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Old September 10th 05, 05:02 PM
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==AMATEUR RADIO VOLUNTEERS FILLING COMMUNICATION GAPS IN GULF REGION

Hundreds of Amateur Radio operators from the Gulf Coast and elsewhere in the
US continue to volunteer their skills and expertise as the Hurricane Katrina
relief effort heads into its third week. ARRL Section Managers (SMs) and
Section Emergency Coordinators (SECs) across and around the affected region
have been teleconferencing daily to keep their efforts on the same page. In
the field, Amateur Radio Emergency Service (ARES) and other volunteers are
assisting as needed to support communication for relief agencies as well as
for state and local government and even the Federal Emergency Management
Agency (FEMA). Louisiana SEC Gary Stratton, K5GLS, says Amateur Radio was
the only means for state officials at the state emergency operations center
(EOC) in Baton Rouge to communicate earlier this week with the so-called
"Florida parishes" above Lake Pontchartrain.

"We have had praise from one end of Louisiana to the other about Amateur
Radio operators," Stratton said. "There was a communication to the EOC in
Baton Rouge from FEMA that said, 'Ham radio is our prime communications with
you, and they should get anything they need,' so FEMA recognizes the
importance of ham radio." He also recounted how state officials arriving at
the EOC were using ham radio to get through to their hard-hit parishes.

A marshaling center has been established in Covington, Louisiana. ARES has
been continuing to support Red Cross shelter and Southern Baptist Convention
debris-clearing in St Tammany parish, as well as Baptist Men's Kitchen
canteen operations. In Washington Parish, ARES volunteers--including more
than a dozen from South Texas--have been providing critical communication
among hospitals and the parish EOC, among other functions. Field teams were
continuing to use HF to maintain communication with the EOC in Baton
Rouge............................................. .........
snip
This comes from www.arrl.org and its "ARRL Letter. I call attention to the
quotes by FEMA officials and others as tp the necessity and vitality of
Amateur Radio to the relief effort in the aftermath of Katrina. Yes, it is
from a publication dedicated to Amateur Radio itself, but I also invite
readers to go to the site and read the entire article AND the part where the
National Guard borrowed equipment from HAMS WHEN THEIRS WOULDN'T WORK!!!!!!
THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE A M A T E U R R A D I O WAS, AND STILL IS, THE O
N L Y means of commuications into and out of various Louisiana
parishes!!!!!!!!!!!! The O N L Y communications. Period!

Again, it doesn't matter how MUCH ham radio contributes, but that it IS
contributing in VITAL ways and, in some cases, is the ONLY communications.
Period. HAHAHAHA!

We can deny, denigrate, belittle, downrate Amateur radio all you like, but
facts is facts. I am sitting here LISTENING to HF ham radio traffic of all
kinds from the stricken area. A lot of it sounds important to ME, but then
what do I know? *I* am not the ones (Lenny) in denial!

Jerry


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Old September 10th 05, 10:26 PM
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"Jerry" wrote in message
...

==AMATEUR RADIO VOLUNTEERS FILLING COMMUNICATION GAPS IN GULF REGION

Hundreds of Amateur Radio operators from the Gulf Coast and elsewhere in
the
US continue to volunteer their skills and expertise as the Hurricane
Katrina
relief effort heads into its third week. ARRL Section Managers (SMs) and
Section Emergency Coordinators (SECs) across and around the affected
region
have been teleconferencing daily to keep their efforts on the same page.
In
the field, Amateur Radio Emergency Service (ARES) and other volunteers are
assisting as needed to support communication for relief agencies as well
as
for state and local government and even the Federal Emergency Management
Agency (FEMA). Louisiana SEC Gary Stratton, K5GLS, says Amateur Radio was
the only means for state officials at the state emergency operations
center
(EOC) in Baton Rouge to communicate earlier this week with the so-called
"Florida parishes" above Lake Pontchartrain.

"We have had praise from one end of Louisiana to the other about Amateur
Radio operators," Stratton said. "There was a communication to the EOC in
Baton Rouge from FEMA that said, 'Ham radio is our prime communications
with
you, and they should get anything they need,' so FEMA recognizes the
importance of ham radio." He also recounted how state officials arriving
at
the EOC were using ham radio to get through to their hard-hit parishes.

A marshaling center has been established in Covington, Louisiana. ARES has
been continuing to support Red Cross shelter and Southern Baptist
Convention
debris-clearing in St Tammany parish, as well as Baptist Men's Kitchen
canteen operations. In Washington Parish, ARES volunteers--including more
than a dozen from South Texas--have been providing critical communication
among hospitals and the parish EOC, among other functions. Field teams
were
continuing to use HF to maintain communication with the EOC in Baton
Rouge............................................. .........
snip
This comes from www.arrl.org and its "ARRL Letter. I call attention to
the quotes by FEMA officials and others as tp the necessity and vitality
of Amateur Radio to the relief effort in the aftermath of Katrina. Yes,
it is from a publication dedicated to Amateur Radio itself, but I also
invite readers to go to the site and read the entire article AND the part
where the National Guard borrowed equipment from HAMS WHEN THEIRS WOULDN'T
WORK!!!!!! THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE A M A T E U R R A D I O WAS, AND
STILL IS, THE O N L Y means of commuications into and out of various
Louisiana parishes!!!!!!!!!!!! The O N L Y communications. Period!

Again, it doesn't matter how MUCH ham radio contributes, but that it IS
contributing in VITAL ways and, in some cases, is the ONLY communications.
Period. HAHAHAHA!

We can deny, denigrate, belittle, downrate Amateur radio all you like, but
facts is facts. I am sitting here LISTENING to HF ham radio traffic of all
kinds from the stricken area. A lot of it sounds important to ME, but
then what do I know? *I* am not the ones (Lenny) in denial!

Jerry


Neither he, nor the old goofball believe the ARRL. This is all a big ploy
to make hams look better according to the old goof. Lennie is strangly
quiet these days. Guess his life long hate of Amateur Radio doing good
things must have him all upset.

Dan/W4NTI


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Old September 10th 05, 11:20 PM
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Jerry wrote:
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We can deny, denigrate, belittle, downrate Amateur radio all you like, but
facts is facts. I am sitting here LISTENING to HF ham radio traffic of all
kinds from the stricken area. A lot of it sounds important to ME, but then
what do I know? *I* am not the ones (Lenny) in denial!


the proof of the statements of Len and myself is in your title "Proof
of the Necessity of Amatuer Radio"

using proof and necessity mean you blow the truth right of the water

if you had choosen instead the "Importance of the ARS"

literaly how many more people would DIE without the ARS (and how do you
sdetermeine that without asking question about the operations?

IMO and in Lens I believe there is a difference between vital and
merely important

Jerry


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Old September 11th 05, 12:07 AM
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:26:20 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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==AMATEUR RADIO VOLUNTEERS FILLING COMMUNICATION GAPS IN GULF REGION

Hundreds of Amateur Radio operators from the Gulf Coast and elsewhere in
the
US continue to volunteer their skills and expertise as the Hurricane
Katrina
relief effort heads into its third week. ARRL Section Managers (SMs) and
Section Emergency Coordinators (SECs) across and around the affected
region
have been teleconferencing daily to keep their efforts on the same page.
In
the field, Amateur Radio Emergency Service (ARES) and other volunteers are
assisting as needed to support communication for relief agencies as well
as
for state and local government and even the Federal Emergency Management
Agency (FEMA). Louisiana SEC Gary Stratton, K5GLS, says Amateur Radio was
the only means for state officials at the state emergency operations
center
(EOC) in Baton Rouge to communicate earlier this week with the so-called
"Florida parishes" above Lake Pontchartrain.

"We have had praise from one end of Louisiana to the other about Amateur
Radio operators," Stratton said. "There was a communication to the EOC in
Baton Rouge from FEMA that said, 'Ham radio is our prime communications
with
you, and they should get anything they need,' so FEMA recognizes the
importance of ham radio." He also recounted how state officials arriving
at
the EOC were using ham radio to get through to their hard-hit parishes.

A marshaling center has been established in Covington, Louisiana. ARES has
been continuing to support Red Cross shelter and Southern Baptist
Convention
debris-clearing in St Tammany parish, as well as Baptist Men's Kitchen
canteen operations. In Washington Parish, ARES volunteers--including more
than a dozen from South Texas--have been providing critical communication
among hospitals and the parish EOC, among other functions. Field teams
were
continuing to use HF to maintain communication with the EOC in Baton
Rouge............................................. .........
snip
This comes from www.arrl.org and its "ARRL Letter. I call attention to
the quotes by FEMA officials and others as tp the necessity and vitality
of Amateur Radio to the relief effort in the aftermath of Katrina. Yes,
it is from a publication dedicated to Amateur Radio itself, but I also
invite readers to go to the site and read the entire article AND the part
where the National Guard borrowed equipment from HAMS WHEN THEIRS WOULDN'T
WORK!!!!!! THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE A M A T E U R R A D I O WAS, AND
STILL IS, THE O N L Y means of commuications into and out of various
Louisiana parishes!!!!!!!!!!!! The O N L Y communications. Period!

Again, it doesn't matter how MUCH ham radio contributes, but that it IS
contributing in VITAL ways and, in some cases, is the ONLY communications.
Period. HAHAHAHA!

We can deny, denigrate, belittle, downrate Amateur radio all you like, but
facts is facts. I am sitting here LISTENING to HF ham radio traffic of all
kinds from the stricken area. A lot of it sounds important to ME, but
then what do I know? *I* am not the ones (Lenny) in denial!

Jerry


Neither he, nor the old goofball believe the ARRL. This is all a big ploy
to make hams look better according to the old goof. Lennie is strangly
quiet these days. Guess his life long hate of Amateur Radio doing good
things must have him all upset.



Or maybe he's busy actually doing something to help the effort, unlike
the few lame wannabes like you who do nothing but boast about your
accomplishments when you haven't accomplished squat. Some hams did
indeed make a great contribution. But -you- don't get to take credit
for -their- individual efforts by virtue of your license. If you want
to brag then -you- do something worth bragging about. Then, when it's
all over, we'll all look back and see who really deserves recognition
for their contribution. And it won't be you, Dan.








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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:26:20 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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Again, it doesn't matter how MUCH ham radio contributes, but that it IS
contributing in VITAL ways and, in some cases, is the ONLY communications.
Period. HAHAHAHA!


We can deny, denigrate, belittle, downrate Amateur radio all you like, but
facts is facts. I am sitting here LISTENING to HF ham radio traffic of all
kinds from the stricken area. A lot of it sounds important to ME, but
then what do I know? *I* am not the ones (Lenny) in denial!


Jerry [Oxendine]


Neither he, nor the old goofball believe the ARRL. This is all a big ploy
to make hams look better according to the old goof. Lennie is strangly
quiet these days. Guess his life long hate of Amateur Radio doing good
things must have him all upset.


Or maybe he's busy actually doing something to help the effort, unlike
the few lame wannabes like you who do nothing but boast about your
accomplishments when you haven't accomplished squat.


I diasgree with that, Frank. I think Dan and Jerry HAVE squatted
a lot in here. :-)

Some of their squat products are things like "if you don't agree
with ME, you HATE HAM RADIO!" :-)

What I do for any hurricane/flood relief aid is my business. I
don't need any "bragging rights" stated to make me secure.
Others brag and, as you point out, are waving their self-
patriotic flags for themselves by associating others' good
deeds with their own hobby.

Some hams did
indeed make a great contribution. But -you- don't get to take credit
for -their- individual efforts by virtue of your license.


Oh, ohhh! Frank, if you don't like Dan's bragging, he gonna say
"you HATE HAM RADIO!"

If you want to brag then -you- do something worth bragging about.


He is. He be cutting-and-pasting ARRL "official news" and posting
it in here. Of course, anyone who can access Google can also access
www.arrl.org, get the same stuff direct. :-)

Dan's concept of "doing something" involves being a cheerleader
and cussing out others who don't agree with him. Dan IS ham
radio! Disagree with him and you HATE HAM RADIO!!! :-)

Then, when it's
all over, we'll all look back and see who really deserves recognition
for their contribution. And it won't be you, Dan.


You mean I can't send all those Medals of Valor for Amateur
Communications to Dan? I had this very nice Ceremony planned.
Marching bands, bugle corps, drum majorettes, and plenty of flags.
It was going to be in northern New Orleans. They seem to have
some trouble with water or whatever. Need wading boots to be on
the parade ground. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Remember also that Jerry Oxendine IS ham radio. Disagree with
him and he'll say you HATE HAM RADIO!!! :-)





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Frank Gilliland wrote:



Then, when it's
all over, we'll all look back and see who really deserves recognition
for their contribution. And it won't be you, Dan.


Don't give a rip. If I wanted some kind of a "reward" I would be a
politician. I'm a worker bee, and a trained and experienced one at that.

How bout you? What training and Experience do you bring to ECOM?

Dan/W4NTI




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Old September 11th 05, 11:10 PM
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Frank Gilliland wrote:


Or maybe he's busy actually doing something to help the effort, unlike
the few lame wannabes like you who do nothing but boast about your
accomplishments when you haven't accomplished squat. Some hams did
indeed make a great contribution. But -you- don't get to take credit
for -their- individual efforts by virtue of your license. If you want
to brag then -you- do something worth bragging about.


The hams have no need to brag, the media and emergency officials are
doing pleanty of bragging about the role ham radio is playing in this
disaster.

Haven't heard them brag about any of the "ten fer thar, we
is-a-standing-by thar ten fer" cb crowd yet.

Then, when it's
all over, we'll all look back and see who really deserves recognition
for their contribution. And it won't be you, Dan.


And you and your CeeBee have done what to help so far Frankieboy?
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:



Then, when it's
all over, we'll all look back and see who really deserves recognition
for their contribution. And it won't be you, Dan.


Don't give a rip. If I wanted some kind of a "reward" I would be a
politician. I'm a worker bee, and a trained and experienced one at that.

How bout you? What training and Experience do you bring to ECOM?


ah yes the ****ing contest again SoP for the elite

Dan/W4NTI


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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:37:59 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
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Frank Gilliland wrote:



Then, when it's
all over, we'll all look back and see who really deserves recognition
for their contribution. And it won't be you, Dan.


Don't give a rip. If I wanted some kind of a "reward" I would be a
politician. I'm a worker bee, and a trained and experienced one at that.



You are also a braggart.


How bout you? What training and Experience do you bring to ECOM?



More than you.









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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:



Then, when it's
all over, we'll all look back and see who really deserves recognition
for their contribution. And it won't be you, Dan.


Don't give a rip. If I wanted some kind of a "reward" I would be a
politician. I'm a worker bee, and a trained and experienced one at
that.

How bout you? What training and Experience do you bring to ECOM?


ah yes the ****ing contest again SoP for the elite

Dan/W4NTI



No ****in contest. Just a question. Your the one bad mouthing ham radio.
Just what are your credentials?

Dan/W4NTI



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