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[email protected] January 5th 06 11:10 PM

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 
Walt Davidson wrote:

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:02:36 -0000, "realradioham"
wrote:

OK I'm standing, what can we do? the problem is not the M3's but the system
that let this farce happen. I don't agree with your sentiment that all M3's
are freeloaders, that may have been the case when first introduced but not
now. The only way into the hobby is via the new 3 step licensing but there
is no real incentive to advance, a two year limit creating the provisional
M3 licence would be a start - restriction of bands as in the good old us of
a would be another.


You can write to Ofcom, making exactly the points you mentioned above.
That is what I did. If enough individuals do likewise, the regulator
may be induced to make the necessary changes. The RSCB is of no
relevance whatsoever in this matter. I think it's fair to say that
Ofcom have learned their lesson - very belatedly - on that score.

It does no good to keep sounding off about it here. There is nobody
here who is going to pay a blind bit of notice.

73 de G3NYY


Exactly my point Walt. In fact anyone in authority who takes a look at the
anti-M3 "they are all the same" bigotry on here (which sadly you've often been a
psrt of), will then discount all rational suggestions. I too think there should
be both an age limit (minimum :-)) and a time limit, but I don't think either
will be achieved by slagging off CBers and M3s willy nilly.


[email protected] January 5th 06 11:11 PM

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 
pointyhead wrote:

Too complicated OM. Just refuse to have anything to do with any M3,
works fine for me.

--
Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge


And this is what I mean, Walt. And why he should a proud holder
Heaven alone knows.


[email protected] January 5th 06 11:24 PM

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 
Peter wrote:

CW does not make you a better radio amateur but it does give some
folk on this newgroup an inflated opinion of themselves. Perhaps that
test and the RAE are only exams they have ever been able to pass? ;-)

Peter, G3PHO


True Peter. I have the 12 wpm morse, and I enjoy the mode. And I passed an
essay exam many years ago. But that doesn't make me any better an amateur. It
was necessary for the time, that's all. We nearly all built then and we shared
some bands with CW people who _had_ to be able to make us understand if there
was an emergency. (The Bs weren't on those bands so didn't need the morse.).
Non-one needs the morse now (but it's still fun) and few people build. We _are_
really now nothing more than appliance operators, who hopefully have some
concept of transmitting cleanly, apart from anyone who likes to choose some
pioneering activity. All strength to both types of amateur, I say. Oh, and one
other thing: we do enjoy heaps of spectrum. But if newsgroups carry on spouting
the anti- line persistently enough, we may lose it. Good, some may say, it
isn't what _we_ want to _you_ can't have it either!
..


[email protected] January 5th 06 11:28 PM

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 
realradioham wrote:

"Peter" wrote in message
...
CW does not make you a better radio amateur but it does give some
folk on this newgroup an inflated opinion of themselves. Perhaps that
test and the RAE are only exams they have ever been able to pass? ;-)

Peter, G3PHO



The RAE was never an exam. It's not reconsider by any employer as a
qualification. The Morse test merely showed a dedication to the hobby. A
better test enabling access to HF would be an exam testing the ability of
the individual to rectify emc issues etc.

rrh


Wrong. The RAE that Peter and I (callsign not that far away from Peter's)
sat certainly was an exam. It required you to demonstrate real knowledge of
things you needed to know then. From memory, it was 3 hours (maybe 2) of
essay type questions that could not be guessed. You had to demonstrate
understanding. And I know there were lots of employers who considered it a
good vocational qualification. But the need for that particular knowledge has
changed. We don't claim any superiority.


[email protected] January 5th 06 11:30 PM

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 
pointyhead wrote:

The Magnum wrote:

No, sorry your not. Im not going to pass on who it was out of courtesy apart
from telling you it wasn't him.


Ha! You wouldn't tell me anyway! I'll bet though it was some lazy assed
class b with a chip on his shoulder or an M3/Cb'er!


Oh dear, Pointyhead really must have a problem.


an_old_friend January 6th 06 12:00 AM

shit
 

wrote:
pointyhead wrote:

The Magnum wrote:

No, sorry your not. Im not going to pass on who it was out of courtesy apart
from telling you it wasn't him.


Ha! You wouldn't tell me anyway! I'll bet though it was some lazy assed
class b with a chip on his shoulder or an M3/Cb'er!


Oh dear, Pointyhead really must have a problem.


maybe this will let this thread die


K4YZ January 6th 06 01:48 PM

To Our Colleagues in the UK...Sorry For Mark Morgan's (KB9RQZ) Censorship Attempts...We Don't Like Him Either.
 

an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
pointyhead wrote:

The Magnum wrote:

No, sorry your not. Im not going to pass on who it was out of courtesy apart
from telling you it wasn't him.

Ha! You wouldn't tell me anyway! I'll bet though it was some lazy assed
class b with a chip on his shoulder or an M3/Cb'er!


Oh dear, Pointyhead really must have a problem.


maybe this will let this thread die


Maybe you'll tell us what gave you the right to decide?

Steve, K4YZ


The Magnum January 6th 06 06:46 PM

Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
 

wrote in message
...
pointyhead wrote:

The Magnum wrote:

No, sorry your not. Im not going to pass on who it was out of courtesy

apart
from telling you it wasn't him.


Ha! You wouldn't tell me anyway! I'll bet though it was some lazy assed
class b with a chip on his shoulder or an M3/Cb'er!


Oh dear, Pointyhead really must have a problem.


No chip on his shoulder. Just a sack of king Edwards.... :o)

Regards,
Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 (www.open-channel.co.uk)



an_old_friend January 6th 06 07:56 PM

steveiue shit
 

K4YZ wrote: To Our Colleagues in the UK...Sorry For Mark Morgan's
(KB9RQZ) Censorship Attempts...We Don't Like Him Either.
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
pointyhead wrote:

The Magnum wrote:

No, sorry your not. Im not going to pass on who it was out of courtesy apart
from telling you it wasn't him.

Ha! You wouldn't tell me anyway! I'll bet though it was some lazy assed
class b with a chip on his shoulder or an M3/Cb'er!

Oh dear, Pointyhead really must have a problem.


maybe this will let this thread die


Maybe you'll tell us what gave you the right to decide?


the same place you get the power to lie and claim "...Sorry For Mark
Morgan's (KB9RQZ) Censorship Attempts..."

you seem to think you have the right to decide what actions other
people may take steve you don't the founder of this thread was troll he
has to right to troll, I and anyone has to to try and cut through his
net

you are alying Sack of ****

you don't know the menaing of the words you use, like "censorship"
nobdoy was being censored I was and am still just trying to devert
attention form a thread I think should die off I am removeing no post
nor stoping anybody from making one, that would be censorship

grow and learn the meaning of the word you use

you might also try learning the difference between the truth and a lie

you clearly don't that difference or are just choosing to avoid it

Steve, K4YZ



[email protected] January 6th 06 08:12 PM

steve the lying asshole of RRAp lies some more
 
On 6 Jan 2006 05:48:55 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
pointyhead wrote:

The Magnum wrote:

No, sorry your not. Im not going to pass on who it was out of courtesy apart
from telling you it wasn't him.

Ha! You wouldn't tell me anyway! I'll bet though it was some lazy assed
class b with a chip on his shoulder or an M3/Cb'er!

Oh dear, Pointyhead really must have a problem.


maybe this will let this thread die


Maybe you'll tell us what gave you the right to decide?


the ablity to act gives me the power

what gives you the power to lie and call it censorship?

in your case the ability to type

Steve, K4YZ


everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name

he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

he regualrly makes threats of aresst or of the power to confine folks againsthere will

he is lying of course

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282

well stevie you assked for it you got it
Mark Morgan


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