K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
K4YZ said...
There's no "thin line".
It's either an "information bulletin" or it's broadcasting.

There's a BIG difference between an information bulletin and a
broadcast. A broadcast is directed to the general public as a whole
while an information Bulletin is directed to a small group.

And your opinionated broadcasts are just that...Broadcasts.

Stevie As I recall you sent a tape to FCC. am I right? if so what did
they do

As usual, Markie, you "recall" incorrectly.

then why haven't you done so if you are so sure of yourself?

Oh I forgot what you realy want to rag on him not in fact settle
anything


Once it's "opinonated" it stops being an "information bulletin"
and becomes an editorial. Editorials are broadcasting.

Not necessary, You can get information out of an opinion, it's up to
the person hearing the opinion to determine if he go's along with that
train of thought.A good example is look at court cases, a ruling by a
court is not called a ruling but an opinion. At any rate Society is
based on two input General information and Opinions you can't just have
one.

Todd, The purpose of an "information bulletin" is to provide the
aforementioned "listener" with specific, timely INFORMATION wth which
to make operational decisions as they pertain to his/her Amateur
station...

Where did you get that definition?

Out of your twisted mind no doubt

Nope.

From the opinions of FCC personnel over the years.

must be that secrect font of knowledge that comes from knowing morse
code
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And Todd...Society is ALSO based on specific facts.

such as?

Such as the written law...Such as science...Such as case law...

so cite em

you refuse to cite Case law of written and yet claim ilegality


As far as Amateur bulletins go, they should be timely, CONCISE
bits of information...propagation updates, rules changes by
FCC...operating activity parameters...short term emergency operation
limits...

according to whom?

You it seems

Obviously a LOT more people than me, Markie, since there's been
REAMS of complaints filed on K1MAN, but NONE of them by me.

not at all

it is obvious that a lot of folks don't K1MAN, for what ever reason
(prehaps even good reason) but still where is it stated that " As
far as Amateur bulletins go, they should be timely, CONCISE bits of
information...propagation updates, rules changes by FCC...operating
activity parameters...short term emergency operation limits..."

is anything covered by rules

at least Riley in saying porr ham practice might be actionable
explianed himself

you have just made a pronoucenment.

But an information bulletin has to have INFORMATION in it.
Once tainted by editorialization, it's no longer objective

There is nothing in the FCC rules that stated that, Nor does the FCC
rules state that an Information Bulletin has to be a pure piece of
facts.

Anything LESS than a "pure piece of facts" dilutes the INFORMATION
and thus causes you to DIS-serve the audience you seek to cater to.

according to whom? Never seen the FCC say someting this

The FCC doesn't have to.

it sure as hell does or congress must
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The Definition that YOU have given is the Genreral definition of the
word Information bulletin, However, It is NOT defined in the FCC rules.

Anything LESS than a "pure piece of facts" dilutes the INFORMATION
and thus causes you to DIS-serve the audience you seek to cater to.

The FCC has the power to define what a definition is in the rules, for
example the FCC can stated that an informational bulletin may only be a
bono fide newscast, but that is not what we see here. In other words
the FCC can limit what something is provided it the lease restrictive
means necessary to promote govenment interest.

Todd, you're dancing around here hoping to find some resolute hole
in the rules to justify being a junior disc jockey.

K1MAN is in the hot water he's in today partially because most
Amateurs consider his OPINIONATED, copy-cat bulletins to be

Not accarding the FCC

"according"

Where did I say "according to the FCC", Markie...?!?!

if K1MAN is in hot water for the FCC or Congress MUST say so or it is
just some hams blowing smoke


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rreal facts

"cutting" "real"
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But the FACTS are they AREN'T legal.

according to whom?

You deny it is the FCC haven't claimed it is congress so it can't be
ILLEGAL

And Amateurs have pretty well made it clear that W1AW's bulletins
are more than enough one-way stuff on the Amateur allocations.

So what?

Hams don't make the law, thank god
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So...Markie...Into censorship now?

no I just did not find worth comenting on

I am not required to coment on your every word

My failure to repeat your remarks is not censorship
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