policy.

Do you think has an anti-U.S. Foreign Policy bias, Brian?

I -could- pretend to not understand your question, but that would be
too heilish.

I think that Len has an anti-Heil bias. And when you apparently deny
your professional radio experience, what are we to think? I think that
you choose to not recognize your professional radio experience because
it might get in the way of your denigrations of Len.

"Sorry Len, State Dept. Communications IS Amateur Radio!" Hi,
hi!

You wrote it. It is your quote. Don't be surprised if you see it again.

"Hi, hi!" A joke. You're welcome to bring it up again at anytime - as
a joke.

Tsk. In other government radio, the U.S. military has maintained
teleprinter/data networks 24/7 in equatorial regions as well as
elsewhere some THIRTY YEARS PRIOR to Heil's tale of inability to
get a State Department radio circuit working. [Asmara, Eritrea,
was the principal relay point for DCS/Starcom/ACAN linkage of
Manila, Phillipines, to Pirmasens, FRG, kept open on 24/7 basis
from 1948 to about 1978...Asmara can be considered to be in the
"equatorial region" of the African continent]

I would consider it so. But I only have a degree in Geography.

With that degree, you'd likely be able to figure that Bissau and
Freetown are across the continent from Asmara. When my old colleagues
speak of the "West African Echo" they don't include East Africa. Go
figure. I didn't work into nor did I work through Asmara. The missing
piece of the puzzle for both of you is the location of the station I
worked into. Good luck.

Ascension.

Heil is of the dictatorial view that ONLY licensed radio amateurs
are worthy of commenting/talking/discussing ANYTHING about amateur
radio...the "clubhouse" syndrome. Of course, such an attitude
would NEGATE U.S. government regulation and enforcement of amateur
radio since no Commissioner or FCC staffer is required to hold any
amateur radio license grants.

That's a dichotomy in thinking of Heil as a former employee of the
U.S. government. It's also friggin' WEIRD.

Len has discussed. Len had commented. I'm guessing that Len has
talked, though there's no evidence of it here. Len has insulted. Len
has denigrated. Len has belittled.

I agree. Has Len been insulted? denigrated? belittled?

As to the FCC staffer schpiel, it has been previously addressed a number
of times. Len isn't an FCC staffer, nor is he a radio amateur.

Nor are most FCC staffers, even the ones dealing directly with amateur
radio.

Heil may have spent too much time in the basement with his radios.

Now *that* would be weird. My hamshack consists of two, adjacent second
floor rooms.

You told us you lived in a tarpaper shack.

Heil (who claims to be a linguist of Hunnish) forgot, in another
post, that the fictious name of "Dudley" was used by author Earnest
K. Gann in his book, "Fate Is The Hunter." [my mention in here]
Frank Gilliland and I used another fictitious name of "Dudly" in
reference to another, a military pretender in here. There was no
misspelling of "Dudley" at all, just the use of "Dudly" to
differentiate from Gann's original name use. A shortened form of
"Dudly" is "Dud" which also fits that other, the pretender.

I see. It must be like your use of "Atila" to differentiate between the
real "Attila" and your use of "beligerent" to differentiate between real
warlike "belligerants". The name "Dudley" is an actual name. The name
"Dudly" doesn't exist. Very UNPROFESSIONAL, Leonard; very UNPROFESSIONAL.

It's less unprofessional than working out of band Frenchmen on 6
meters, IMHO.

Heil attempts to word-play in a puerile game of trying to be the
schoolmistress rapping the knuckles of "students" who make minor
"typographical" errors in spelling.

Dave is smug.

I certainly can be from time to time.

From time to time?

Len used a couple of words three
or more times each. He spelled them in the same incorrect way each
time. They were not typographical errors. They were Len's spelling
errors. Did you know that Len claims to be a PROFESSIONAL writer?

Aye. You should see my son's textbooks....

I did not mention any Hun
who wishes to conquer any ham world, only that Heil attempts to be
a master of Hunnish language and the only "judge" on translations
of Hunnish to English.

Dave must be multi-lingual.

If the word belligerent is based in Latin, then I am. Len seems to
think it was used by Attila and his horde.

What word would attila have used?

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

From: on Fri 2 Sep 2005 06:09

Dave Heil wrote:

Len has never worked out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. As far as I
know, only you hold that distinction and title.

He should be PROUD of it.


Perhaps I'll petition my ARRL to come up with a new operating award.

I encourage you to follow through with your idea. It is certain to be
received with the attention it deserves.


Heil believes in the good-old-boys-pecking-order-in-club-house
rule of only those tenured in licensing are "suitable" for
"leadership." Heil doesn't want to understand that ALL U.S. civil
radio is regulated and enforced by the FCC, NOT the licensees.


And the Dept. of State is a vehicle for DX destinations.

It can be, *if* you know what you're doing.


But...Heil is easily upset and so he must VENT in here.

What accounts for non-radio amateur Anderson's VENTING in here? You've
haunted an amateur radio newsgroup for close to a decade. You weren't a
radio amateur back then and you aren't a radio amateur now.

Hmmmm? Why would Heil make such a statement?

It must be close to a decade since Heil ceased being a paid
worker in the "foreign service" of the Department of State.
Absolutely NO evidence has been presented of his having learned
ANY diplomacy there.

There you go, Brian. Len's made another factual error. It won't be
five years until the end of this year. As to learning "ANY diplomacy",
there is never an instance where an ambassador calls a communications
type and says, "We've just received news from Washington. I want you to
go to the Foreign Ministry and make a demarche".

He was merely their messenger.

Perhaps it soothes you to cling to that belief.

I'll bet
you've retold your fascinating tale of BIG TIME HF work at ADA over
fifty times. It is a story having nothing to do with amateur radio and
everything to do with Len Anderson's desire to be recognized as
somebody. Well, you're certainly recognized, Len.

I especially like Jim's recounting amateur radio's contributions during
WWII when there was no legal amateur radio operations in the USA. He
cracks me up.

Then there's Heil's thrilling tales of African adventures
where he "synchronized" State Department communications via
morsemanship in the 1980s...


He opened and closed rtty circuits with CW?

He surely did, but not on the same frequency as the RTTY circuit.

claiming that "radio communications
paths were so poor that they would not support teleprinter/data
modes."


He was probably doing something wrong.

Actually, I maintained the lowest QSY rate of any AFRECONE station.
That part about claiming that propagation paths were so poor that there
were times when they wouldn't support encrypted RTTY communications? It
was absolutely true. Then again, neither you nor Len know where the
other end of my circuit was. That'll just have to remain a mystery.

None of that has anything to do with amateur radio...unless one
counts the entirety of the Department of State as an "amateur"
effort of foreign policy.

Do you think has an anti-U.S. Foreign Policy bias, Brian?

"Sorry Len, State Dept. Communications IS Amateur Radio!" Hi,
hi!

You wrote it. It is your quote. Don't be surprised if you see it again.


Tsk. In other government radio, the U.S. military has maintained
teleprinter/data networks 24/7 in equatorial regions as well as
elsewhere some THIRTY YEARS PRIOR to Heil's tale of inability to
get a State Department radio circuit working. [Asmara, Eritrea,
was the principal relay point for DCS/Starcom/ACAN linkage of
Manila, Phillipines, to Pirmasens, FRG, kept open on 24/7 basis
from 1948 to about 1978...Asmara can be considered to be in the
"equatorial region" of the African continent]


I would consider it so. But I only have a degree in Geography.

With that degree, you'd likely be able to figure that Bissau and
Freetown are across the continent from Asmara. When my old colleagues
speak of the "West African Echo" they don't include East Africa. Go
figure. I didn't work into nor did I work through Asmara. The missing
piece of the puzzle for both of you is the location of the station I
worked into. Good luck.

Heil is of the dictatorial view that ONLY licensed radio amateurs
are worthy of commenting/talking/discussing ANYTHING about amateur
radio...the "clubhouse" syndrome. Of course, such an attitude
would NEGATE U.S. government regulation and enforcement of amateur
radio since no Commissioner or FCC staffer is required to hold any
amateur radio license grants.

That's a dichotomy in thinking of Heil as a former employee of the
U.S. government. It's also friggin' WEIRD.

Len has discussed. Len had commented. I'm guessing that Len has
talked, though there's no evidence of it here. Len has insulted. Len
has denigrated. Len has belittled.

As to the FCC staffer schpiel, it has been previously addressed a number
of times. Len isn't an FCC staffer, nor is he a radio amateur.


Heil may have spent too much time in the basement with his radios.

Now *that* would be weird. My hamshack consists of two, adjacent second
floor rooms.

Heil (who claims to be a linguist of Hunnish) forgot, in another
post, that the fictious name of "Dudley" was used by author Earnest
K. Gann in his book, "Fate Is The Hunter." [my mention in here]
Frank Gilliland and I used another fictitious name of "Dudly" in
reference to another, a military pretender in here. There was no
misspelling of "Dudley" at all, just the use of "Dudly" to
differentiate from Gann's original name use. A shortened form of
"Dudly" is "Dud" which also fits that other, the pretender.

I see. It must be like your use of "Atila" to differentiate between the
real "Attila" and your use of "beligerent" to differentiate between real
warlike "belligerants". The name "Dudley" is an actual name. The name
"Dudly" doesn't exist. Very UNPROFESSIONAL, Leonard; very UNPROFESSIONAL.

It's less unprofessional than working out of band Frenchmen on 6
meters, IMHO.

Heil attempts to word-play in a puerile game of trying to be the
schoolmistress rapping the knuckles of "students" who make minor
"typographical" errors in spelling.


Dave is smug.

I certainly can be from time to time. Len used a couple of words three
or more times each. He spelled them in the same incorrect way each
time. They were not typographical errors. They were Len's spelling
errors. Did you know that Len claims to be a PROFESSIONAL writer?

I did not mention any Hun
who wishes to conquer any ham world, only that Heil attempts to be
a master of Hunnish language and the only "judge" on translations
of Hunnish to English.


Dave must be multi-lingual.

If the word belligerent is based in Latin, then I am. Len seems to
think it was used by Attila and his horde.

Dave K8MN