From: Dave Heil on Nov 1, 8:38 pm

wrote:
From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:


Now, lay YOURS out on the table and see who takes a knife to it.

That slipped my mind. Len has taken numerous shots at my Air Force
service in Vietnam, though he doesn't seem to know what it is that I did
there.

It's not what you did there. What you didn't do in Vietnam appears to
have defined your time there. You were a frustrated amateur in Vietnam
which caused you to under go a career change.

What DID Heil DO in Vietnam? He's never been anymore specific
than Dudly the Imposter (of the "seven hostile actions").

I see the sentence with my name in it. I see the sentence which follows
it. That is typical of your behavior.

Heil did NOT answer the question. Heil did NOT supply any
details of what he did with a MARS thing in Tan Son Nhut.

Tsk, that too is "typical" of Heil's remarks in here. :-(


Damifino. Heil just hasn't been specifc about it. Can't
"take shots" at something invisible. :-)

Then again, you have already done so on a number of occasions. :-) :-)

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Heil have a guilty conscience?


Poor Davie has forgotten my quoting from the Army Center for
Military History which mentions the good morale service that
Army MARS did in Vietnam.

I've forgotten, have I? What're you, Madame Cleo?
I was never assigned to a MARS unit anywhere, anytime in the military.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Maybe Bob Hope never did a USO show at Tan
Son Nhut? :-)


I'm pretty certain that Len Anderson thinks he's somehow involved in
amateur radio too.

Pity the FCC then...they regulate and enforce ALL civil radio
in the United States, including amateur radio. Absolutely
none of the staff nor commissioners are required to be granted
any amateur radio license in order to regulate and enforce.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...I'm just trying to eliminate the morse code test
from United States amateur radio regulations. According to the
United States Constitution (First Amendment), all citizens have
the RIGHT to free speech in the USA.


Just the same, the 8235th Army Unit (that I was in) never
allowed any Tokyo territory to fall into communist hands! :-)
At the same time, that same battalion of signalmen were
moving message "traffic" at the rate of 220 thousand a month
over the Army Command and Administrative Network (later
integrated into the DCS or Defense Communications System),
a worldwide network. All with TTY. Not a single morse code
link in that system since 1948.

It took an entire battalion of signalmen to do that, Len? All this
time, I was under the impression that you did it all by yourself.

Tsk, tsk. Davie can't "impress" people as he wishes.

I've never said what you think I did. I explained it several
times...but your mind can't grasp that, can it?

I explained that station ADA was operating "24/7" meaning (in
colloquial use) around-the-clock, every day of the week. You
said that "was never done." It was. It was done on a FAR
LARGER scale than any MARS facility anywhere. ADA did carry
MARS TTY traffic on a second-priority basis when the primary
circuit wasn't busy.

I explained the RESPONSIBILITY of team leaders in keeping the
transmitters up and operating, one part of the entire operation,
but you insist on word-twisting to suit your savage beast
within that wants to fight. All you wish to do is denigrate
anyone who did MORE in REAL HF radio than you did. Tsk, tsk.


James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country").

Fine. I don't want to deflate his ego but when I saw a post from "RST
Engineering" signed "Jim", it meant nothing to me. I never heard of it
or him.

Tsk, tsk. Jim Weir has posted in here for several years.

That YOU didn't notice that is not my concern.

YOU seem to "notice" only those posts where you can engage
in word fights with your "opponents." Down, big warrior.


He ran for
Governor of California, had his picture in the L.A. Times as one
of many candidates. [a former Austrian citizen won the election]

No doubt Jim's charm, as evidence here, was a factor.

Davie said, sarcasm dripping down his chin like alien slime...


I sent Jim Weir one of my computer programs (LCie4, synthesis and
analysis of passive-component inductor-capacitor filters) and he
stated that this (freeware) program has been used by his students
(successfully) in Grass Valley. We had some brief e-mail exchages
that resulted in my modifying the older LCie program to fit the
DOS 7 in newer Windows. LCie was written in MS FORTRAN 5.1 but on
an earlier operating system and that (now unsupported by MS)
FORTRAN did not have the compiler links to fit DOS 7. LCie4 runs
only under DOS, doesn't have the flash, dash, or pizazz of color
Windows but is nonetheless accurate and proven. It is freeware
to anyone requesting it...something I mentioned in rec.radio.
amateur.homebrew some time ago.

That's nice.

Damn straight. LCie4 IS a very nice program for quickly and
accurately synthesizing (designing) and analyzing a passive L-C
filter of lowpass, highpass, bandpass, or bandstop configuration.
The user can optionally change component values, modify Q of
inductors or capacitors, do printouts of schematics or analysis
results (or store them in a file), analyze input and output
impedances in lieu of normal decibel insertion loss, phase change,
or group delay. It's been proven in real hardware results that
came out exactly as predicted.


RST Engineering makes some neat electronics for general aviation
aircraft. RST has a nice website if anyone cares to look.

I looked at the web site. It isn't particularly nice. If one orders
online, the payment information isn't even sent securely.

You aren't involved in general aviation. You have NO business
with general aviation let alone private flying. Why are YOU
being critical of something you aren't even close to being
involved in?

Why are YOU being critical of someone else's website to ME?

You don't even live in California. You have NO business with
any California elections of any kind. Why do you give a ****
of any elections of governors in California or state politics?

One
of the neat things they do is what I would term "SURFACE MOUNT
VHF antennas" for aircraft fabric surfaces. :-) Neat! They
don't stick out in the airstream and thus have minimal drag.
[international civil aviation band is 108 to 137 MHz]

I've not noted many fabric surfaces on the aircraft I've seen in recent
decades.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. There are tens of thousands of general aviation
aircraft having "fabric" covering in United States registry
alone. That YOU "haven't seen them" doesn't mean they exist.
In a half hour's drive from my residence, I can go to two major
airports and one air park that have well over a thousand such
"fabric" covered aircraft.

You said nothing about "surface mounting," indicating you are
unable to perceive any humor (as in "SMD" now the common method
of electronics hardware construction) or the fact that MOST of
a general aviation aircraft structure UNDER the skin is largely
empty. Any antenna can thus be mounted on the surface of a
non-conductive skin and be largely unaffected on characteristics
in that position. Rather basic EM theory involved there, but
meaningless to those who will not bother to think about basic
radio theory.

Thanks for providing the information on the aircraft band.
Perhaps nobody here knew where the band could be found.

YOU have NO BUSINESS with general aviation concerns, are NOT
INVOLVED. It is no surprise that those who are NOT INVOLVED
would be ignorant of technical details. Amateur radio is NOT
INVOLVED with the international civil aviation band in VHF or
the specific frequencies for that in the HF spectrum.

If you have any more questions, don't be afraid to show your
ignorance. You haven't yet.

With warmest, best regards,

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Nov 1, 8:38 pm


wrote:

From: on Oct 31, 4:52 pm

Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

RST Engineering wrote:



Now, lay YOURS out on the table and see who takes a knife to it.

That slipped my mind. Len has taken numerous shots at my Air Force
service in Vietnam, though he doesn't seem to know what it is that I did
there.

It's not what you did there. What you didn't do in Vietnam appears to
have defined your time there. You were a frustrated amateur in Vietnam
which caused you to under go a career change.

What DID Heil DO in Vietnam? He's never been anymore specific
than Dudly the Imposter (of the "seven hostile actions").

I see the sentence with my name in it. I see the sentence which follows
it. That is typical of your behavior.


Heil did NOT answer the question.

No, I didn't, did I? You routinely ignore questions asked of you.

Heil did NOT supply any
details of what he did with a MARS thing in Tan Son Nhut.

I knew of no MARS thing. I've stated here that I spent time operating a
MARS station in my off duty time.

Tsk, that too is "typical" of Heil's remarks in here. :-(

Tsk. If you'd like to find out more about USAF MARS operation in
Vietnam, feel free to search a few web sites, do a cut and paste job and
post a lengthy treatise on the subject as if it were your own work.
That'd be typical of your remarks in here. :-(


Damifino. Heil just hasn't been specifc about it. Can't
"take shots" at something invisible. :-)

Then again, you have already done so on a number of occasions. :-) :-)


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Heil have a guilty conscience?

Why would I have a guilty conscience over what you do?


Poor Davie has forgotten my quoting from the Army Center for
Military History which mentions the good morale service that
Army MARS did in Vietnam.

I've forgotten, have I? What're you, Madame Cleo?
I was never assigned to a MARS unit anywhere, anytime in the military.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Maybe Bob Hope never did a USO show at Tan
Son Nhut? :-)

Bob Hope? Did he operate a MARS station in his spare time?



I'm pretty certain that Len Anderson thinks he's somehow involved in
amateur radio too.


Pity the FCC then...they regulate and enforce ALL civil radio
in the United States, including amateur radio. Absolutely
none of the staff nor commissioners are required to be granted
any amateur radio license in order to regulate and enforce.

You keep confusing yourself with those paid to regulate amateur radio
and with those who participate in amateur radio. You're neither.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...I'm just trying to eliminate the morse code test
from United States amateur radio regulations.

You surely are. I saw all six of your submissions to the FCC on 05-235.
For what possible purpose have you fixated on morse code testing in
something in which you have no stake?

According to the
United States Constitution (First Amendment), all citizens have
the RIGHT to free speech in the USA.

A RIGHT isn't the same as an OBLIGATION. You spoke six time more than I
on 05-235. Are you supposed to be more entitled to speak?



Just the same, the 8235th Army Unit (that I was in) never
allowed any Tokyo territory to fall into communist hands! :-)
At the same time, that same battalion of signalmen were
moving message "traffic" at the rate of 220 thousand a month
over the Army Command and Administrative Network (later
integrated into the DCS or Defense Communications System),
a worldwide network. All with TTY. Not a single morse code
link in that system since 1948.

It took an entire battalion of signalmen to do that, Len? All this
time, I was under the impression that you did it all by yourself.


Tsk, tsk. Davie can't "impress" people as he wishes.

Tskity tasket. You created the impression.

I've never said what you think I did. I explained it several
times...but your mind can't grasp that, can it?

I explained that station ADA was operating "24/7" meaning (in
colloquial use) around-the-clock, every day of the week. You
said that "was never done." It was.

A Google search will review that you've been less than truthful. You
maintained that *you*, Leonard H. Anderson, had worked 24/7. You
didn't. Nobody can work 24/7. Would you like to see your words again,
in the interests of clarity?

It was done on a FAR
LARGER scale than any MARS facility anywhere. ADA did carry
MARS TTY traffic on a second-priority basis when the primary
circuit wasn't busy.

Why are you suddenly fixated on MARS traffic?

I explained the RESPONSIBILITY of team leaders in keeping the
transmitters up and operating, one part of the entire operation,
but you insist on word-twisting to suit your savage beast
within that wants to fight.

Were you a team leader, Len? Are you still claiming that you worked 24
hours per day, seven days per week in any single week at any time, anywhere?

All you wish to do is denigrate
anyone who did MORE in REAL HF radio than you did. Tsk, tsk.

Do you believe that you have more experience in HF radio operation than
I? Tsk, tsk and a couple of poor baby's thrown in.

James Weir runs RST Engineering. It is located in Grass Valley,
CA, in Nevada County (California's "gold country").

Fine. I don't want to deflate his ego but when I saw a post from "RST
Engineering" signed "Jim", it meant nothing to me. I never heard of it
or him.


Tsk, tsk. Jim Weir has posted in here for several years.

Funny, I don't remember seeing a post from "RST Engineering" until quite
recently.

That YOU didn't notice that is not my concern.

No, it isn't. So tell me, why are you concerning yourself with it?

YOU seem to "notice" only those posts where you can engage
in word fights with your "opponents." Down, big warrior.

If what you've stated is correct, then how'd I get into exchange with
somebody named Jim Weir, whom you've said I didn't notice?


He ran for
Governor of California, had his picture in the L.A. Times as one
of many candidates. [a former Austrian citizen won the election]

No doubt Jim's charm, as evidence here, was a factor.


Davie said, sarcasm dripping down his chin like alien slime...

Davie? Well, Lennie, my comment was meant to be sarcastic. I don't
know anything about alien slime though. That's quite an active
imagination you have.



I sent Jim Weir one of my computer programs (LCie4, synthesis and
analysis of passive-component inductor-capacitor filters) and he
stated that this (freeware) program has been used by his students
(successfully) in Grass Valley. We had some brief e-mail exchages
that resulted in my modifying the older LCie program to fit the
DOS 7 in newer Windows. LCie was written in MS FORTRAN 5.1 but on
an earlier operating system and that (now unsupported by MS)
FORTRAN did not have the compiler links to fit DOS 7. LCie4 runs
only under DOS, doesn't have the flash, dash, or pizazz of color
Windows but is nonetheless accurate and proven. It is freeware
to anyone requesting it...something I mentioned in rec.radio.
amateur.homebrew some time ago.

That's nice.


Damn straight.

I don't know if it is straight. I said, "that's nice".

LCie4 IS a very nice program for quickly and
accurately synthesizing (designing) and analyzing a passive L-C
filter of lowpass, highpass, bandpass, or bandstop configuration.
The user can optionally change component values, modify Q of
inductors or capacitors, do printouts of schematics or analysis
results (or store them in a file), analyze input and output
impedances in lieu of normal decibel insertion loss, phase change,
or group delay. It's been proven in real hardware results that
came out exactly as predicted.

I see--and anytime anyone tells you, "that's nice", you have to describe
it in further detail?

RST Engineering makes some neat electronics for general aviation
aircraft. RST has a nice website if anyone cares to look.

I looked at the web site. It isn't particularly nice. If one orders
online, the payment information isn't even sent securely.


You aren't involved in general aviation. You have NO business
with general aviation let alone private flying. Why are YOU
being critical of something you aren't even close to being
involved in?

You just told us that the firm has a nice web site if any cared to look
at it? Was your comment insincere? At you suggestion, I went and
looked at it. I gave you my opinion. The site isn't slick or glitzy
and it doesn't offer secure ordering. All in all, it looks rather
homemade.

Why are YOU being critical of someone else's website to ME?

Why did you suggest that we go look at it if you weren't prepared for
comments?

You don't even live in California. You have NO business with
any California elections of any kind. Why do you give a ****
of any elections of governors in California or state politics?

You're right. I don't live in California and don't have any business in
its state elections. You're the one who brought the subject up. Why
are you posting the stuff in r.r.a.p. ?


One
of the neat things they do is what I would term "SURFACE MOUNT
VHF antennas" for aircraft fabric surfaces. :-) Neat! They
don't stick out in the airstream and thus have minimal drag.
[international civil aviation band is 108 to 137 MHz]

I've not noted many fabric surfaces on the aircraft I've seen in recent
decades.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. There are tens of thousands of general aviation
aircraft having "fabric" covering in United States registry
alone.

The low end stuff, huh? That's ancient technology, Len.

That YOU "haven't seen them" doesn't mean they exist.

Right. It's sort of like the details of my service in Vietnam. Just
because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

In a half hour's drive from my residence, I can go to two major
airports and one air park that have well over a thousand such
"fabric" covered aircraft.

Well, I'll be darned. I don't have to put up with all that noise.

You said nothing about "surface mounting," indicating you are
unable to perceive any humor (as in "SMD" now the common method
of electronics hardware construction) or the fact that MOST of
a general aviation aircraft structure UNDER the skin is largely
empty.

That's real rib-tickling stuff, Len. If the engineering stuff starts to
peter out, you might consider a career as a retired (from regular hours)
standup comic. That surface mount stuff should slay an audience.

Any antenna can thus be mounted on the surface of a
non-conductive skin and be largely unaffected on characteristics
in that position.

Really? Let me write all this stuff down for future reference. Does
that mean I could enclose an antenna in fibreglas or PVC? Could I mount
such an antenna in an attic? What'll they think of next?

Rather basic EM theory involved there, but
meaningless to those who will not bother to think about basic
radio theory.

I can see that those who don't bother to think about basic radio theory
might have problems grasping the concept.


Thanks for providing the information on the aircraft band.
Perhaps nobody here knew where the band could be found.


YOU have NO BUSINESS with general aviation concerns, are NOT
INVOLVED.

Does this mean I'll have to sell my scanner?

It is no surprise that those who are NOT INVOLVED
would be ignorant of technical details.

A spread of frequencies is a technical detail?

Amateur radio is NOT
INVOLVED with the international civil aviation band in VHF or
the specific frequencies for that in the HF spectrum.

By George, I think you may have a point. Why are you writing about it
here then?

If you have any more questions, don't be afraid to show your
ignorance. You haven't yet.

I realize that I haven't shown it yet. Thanks for the kudos.

Keep plugging along with that copy of "Now Your Talking", old timer.

Dave K8MN