From: on Sep 18, 2:02 pm

Alun L. Palmer wrote:

Len is transfixed on this issue, I suspect it's because he
really wants a
ham licence, despite his protestations to the contrary.

I'm afraid you're mistaken about Len wanting a license, Alun.

Why are you afraid? Fear is a negative attribute.

If Len really wanted a ham license, he could have had a Technician at
any time since February 1991 with no code test at all.

Actually, I could have gone to the Food and Drug Adminstration
for a REAL ham license.

By definition, "ham" is the butchered meat of swine. :-)

If Len really wanted a ham license other than Technician,
he could have gotten any class of license with only a 5 wpm
code test at any time since 1990. From 1990 to 2000 he would
have needed a waiver, but after 2000 he would have needed no
waiver at all.

So could everyone at the Federal Communications Commission.
The FCC *makes* the regulations covering amateur radio.
Really. [it's in the Communications Act of 1934] But,
the Act does not require staff or Commissioners to hold
ANY radio licenses of their own! Unbelievable but true!

Len posted here more than once that he "knew Morse", having
allegedly learned it in the mid 1950s up to about 8 wpm. But
then, according to his post, he gave up and went on to other
things.

Tsk, you don't seem to believe everything you read...taking
some posts as "factual" while making other posts very Jesuit
in "once declared, it is a life goal!" :-)

Back on January 19, 2000, Len said he was "going for Extra right out of
the box" but hasn't gotten a license in the 5 years and 8 months since.
That was the *only* time I ever saw him say he was going to get an
amateur radio license.

Jimmie, BEFORE then I stated that my goal was to just eliminate
the code test from federal regulations. [you glossed over that,
preferring to highlight some artificial "life goal promises"]

I got a First 'Phone (Commercial) license 49 years ago, never
took a vow or promised to get one, just did it. Should I have
"posted bans" on that? [I didn't]

I once took and oath to defend the Constitution of the United
States "...with my life if need be..." way back 53 years ago in
Chicago. I didn't have to DO that but I was ready. Have you
done anything like that, Jimmie?

I once took a vow, in front of many witnesses, to be a true and
faithful husband to my wife (who repeated the vow to me), even
had that officially recorded with authorities. I mean to KEEP
that vow/promise as long as we shall live. Have you done
anything like that, Jimmie?

Do you consider a throwaway remark I made about a HOBBY to be
MORE SERIOUS than the two oaths/vows I mentioned? Apparantly so!

If the code test is totally removed, Len *may* get a license. But
don't count on it.

I don't see anyone at the FCC "going for a ham license" in
order to *regulate* ham radio.

Why don't you go complain to THEM?

Gosh, for all of 71 years (!) the FCC has had the unmitigated
GALL to think they coould regulate and ENFORCE amateur radio
in the USA *without* requiring any staff or Commissioner to
hold an amateur radio license grant! :-)

Ask yourself why someone who wanted a ham license, and who allegedly
knew enough to pass the tests, would not go for one. Particularly over
the course of more than 15 years.

ERROR! You are OFF by 40 years Jimmie. :-)

[I have mention of that in my high school annual/yearbook...:-)]

[it's been printed with real ink on real paper]

I think Len has everything he wants from ham radio right here
on rrap. No license, no propagation troubles, no station or antenna to
assemble, no radio skills needed.

I think Jimmie has everything he wants from ham radio right here
in newsgroups...no propagation "troubles," no station or antenna
to assemble, no radio skills needed to sit around and negatively
criticize each and every person who doesn't share his opinions.

That's utterly predictable. :-)