Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

Intimidating Leonard H. Anderson? How does one intimidate a piranha?
Len began personal attacks long before he got on the receiving end.
Discussion of moderating a newsgroup is not a forbidden subject.

I remember well when Leneoard was all upset that some regular poster
here decided to meet on 40m CW. Len probably considered his right of
free speech to be violated in that instance. Of course he was wrong.

The fact is that your claim that Jim Miccolis prevented Len from posting
here is utter nonsense. You're becoming well known for nonsense.

The fact is that there are two sides to every story, and you clowns
think you own both. You don't. Get used to it.

That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old
evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented
Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do.

Do you ever tire of being wrong?

Do you ever tire of being an A1 Operator and work out of band Frenchmen
on 6 meters?

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

Intimidating Leonard H. Anderson? How does one intimidate a piranha?
Len began personal attacks long before he got on the receiving end.
Discussion of moderating a newsgroup is not a forbidden subject.

I remember well when Leneoard was all upset that some regular poster
here decided to meet on 40m CW. Len probably considered his right of
free speech to be violated in that instance. Of course he was wrong.

The fact is that your claim that Jim Miccolis prevented Len from posting
here is utter nonsense. You're becoming well known for nonsense.

The fact is that there are two sides to every story, and you clowns
think you own both. You don't. Get used to it.

That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old
evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented
Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do.

Do you ever tire of being wrong?

Do you ever tire of being an A1 Operator and work out of band Frenchmen
on 6 meters?

Do you?

wrote:
wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


Intimidating Leonard H. Anderson? How does one intimidate a piranha?
Len began personal attacks long before he got on the receiving end.
Discussion of moderating a newsgroup is not a forbidden subject.

I remember well when Leneoard was all upset that some regular poster
here decided to meet on 40m CW. Len probably considered his right of
free speech to be violated in that instance. Of course he was wrong.

The fact is that your claim that Jim Miccolis prevented Len from posting
here is utter nonsense. You're becoming well known for nonsense.

The fact is that there are two sides to every story, and you clowns
think you own both. You don't. Get used to it.

That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old
evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented
Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do.

Do you ever tire of being wrong?

Do you ever tire of being an A1 Operator and work out of band Frenchmen
on 6 meters?


Do you?

Why no, Brian, I've never tired of being an A-1 Op. Do you tire of
being one? I've never been out of band when working French ops on any
band. If French ops work outside their allocations, they are
responsible and it is up to the French PTT to do something about it.
Then again, you already knew that.

Do you ever tire of trying to make something out of nothing?

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

Intimidating Leonard H. Anderson? How does one intimidate a piranha?
Len began personal attacks long before he got on the receiving end.
Discussion of moderating a newsgroup is not a forbidden subject.

I remember well when Leneoard was all upset that some regular poster
here decided to meet on 40m CW. Len probably considered his right of
free speech to be violated in that instance. Of course he was wrong.

The fact is that your claim that Jim Miccolis prevented Len from posting
here is utter nonsense. You're becoming well known for nonsense.

The fact is that there are two sides to every story, and you clowns
think you own both. You don't. Get used to it.

That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old
evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented
Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do.

Do you ever tire of being wrong?

Do you ever tire of being an A1 Operator and work out of band Frenchmen
on 6 meters?

Do you?

Why no, Brian, I've never tired of being an A-1 Op. Do you tire of
being one?

I have no certificate from Hiram, suitable for framing. But I do take
pride in my station, my signal, and my operating abilities. And if I
were aware that French hams were out of band, I wouldn't be completing
circuits for them nor sending them QSL cards.

bb

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:


wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:


Intimidating Leonard H. Anderson? How does one intimidate a piranha?
Len began personal attacks long before he got on the receiving end.
Discussion of moderating a newsgroup is not a forbidden subject.

I remember well when Leneoard was all upset that some regular poster
here decided to meet on 40m CW. Len probably considered his right of
free speech to be violated in that instance. Of course he was wrong.

The fact is that your claim that Jim Miccolis prevented Len from posting
here is utter nonsense. You're becoming well known for nonsense.

The fact is that there are two sides to every story, and you clowns
think you own both. You don't. Get used to it.

That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old
evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented
Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do.

Do you ever tire of being wrong?

Do you ever tire of being an A1 Operator and work out of band Frenchmen
on 6 meters?

Do you?

Why no, Brian, I've never tired of being an A-1 Op. Do you tire of
being one?


I have no certificate from Hiram, suitable for framing. But I do take
pride in my station, my signal, and my operating abilities.

That is admirable.

And if I
were aware that French hams were out of band, I wouldn't be completing
circuits for them nor sending them QSL cards.

It is your right to do so. You may research the band allocations for
each and every DX station you hear, before you actually call them or
respond to them. It will assuredly cut down on the number of contacts
your make, especially in a contest or pileup situation. You should also
bear in mind that nothing in the regulations under which you operate,
mandates that you do so. You are responsible for making sure that your
own signal is where it is supposed to be. If any station I've ever
worked was where he was not supposed to be, he'd likely not be able to
show off a treasured QSL from a rare station which read the exact
frequency of operation (i.e. 50.115 MHz).

Additionally, you can check on the web or by using a callsign database,
to be certain that each domestic station you might contact is where he
or she is supposed to be under the terms of his or her license.

Finally, there is nothing in the regs which makes you responsible for my
station operation either here in the United States, in Tanzania or in
any other country.

I hope that clears things up for you.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

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That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old
evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented
Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do.

Do you ever tire of being wrong?

Do you ever tire of being an A1 Operator and work out of band Frenchmen
on 6 meters?

Do you?

Why no, Brian, I've never tired of being an A-1 Op. Do you tire of
being one?


I have no certificate from Hiram, suitable for framing. But I do take
pride in my station, my signal, and my operating abilities.

That is admirable.

And if I
were aware that French hams were out of band, I wouldn't be completing
circuits for them nor sending them QSL cards.

It is your right to do so. You may research the band allocations for
each and every DX station you hear, before you actually call them or
respond to them. It will assuredly cut down on the number of contacts
your make, especially in a contest or pileup situation. You should also
bear in mind that nothing in the regulations under which you operate,
mandates that you do so. You are responsible for making sure that your
own signal is where it is supposed to be. If any station I've ever
worked was where he was not supposed to be, he'd likely not be able to
show off a treasured QSL from a rare station which read the exact
frequency of operation (i.e. 50.115 MHz).

Additionally, you can check on the web or by using a callsign database,
to be certain that each domestic station you might contact is where he
or she is supposed to be under the terms of his or her license.

Finally, there is nothing in the regs which makes you responsible for my
station operation either here in the United States, in Tanzania or in
any other country.

indeed you spend a page avoiding the issue

I hope that clears things up for you.

very clear

you are a fraud, and lack the moral courage to deal with an issue

Dave K8MN

an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


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That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old
evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented
Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do.

Do you ever tire of being wrong?

Do you ever tire of being an A1 Operator and work out of band Frenchmen
on 6 meters?

Do you?

Why no, Brian, I've never tired of being an A-1 Op. Do you tire of
being one?


I have no certificate from Hiram, suitable for framing. But I do take
pride in my station, my signal, and my operating abilities.

That is admirable.


And if I
were aware that French hams were out of band, I wouldn't be completing
circuits for them nor sending them QSL cards.

It is your right to do so. You may research the band allocations for
each and every DX station you hear, before you actually call them or
respond to them. It will assuredly cut down on the number of contacts
your make, especially in a contest or pileup situation. You should also
bear in mind that nothing in the regulations under which you operate,
mandates that you do so. You are responsible for making sure that your
own signal is where it is supposed to be. If any station I've ever
worked was where he was not supposed to be, he'd likely not be able to
show off a treasured QSL from a rare station which read the exact
frequency of operation (i.e. 50.115 MHz).

Additionally, you can check on the web or by using a callsign database,
to be certain that each domestic station you might contact is where he
or she is supposed to be under the terms of his or her license.

Finally, there is nothing in the regs which makes you responsible for my
station operation either here in the United States, in Tanzania or in
any other country.


indeed you spend a page avoiding the issue

The issue? The issue is waaaaaaay up at the top of the page. To save
you the trouble of going up there to look, it was:


"That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old
evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented
Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do."

It was written by me. Brian's diversion took us down the merry path.

I hope that clears things up for you.


very clear

Duuuuuh, not to you. You managed to hose it up.

you are a fraud, and lack the moral courage to deal with an issue

First, have someone define the issue for you. Then have them explain
its nuances. Seek assistance in formulating a reasoned response and get
your pool of typists post it in English for you.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

Intimidating Leonard H. Anderson? How does one intimidate a piranha?
Len began personal attacks long before he got on the receiving end.
Discussion of moderating a newsgroup is not a forbidden subject.

I remember well when Leneoard was all upset that some regular poster
here decided to meet on 40m CW. Len probably considered his right of
free speech to be violated in that instance. Of course he was wrong.

The fact is that your claim that Jim Miccolis prevented Len from posting
here is utter nonsense. You're becoming well known for nonsense.

The fact is that there are two sides to every story, and you clowns
think you own both. You don't. Get used to it.

That's three things offered by you as fact. Please provide any old
evidence at all that what you've claimed, that Jim Miccolis prevented
Len from presenting his views here. A single instance will do.

Do you ever tire of being wrong?

Do you ever tire of being an A1 Operator and work out of band Frenchmen
on 6 meters?

Do you?

Why no, Brian, I've never tired of being an A-1 Op. Do you tire of
being one?

I have no certificate from Hiram, suitable for framing. But I do take
pride in my station, my signal, and my operating abilities.

That is admirable.

More than that, it's highly recommended.

And if I
were aware that French hams were out of band, I wouldn't be completing
circuits for them nor sending them QSL cards.

It is your right to do so.

Actually, I consider it an obligation.

You may research the band allocations for
each and every DX station you hear, before you actually call them or
respond to them.

Why should I do that? The case in point, your case, was one of French
amateur working completely outside the French Amateur Authorizations by
several *hundred* kilohertz.

But as a matter of record, I have suggested to you several years ago
that you learn the authorizations of the DX countries that you need, so
you'll at least know where to NOT look for them.

It will assuredly cut down on the number of contacts
your make, especially in a contest or pileup situation.

Hi! An out of band contest!!! You crack me up. Not even CQ Magazine
would go for that one!

You should also
bear in mind that nothing in the regulations under which you operate,
mandates that you do so.

Many things are not in the regulations. None-the-less, you should
abide by "Good Amateur Practice." Riley says it's enforceable, and
you're back in America now.

You are responsible for making sure that your
own signal is where it is supposed to be.

Indeed I am. But that completely misses the case in point, your case.

If any station I've ever
worked was where he was not supposed to be, he'd likely not be able to
show off a treasured QSL from a rare station which read the exact
frequency of operation (i.e. 50.115 MHz).

Fair enough. But many DXers merely put down the band. But you're not
many DXers. You have trouble enough being just one.

Additionally, you can check on the web or by using a callsign database,
to be certain that each domestic station you might contact is where he
or she is supposed to be under the terms of his or her license.

Again you evade the case in point. Your case. You didn't just work
hams outside their license class, you were working hams that were
hundreds of kilohertz outside their countries 6M authorization.

Finally, there is nothing in the regs which makes you responsible for my
station operation either here in the United States, in Tanzania or in
any other country.

If I know that you are operating out of band, you can rest assured that
I won't complete the circuit, and you won't be getting one of my QSL
cards.

I hope that clears things up for you.

Dave K8MN

I'm convinced more than ever that given the opportunity to work yet
more out of band Frenchmen, you'd go for it again.

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Dave Heil wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:
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Why no, Brian, I've never tired of being an A-1 Op. Do you tire of
being one?

I have no certificate from Hiram, suitable for framing. But I do take
pride in my station, my signal, and my operating abilities.

That is admirable.

More than that, it's highly recommended.

And if I
were aware that French hams were out of band, I wouldn't be completing
circuits for them nor sending them QSL cards.

It is your right to do so.

Actually, I consider it an obligation.

You may research the band allocations for
each and every DX station you hear, before you actually call them or
respond to them.

Why should I do that? The case in point, your case, was one of French
amateur working completely outside the French Amateur Authorizations by
several *hundred* kilohertz.

But as a matter of record, I have suggested to you several years ago
that you learn the authorizations of the DX countries that you need, so
you'll at least know where to NOT look for them.

It will assuredly cut down on the number of contacts
your make, especially in a contest or pileup situation.

Hi! An out of band contest!!! You crack me up. Not even CQ Magazine
would go for that one!

You should also
bear in mind that nothing in the regulations under which you operate,
mandates that you do so.

Many things are not in the regulations. None-the-less, you should
abide by "Good Amateur Practice." Riley says it's enforceable, and
you're back in America now.

You are responsible for making sure that your
own signal is where it is supposed to be.

Indeed I am. But that completely misses the case in point, your case.

Dave is good at evading the point and talking about everything in sight
and beyond but the point at hand

If any station I've ever
worked was where he was not supposed to be, he'd likely not be able to
show off a treasured QSL from a rare station which read the exact
frequency of operation (i.e. 50.115 MHz).

Fair enough. But many DXers merely put down the band. But you're not
many DXers. You have trouble enough being just one.

Additionally, you can check on the web or by using a callsign database,
to be certain that each domestic station you might contact is where he
or she is supposed to be under the terms of his or her license.

Again you evade the case in point. Your case. You didn't just work
hams outside their license class, you were working hams that were
hundreds of kilohertz outside their countries 6M authorization.

Finally, there is nothing in the regs which makes you responsible for my
station operation either here in the United States, in Tanzania or in
any other country.

If I know that you are operating out of band, you can rest assured that
I won't complete the circuit, and you won't be getting one of my QSL
cards.

I hope that clears things up for you.

Dave K8MN

I'm convinced more than ever that given the opportunity to work yet
more out of band Frenchmen, you'd go for it again.