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Old November 27th 05, 01:23 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.shortwave
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Default In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.

Sending DLS (Internet) over powerlines uses either
1.8 to 32 MHz
or
3 to 21 Mhz.
Of cause in the first case CB is also affected.

The signal strength was measured by the gov, and
found to be 111.639 times the allowed limit....
They had to reduce it a factor 111.639 to make even digital radio
reception (DRM (Digital Radio Mondial) ) possible.

New tests are running, here is an original article in German:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/66673

As internet over powerlines is also considered in the US,
I think US amateurs and CB people should strongly protest
too.

These guys got the license to operate 'because it is cable,
and that is not regulated like radio'.
Of cause powerlines are not shielded, and high up there, the
perfect VERY long antennas....

;-) Maybe if the conditions are good you will be able to get free internet
from Austria in the US. ;-)



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Old November 27th 05, 05:20 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.shortwave
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Default In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.

My feeling is that it isn't going to do much good to cry... the FCC and
majority of the public seem to like it... and the Hams and CBers have a
lousy lobby. Let's hope the levels are low enough to be tolerable.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com


Jan Panteltje wrote:
Sending DLS (Internet) over powerlines uses either
1.8 to 32 MHz
or
3 to 21 Mhz.
Of cause in the first case CB is also affected.

The signal strength was measured by the gov, and
found to be 111.639 times the allowed limit....
They had to reduce it a factor 111.639 to make even digital radio
reception (DRM (Digital Radio Mondial) ) possible.

New tests are running, here is an original article in German:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/66673

As internet over powerlines is also considered in the US,
I think US amateurs and CB people should strongly protest
too.

These guys got the license to operate 'because it is cable,
and that is not regulated like radio'.
Of cause powerlines are not shielded, and high up there, the
perfect VERY long antennas....

;-) Maybe if the conditions are good you will be able to get free internet
from Austria in the US. ;-)


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Old November 27th 05, 06:13 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.shortwave
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Default In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.

On 27 Nov 2005 09:20:30 -0800, "Professor"
wrote:

My feeling is that it isn't going to do much good to cry... the FCC and
majority of the public seem to like it... and the Hams and CBers have a
lousy lobby. Let's hope the levels are low enough to be tolerable.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com


Part of Big Brother's campaign to control the airwaves completely.
They do not want us to be able to communicate without using their
infrastructure.

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Old November 27th 05, 08:32 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.shortwave
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Default In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.

On a sunny day (Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:13:23 GMT) it happened David
wrote in :

On 27 Nov 2005 09:20:30 -0800, "Professor"
wrote:

My feeling is that it isn't going to do much good to cry... the FCC and
majority of the public seem to like it... and the Hams and CBers have a
lousy lobby. Let's hope the levels are low enough to be tolerable.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com


Part of Big Brother's campaign to control the airwaves completely.
They do not want us to be able to communicate without using their
infrastructure.

But if it interferes with DRM (digital radio), nobody can hear their brainwash :-)
So in that case they will have to act I'd think.
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Old November 29th 05, 05:25 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.shortwave
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Default In Austria Amateurs protest against DSL over powerlines.

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:13:23 GMT, David wrote:

+On 27 Nov 2005 09:20:30 -0800, "Professor"
wrote:
+
+My feeling is that it isn't going to do much good to cry... the FCC and
+majority of the public seem to like it... and the Hams and CBers have a
+lousy lobby. Let's hope the levels are low enough to be tolerable.
+
+Professor
+www.telstar-electronics.com
+
+
+Part of Big Brother's campaign to control the airwaves completely.
+They do not want us to be able to communicate without using their
+


**********

BWAAAAAHAAAHAAAA!

best laugh I have heard today.

james


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Old November 29th 05, 05:30 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.shortwave
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On 27 Nov 2005 09:20:30 -0800, "Professor"
wrote:

+majority of the public seem to like it... and the Hams and CBers have a
+lousy lobby. Let's hope the levels are low enough to be tolerable.
+
+Professor
+www.telstar-electronics.com

*******

Hams have minimal and the CB lobby is next to nothing.

I personally can't see where power line internet will be a real
challenge to current copper phone lines and fiber. With Verizon
spending billions to string fiber to individuals homes, it wont be
long before the lawsu its begin and they will have to grant access to
these. Once that happens powerline DSL in the US is a foot note in
history.

james
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