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Old August 27th 05, 02:58 PM
W2DNE
 
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.....why do the US Army Field Manuals provide instructions for setting up
SINGCARS-V radios in CW mode?

https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldier...18/FM24-_9.htm



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Old August 27th 05, 03:08 PM
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W2DNE:

So that no one confuses military radios with amateur hobby radios?

John

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:58:28 +0000, W2DNE wrote:

....why do the US Army Field Manuals provide instructions for setting up
SINGCARS-V radios in CW mode?

https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldier...18/FM24-_9.htm


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Old August 27th 05, 03:09 PM
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W2DNE wrote:

....why do the US Army Field Manuals provide instructions for setting up
SINGCARS-V radios in CW mode?


Because it's not dead, and never will be.
It will just get harder to find and train operatives.

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Old August 27th 05, 03:38 PM
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"W2DNE" wrote in message
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....why do the US Army Field Manuals provide instructions for setting up
SINGCARS-V radios in CW mode?

https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldier...18/FM24-_9.htm


because you have to have something to use when the aliens have invaded and
destroyed all the satellites and cities.


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Old August 27th 05, 04:48 PM
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"W2DNE" wrote in message
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....why do the US Army Field Manuals provide instructions for setting up
SINGCARS-V radios in CW mode?


https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldier...18/FM24-_9.htm



The reality is that the arguements will continue of code vs no code.

Few folks understand that a fair number of hams can send and receive Morse
faster than these folks can type. A surprising number of people cannot type
more than 30 or 40 words per minute; their skill is that they can point and
click with a mouse

Likewise, a number of folks think that typing is outdated. It is, so long
as you only wish to copy and paste other's work and pass it off as your own.
Somehow, if one wishes to actually create an article, it is useful to be
able to type.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA






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Old August 27th 05, 05:03 PM
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Jim:

You should fully investigate "text-to-speech" and "speech-to-text"; typing
is indeed becoming as extinct as the dodo bird (and cw.)

Frankly, keyboards are probably only as prevalent as they are for much the
same reasons as cw--humans are creatures of habit, the newest generations
probably will kill the keyboard...

John

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:48:35 +0000, Jim Hampton wrote:


"W2DNE" wrote in message
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....why do the US Army Field Manuals provide instructions for setting up
SINGCARS-V radios in CW mode?


https://atiam.train.army.mil/soldier...18/FM24-_9.htm



The reality is that the arguements will continue of code vs no code.

Few folks understand that a fair number of hams can send and receive Morse
faster than these folks can type. A surprising number of people cannot type
more than 30 or 40 words per minute; their skill is that they can point and
click with a mouse

Likewise, a number of folks think that typing is outdated. It is, so long
as you only wish to copy and paste other's work and pass it off as your own.
Somehow, if one wishes to actually create an article, it is useful to be
able to type.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


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Old August 27th 05, 06:11 PM
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Jim:

You should fully investigate "text-to-speech" and "speech-to-text"; typing
is indeed becoming as extinct as the dodo bird (and cw.)

Frankly, keyboards are probably only as prevalent as they are for much the
same reasons as cw--humans are creatures of habit, the newest generations
probably will kill the keyboard...

John


Hello, John

Well, I guess I've got to admit that I might be getting stumped.

How do I use speach to text to write programs in Visual Basic or C? Can the
program understand the difference between "to", "too", and "two"?

Don't worry as the China will probably do your work for you


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


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Old August 27th 05, 07:08 PM
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Jim:

It is only necessary to create the association between any spoken word and
the series of characters you wish to generate when that word is spoken,
into a library of such associations...

In other words, if I speak "the" and make the association to the
characters "t-h-e" the speech to text engine will always generate those
characters when I speak that specific word--I could just as easily
associate the spoken "the" with any other series of characters.

Now, while you and I might not go to that trouble if we are fast typists,
others who do not type will... those who are blind will... companies and
corps will (and especially those employing disabled workers.) I have seen
such libraries on the net for specific uses, such as programming, before.
You most likely can download one for the speech engine in question...

There are groups devoted to the blind who could easily supply you with
them, I am sure...

John

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:11:42 +0000, Jim Hampton wrote:


"John Smith" wrote in message
news
Jim:

You should fully investigate "text-to-speech" and "speech-to-text"; typing
is indeed becoming as extinct as the dodo bird (and cw.)

Frankly, keyboards are probably only as prevalent as they are for much the
same reasons as cw--humans are creatures of habit, the newest generations
probably will kill the keyboard...

John


Hello, John

Well, I guess I've got to admit that I might be getting stumped.

How do I use speach to text to write programs in Visual Basic or C? Can the
program understand the difference between "to", "too", and "two"?

Don't worry as the China will probably do your work for you


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


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Old August 27th 05, 08:55 PM
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Jim:

It is only necessary to create the association between any spoken word and
the series of characters you wish to generate when that word is spoken,
into a library of such associations...

In other words, if I speak "the" and make the association to the
characters "t-h-e" the speech to text engine will always generate those
characters when I speak that specific word--I could just as easily
associate the spoken "the" with any other series of characters.

Now, while you and I might not go to that trouble if we are fast typists,
others who do not type will... those who are blind will... companies and
corps will (and especially those employing disabled workers.) I have seen
such libraries on the net for specific uses, such as programming, before.
You most likely can download one for the speech engine in question...

There are groups devoted to the blind who could easily supply you with
them, I am sure...

John


Hello, John

You have an idea that is remiss in a thought or two. One of my friends I
have known for years is blind. He types. You do *not* have to see in order
to type. I need not (and usually do not) look at the keyboard. In fact, I
never look at the keyboard. Once you know where the home keys are, you
don't need to see. In fact, check and see if your "f" and "j" keys have
little bumps on them to assist you in finding the home keys. Amazing, ain't
it LOL

I learned grade 1.5 Braille when I was a teenager. I used a Braille slate,
although it is far easier to use a Braille writer. My friend has a text to
speach translator. They work quite well and are great for his e-mail, but
speach to text has a problem.

This brings to mind a simple diddy:
Rockabye homonym, on the tree top
when the wind blows, the homonym will rock
and when the bow breaks, the homonym will fall
and down comes your arguement, homonym and all.
takes a bough

As you can see, I might associate "to" with the letters "t" and "o" combined
for one word. Unfortunately, when I wish to add the word "two", I will see
that the spoken word is already associated with the word "to". Too big a
problem, I suspect. Woops, there just went another too, too - or is that
tu-tu?

Further, how does one do addresses? I want the numbers to be stated as one
block, with no commas should the address be something like 1600 Pennsylvania
Avenue. Of course, no one is usually there at 1600 Pennsylvania avenue, but
the arguement seems solid. I can't even use "my address" as two words come
out rather than my street address - heaven help me if I want to add my
e-mail address. Will "at" appear as "at" or "@"? Will ampersand appear as
"ampersand" or "@"? Suppose I wish to use the word in a sentence?

If you can't speak, you could always be in a restaurant with a lap-top with
text to speach and type in "blew cheese dressing, please" and it sounds
perfectly proper, despite the error in spelling. However, it doesn't work
in the other direction. Now you have a spelling and/or context problem.

Hope you understand my point


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



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Old August 29th 05, 07:30 AM
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John Smith wrote:
Jim:

It is only necessary to create the association between any spoken word and
the series of characters you wish to generate when that word is spoken,
into a library of such associations...

In other words, if I speak "the" and make the association to the
characters "t-h-e" the speech to text engine will always generate those
characters when I speak that specific word--I could just as easily
associate the spoken "the" with any other series of characters.

Now, while you and I might not go to that trouble if we are fast typists,
others who do not type will... those who are blind will... companies and
corps will (and especially those employing disabled workers.) I have seen
such libraries on the net for specific uses, such as programming, before.
You most likely can download one for the speech engine in question...

There are groups devoted to the blind who could easily supply you with
them, I am sure...

John


Too many words in the English language that are pronounced the same but
spelled differently for speech-to-text to work very well.

Know-no, new-knew, see-sea, I-eye, nose-knows, sail-sale, to-two-too-tu
tu, seem-seam, Sue-sue (name vs litigation), cheep-cheap, but-butt,
ect., ect., ect.

A speech-to-text probgram would have to be able to put the words into
context. Probably doable to some level.


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