From: on Nov 9, 5:55 pm

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From: on Nov 9, 4:04 pm
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From: on Nov 8, 5:55 pm
On 8 Nov 2005 17:18:20 -0800, wrote:


Carl Stevenson was elected Member at Large of the IEEE Standards
Association in IEEE news e-mailed to members today.

Many of us have sent him our congratulations.

What do you mean "we?" You wouldn't have known about an IEEE
election without a notice from an IEEE member. YOU are NOT
an IEEE member.

Mouse. Pocket.

Notice that Jimmie worded his sentence about "congratulations"
to NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY that J. P. Miccolis congratulated him.
Gives the impression, the implication that he did without
committing his name to some "fact."


WE don't know where or what YOUR "professional" electronics
activity is/involves. You could be taking lessons from
Dudly the Imposter.

Speaks as an authority on space science, Has trouble with distance to
the moon.

Jimmie has lots of troubles. Like telling EXACTLY what he does
for a living as a "professional."


I thought it terribly IRONIC that long-time radio amateur
Carl Stevenson, WK3C, who WAS REFUSED A NOMINATION FOR OFFICE
AT THE ARRL (an AMATEUR organization), managed to not only
GET ON a ballot of the IEEE (a PROFESSIONAL association), and
WIN! :-)

Not ironic at all.

WRONG. INCORRECT.

The standards of amateurism are different. Ask Jim Thorpe.

Dead a long time ago. Do you talk to the dead?!?

Other than the BoD that is...

Why would an atheist think he could talk to the dead? Reminds me of
Steve's recent attempt to talk to W0EX.

Dudly the Imposter can do ANYTHING. He just hasn't gotten around
to claiming everything yet... :-)


Carl had more than enough signatures on his nomination papers.
But the Executive Committee that decides such matters though there
was a conflict of interest between his professional duties and being
an ARRL Director, and declared him ineligible to run. That decision
was not reversed by the BoD.

We've all seen your parroting of ARRL-is-god spin in here
before on that matter.

Put a cork in it and go to your seance. Ask Jim Fixx.

He'll blow right by Jim Fixx and got straight to Hiram. Jim got clout.

Heh hehe. Last time I mentioned "Jim Fixx," Jimmie did NOT
seem to know who that person was.

Fixx was an author of at least one best-selling book on RUNNING.

Claimed it "prevented heart problems." Fixx died while running,
of a heart attack. Ironic.


Some members of ARRL, particularly in the Atlantic Division, did not
agree with that decision, and made their disagreement known to the
BoD, the other officers of ARRL, and anybody else involved. Those
efforts to get him on the ballot were, unfortunately, not successful.

One cannot argue with the dead.

One cannot argue with morsemen.

Hard to tell the difference there...

If the hierarchy of ARRL doesn't want someone anywhere close
to their entrenched POWER, that's it.

In 2003 Dave Sumner pulled down an annual salary of $137,558
plus $9,239 in Benefits plus $7,829 in "expenses." [source:
ARRL federal income tax returns for 2003 filed in 2004] Not
bad for being an executive vice president and "secretary."
That's higher than most managers in the electronics industry.
It's understandable that such would be very protective of
their income.

In 2003 ARRL had 23 paid positions making over $50,000 a year.
Only 10 of those were listed on the IRS returns for 2003.
Not bad for a supposedly altruistic membership organization
of only 145 thousand members supposedly "representing" all
700+ thousand United States radio amateurs. Like they make
"no profit" from their many books and other publications...

If ARRL loses membership, loses sales, well, there goes the
income. "It's all about the money with them" might fit as
Jimmie likes to put it...

btw, it is interesting to note the name of Carl's firm.

Why? Because he has one and you do not?

Jimmie probably thinks amateur radio terms are somehow
"copyrighted" and MUST NOT EVER be used in business.

Sort of like "QST," "CQ," "73," and "W5YI Group."

Jimmie now preparing to argue that I am "mistaken."
ARRL "invented" the Q-code QST...73 went out of business,
W5YI Group "doesn't like morse code" (they teach it
anyway). Don't know what Jimmie will call "CQ" since
they are a magazine competitor to QST...but he will no
doubt say they are "lower class" or something like that...

You know damn well that Carl got tossed off the nomination sheet
due to his being Executive Director of No Code International.
ARRL doesn't want no-coders. ARRL wants only those "acceptible"
to the BoD hierarchy.

ARRL has a VIRTUAL monopoly on United States amateur radio
publications. Has had that for years. Beautiful vehicle
for conditioning the thinking of United States radio amateurs.
George Orwell coined the term "big brother." That fits the
ARRL too.

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Many of us have sent him our congratulations.

Notice that Jimmie worded his sentence about "congratulations"
to NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY that J. P. Miccolis congratulated him.

Your reading comprehension is a bad as ever, Len.

Gives the impression, the implication that he did without
committing his name to some "fact."

Then let me say it another way:

I and many others sent him our congratulations.

Is that clear enough for ya?

ARRL has a VIRTUAL monopoly on United States amateur radio
publications. Has had that for years.

"CQ" magazine. "73" magazine. "ham radio" magazine. Bash books.
Gordon West publications. "Worldradio" publications. Ameco
publications.
W5YI.

Etc.

From: on Nov 10, 2:42 pm

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Many of us have sent him our congratulations.

Notice that Jimmie worded his sentence about "congratulations"
to NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY that J. P. Miccolis congratulated him.

Your reading comprehension is a bad as ever, Len.

WRONG. It is excellent.

Jimmie, YOUR MISTAKE was using vague adjectives as descriptors.

"Many of us" does NOT specifically include YOU.

You know that very well. Or did, once the Nuns spanked your
knuckles.

Try as you might, you aren't going to win message points by
manufacturing falsehoods or even brags about your writing
ability, the ones where you CLAIM to have said something
when you OBVIOUSLY did NOT do so.


Then let me say it another way:

I and many others sent him our congratulations.

Prove that. Prove the number of "many others."

Did you get a "group hug" together or what? :-)


Is that clear enough for ya?

Not really. All you've done is just more MISDIRECTION, trying
to avoid having obvious errors pointed out to you by saying
someone else "did wrong."

Now HOW DID YOU KNOW Carl was elected to anything? :-)

Don't give us some fogware bull**** about "you knew." The
results of the IEEE election were sent by private e-mail to
IEEE members on the same day as I posted the results.

You are NOT an IEEE member. I am a Life Member of the IEEE.

I will not expect any cogent answer from you. I will expect
some more fogware bull**** saying that *I* did something
"wrong" ("wrong" according to YOUR standards).

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From: on Nov 10, 2:42 pm
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Many of us have sent him our congratulations.
Notice that Jimmie worded his sentence about "congratulations"
to NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY that J. P. Miccolis congratulated him.

Your reading comprehension is a bad as ever, Len.

WRONG. It is excellent.

Dream on, Len. You messed up.

Jimmie, YOUR MISTAKE was using vague adjectives as descriptors.

"Many of us" does NOT specifically include YOU.

Yes it does.

You know that very well. Or did, once the Nuns spanked your
knuckles.

Try as you might, you aren't going to win message points by
manufacturing falsehoods or even brags about your writing
ability, the ones where you CLAIM to have said something
when you OBVIOUSLY did NOT do so.

Gosh you're all upset and overwrought, Len.

Then let me say it another way:

I and many others sent him our congratulations.

Prove that. Prove the number of "many others."

Why? You won't accept it anyway.

Did you get a "group hug" together or what? :-)

Is that clear enough for ya?

Not really. All you've done is just more MISDIRECTION, trying
to avoid having obvious errors pointed out to you by saying
someone else "did wrong."

Now HOW DID YOU KNOW Carl was elected to anything? :-)

I found out.

Don't give us some fogware bull**** about "you knew."

Fogware bull**** is your specialty, Len. You're the acknowledged expert
on that subject.

The
results of the IEEE election were sent by private e-mail to
IEEE members on the same day as I posted the results.

I knew on November 7.

You are NOT an IEEE member. I am a Life Member of the IEEE.

Well bully for you, Len.

You are NOT a radio amateur. I am an Amateur Extra class radio
amateur, and have been since 1970.

Game, set, match.

I will not expect any cogent answer from you.

You don't give "cogent answers", Len.

By the way, when WK3C was trying to get on the ballot for ARRL Director
from the Atlantic Division, there were a number of people who tried to
get the ARRL BoD and Executive Committee to allow him to run.

Guess who some of those people were.

From: on Nov 10, 4:54 pm


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From: on Nov 10, 2:42 pm
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Many of us have sent him our congratulations.

Notice that Jimmie worded his sentence about "congratulations"
to NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY that J. P. Miccolis congratulated him.

Your reading comprehension is a bad as ever, Len.

WRONG. It is excellent.

Dream on, Len. You messed up.

Oh, oh...it was bound to happen...J.P. Miccolis is becoming
a clone of Dudly the Imposter!

Tsk, everyone ELSE "makes mistakes," Jimmie doesn't.


Jimmie, YOUR MISTAKE was using vague adjectives as descriptors.
"Many of us" does NOT specifically include YOU.

Yes it does.

Tsk..."many of us" doesn't say anything specific at all.

What does/do "us" refer to?

How many is "many?" :-)


I and many others sent him our congratulations.

Prove that. Prove the number of "many others."

Why? You won't accept it anyway.

Jimmie: "Waaaa...waaaa...big bad Len don't accept it!"

:-)


Now HOW DID YOU KNOW Carl was elected to anything? :-)

I found out.

Tsk...how did you "find out?"

Someone sent you a morse code message on 40 meters? :-)

You had your crystal ball plugged in and saw the news? :-)


Don't give us some fogware bull**** about "you knew."

Fogware bull**** is your specialty, Len. You're the acknowledged expert
on that subject.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...Jimmie say NON-specifics with NO answers,
and is uncivil on top of that. :-)

Let me repeat, HOW did you FIND OUT?


The
results of the IEEE election were sent by private e-mail to
IEEE members on the same day as I posted the results.

I knew on November 7.

HOW did you FIND OUT?


You are NOT an IEEE member. I am a Life Member of the IEEE.

Well bully for you, Len.

[a decided lack of sincerity there...:-) ]

You are NOT a radio amateur. I am an Amateur Extra class radio
amateur, and have been since 1970.

I am a radio professional. I was granted a First Class
Radiotelephone (Commercial) radio operator license in 1956
and kept it renewed.

I've been a professional in radio since 1953, beginning with
HF communictions.

I've been a hobbyist in electronics as well, beginning in
1947. Still am.

BTW, "electronics" INCLUDES radio. Radio is a subset within
all of electronics.

Have you been an editor of an amateur radio specialty
publication? I was an Associate Editor at Ham Radio magazine.
[look on the mastheads]

Jimmie say I have "smallest johnson ever made." Not nice.

My johnson all natural ingredients, not manufactured.


Game, set, match.

Tsk, tsk, why are you quoting a Len Deighton novel trilogy?

Is/was author Len Deighton a UK or Irish radio amateur?



I will not expect any cogent answer from you.

You don't give "cogent answers", Len.

Tsk, you don't give good question, Jimmie.

You don't give good answer.

Jimmie just not good.

Jimmie want answers that please him. Too bad you not get them.

Tsk.

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From: on Nov 10, 4:54 pm
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From: on Nov 10, 2:42 pm
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I and many others sent him our congratulations.

Now HOW DID YOU KNOW Carl was elected to anything? :-)

I found out.

Tsk...how did you "find out?"

It's not a secret, Len.

Don't give us some fogware bull**** about "you knew."

Fogware bull**** is your specialty, Len. You're the acknowledged expert
on that subject.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...Jimmie say NON-specifics with NO answers,
and is uncivil on top of that. :-)

You used the phrase "fogware bull****" first, Len.

Let me repeat, HOW did you FIND OUT?

Good news travels fast. While I may not agree with WK3C on a few
things, it was good news to hear of his election to that IEEE post.
So I offered him my congratulations. I was pleased that he won
but not surprised.

Too bad the ARRL BoD and Executive Committee could not be
made to change their minds about allowing him to run for Director
of the Atlantic Division, despite the efforts of some of us in the
Division to get him on the ballot.

The
results of the IEEE election were sent by private e-mail to
IEEE members on the same day as I posted the results.

I knew on November 7.

HOW did you FIND OUT?

Why does that matter so much to you, Len?

Jimmie say I have "smallest johnson ever made."

Nobody said that but you, Len.

I wrote some time back that you had held onto "one of the
smallest Johnsons ever produced".

And you have.

Not nice.

What's not nice about telling the truth? The Johnson Viking Messenger
is smaller than almost all other Johnsons.

I will not expect any cogent answer from you.

You don't give "cogent answers", Len.

Tsk, you don't give good question, Jimmie.

You mean like:

"Tsk...how did you "find out?""

"Let me repeat, HOW did you FIND OUT?"

"HOW did you FIND OUT?"

Is your behavior here "professional", Len?

That would be because "Ham Radio" magazine did not exist. The magazine cover called it "ham radio", not "Ham Radio". See an actual cover at http://webhome.idirect.com/~griffith/hrindex.htm .

But here we have Len manufacturing a "slight" and displaying his patented umbrage in order to perpetuate his "victim of Morse users" status again. So unfortunate that his facts were in disarray and he stands as a victim of his own petulance.

Tsk, tsk.

The Man in the Maze
QRV from Baboquivari Peak

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Fogware bull**** is your specialty, Len. You're the acknowledged expert
on that subject.

Steve says "colorful euphemisms" aren't used by sailors and marines. I
guess you're serving in other ways again.

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Fogware bull**** is your specialty, Len. You're the acknowledged expert
on that subject.

Steve says "colorful euphemisms" aren't used by sailors and marines. I
guess you're serving in other ways again.

but stevie don't tolerateword like bull****

oh i forgot stebie lie about that too

an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

Fogware bull**** is your specialty, Len. You're the acknowledged expert
on that subject.

Steve says "colorful euphemisms" aren't used by sailors and marines. I
guess you're serving in other ways again.

but stevie don't tolerateword like bull****

oh i forgot stebie lie about that too

"K4YZ" has become a colorful euphimism for intolerant, bad mannered
RRAP citizen.