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Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:29:24 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote: "The Font Of All Knowledge And Wisdom" wrote in message ups.com... A number of the posts that have been quoted as this thread has developed seem to serve to re-inforce the OP, and to justify a repeat of the OP..... Sorry to say it Mr Font but..... radio Amateurs will soon no longer exist. Amateur band is the new CB so you need to move to another hobby to make way for us. Try flower arranging, im sure it will calm you down . good post My add to your sugestion that idea that the flowers should prehaps be oriental popies, they can be VERY c,laming if habdled correctly Regards, Graham (having an "oh so childish" outburst) everyone should be advised that The following person has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable STEVEN J ROBESON 151 12TH AVE NW WINCHESTER TN 37398 931-967-6282 BTW with the exalant response steve you can look forward to seeing this email addy on RRAP a while Mark Morgan _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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Spike wrote: The fettled casting incident can be found here; pour yourself a scotch or three and enjoy the tortured logic: http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.models.engineering/browse_thread/thread/ac866c5299fcd1aa/0cbfa48834da1d4a?lnk=st&q=blackgates+casting+group %3Auk.rec.models.engineering&rnum=2&hl=en#0cbfa488 34da1d4a from Aero Spike The deranged **** has tried to start a war in uk.rec.scouting with a posting in the name "Michael Garner-Superlative" likening the Scouts to Al-Qaedr. Oh Gareth - they're coming to take you away, ha ha! 73 Mike G4KFK |
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"The Magnum" wrote:
Sorry to say it Mr Font but..... radio Amateurs will soon no longer exist. Amateur band is the new CB so you need to move to another hobby to make way for us. Try flower arranging, im sure it will calm you down . Regards, Graham (having an "oh so childish" outburst) oh dear... no invite to the potty-bar new years party with comments like that!! |
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"zYYPK"
om.net wrote in message ... "The Magnum" wrote: Sorry to say it Mr Font but..... radio Amateurs will soon no longer exist. Amateur band is the new CB so you need to move to another hobby to make way for us. Try flower arranging, im sure it will calm you down . Regards, Graham (having an "oh so childish" outburst) oh dear... no invite to the potty-bar new years party with comments like that!! You know I was only teasing ;o) Regards, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 |
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In article , wrote:
Sorry to say it Mr Font but..... radio Amateurs will soon no longer exist. Amateur band is the new CB That's nonsense. The low ends of the HF bands (CW) sound nothing at all like CB. KH6O -- Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System |
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Gareth, as we all know, is a "real radio ham", so why would he need to
get the opinion of a qualified engineer? Could it be that he was out of his depth, and needed advice from someone with experience? His approach to the FT-101E neutralising problem was similar in that he got rid of the offending article. Come to that, we haven't heard much about the FT-707 project either - but at least he did ask for help with that, even if the replies were said to have been lost due to one of his ISP failures. from Aero Spike Its quite amusing how some of the fraternity in here who have a Full Licence think they can repair a radio. A lot can yes but there's also a lot of Amateurs who hold full licences who, for one reason or another, can't fix their radio. Be it shaky hands or impaired vision, no real skill with a soldering iron or simply not wanting to bother and let someone else repair it for them. Not all Full Amateurs can fix their radios even though they will tell you they can. There are plenty of search results on google or Yahoo or probably any other search engine you would care to name that would reveal appropriate information be it CB or Amateur for the repairman. Its a shame they just can't ask for help and everyone join in in a helpful discussion which is how it should be. Regards, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 |
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"Jeffrey Herman" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: Sorry to say it Mr Font but..... radio Amateurs will soon no longer exist. Amateur band is the new CB That's nonsense. The low ends of the HF bands (CW) sound nothing at all like CB. KH6O -- Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System Lol, for a clever chappie he fell for that one pretty good ;o) Have a good day, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
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The Magnum wrote: Its quite amusing how some of the fraternity in here who have a Full Licence think they can repair a radio. A lot can yes but there's also a lot of Amateurs who hold full licences who, for one reason or another, can't fix their radio. Fortunately, the ability to fix a radio is only one facet of Amateur Radio, and not a compulsory one at that. There are Amateurs about who don't do moonbounce or MFSK or aerial experimentation - Amateur Radio is a broad church. There are plenty of search results on google or Yahoo or probably any other search engine you would care to name that would reveal appropriate information be it CB or Amateur for the repairman. It's a shame that there are those about - even with a broadband connection - who 'do not follow web links'. It's their loss. It's a shame they just can't ask for help and everyone join in in a helpful discussion which is how it should be. Well, one chap asked for help concerning a problem with an FT-707, and received a number of helpful replies. It was a pity that he was the only user on ukra of that particular ISP to suffer an ISP failure and consequently never saw them. Presumably in those days he didn't know how to Google the archives. Strange world..... from Aero Spike |
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wrote in message
... On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:52:05 -0000, "The Magnum" wrote: There are plenty of search results on google or Yahoo or probably any other search engine you would care to name that would reveal appropriate information be it CB or Amateur for the repairman. I used to make a packet out of CBers, often re-repairing what their so-called 'rig doctors' had made a mess of (who said CBers didn't have their uses). Now it's M3s who provide a good source of beer money. Me too, even some of the shops technicians weren't as good as they thought they were. They want to be treated as radio amateurs, but DuffCom say, "they have not demonstrated the necessary technical competence." Some want to be treated as Amateurs, others as in many walk of life, couldn't be arsed as long as they can use it. Ho hum... Nick. I find it surprising that the Full licence requirement no longer requires Morse. It seems to be on a self destruct course which is a shame as most of you hard working Amateurs Full licence's seem to have been belittled by this. If a Full Licence doesn't require Morse then the licence doesn't mean as much. I think that is a mistake. Technical competence seems to be a bygone word. Still, worse things happen at sea.... Regards, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 |
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"Spike" wrote in message
... The Magnum wrote: Its quite amusing how some of the fraternity in here who have a Full Licence think they can repair a radio. A lot can yes but there's also a lot of Amateurs who hold full licences who, for one reason or another, can't fix their radio. Fortunately, the ability to fix a radio is only one facet of Amateur Radio, and not a compulsory one at that. There are Amateurs about who don't do moonbounce or MFSK or aerial experimentation - Amateur Radio is a broad church. Absolutely which is why it amazes me so much "hype" is placed on Morse by the Higher Licence fraternity. It's a part of Amateur radio but theres so much more.......... There are plenty of search results on google or Yahoo or probably any other search engine you would care to name that would reveal appropriate information be it CB or Amateur for the repairman. It's a shame that there are those about - even with a broadband connection - who 'do not follow web links'. It's their loss. Yep....... theres a lot of interesting stuff out there just waiting to be found. It's a shame they just can't ask for help and everyone join in in a helpful discussion which is how it should be. Well, one chap asked for help concerning a problem with an FT-707, and received a number of helpful replies. It was a pity that he was the only user on ukra of that particular ISP to suffer an ISP failure and consequently never saw them. Presumably in those days he didn't know how to Google the archives. Strange world..... It surely is. I had a few replies to some of my questions direct to my mailbox as they didn't want to be shot down by some of the Preachers in here. There are a lot of helpful and intelligent people on Amateur and in the groups who don't like the actions of a few so rarely post and that is a great shame.... Best wishes, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 |
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The Magnum wrote:
It surely is. I had a few replies to some of my questions direct to my mailbox as they didn't want to be shot down by some of the Preachers in here. G8OSN? Am I right? Huh, huh. -- Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:24:47 GMT, pointyhead
wrote: The Magnum wrote: It surely is. I had a few replies to some of my questions direct to my mailbox as they didn't want to be shot down by some of the Preachers in here. G8OSN? Am I right? Huh, huh. What? Not the L.I.A.R who had to 'upgrade' to an M3 in order to get on HF? LOL |
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"pointyhead" wrote in message
... The Magnum wrote: It surely is. I had a few replies to some of my questions direct to my mailbox as they didn't want to be shot down by some of the Preachers in here. G8OSN? Am I right? Huh, huh. No, sorry your not. Im not going to pass on who it was out of courtesy apart from telling you it wasn't him. Regards, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 |
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The Magnum wrote:
No, sorry your not. Im not going to pass on who it was out of courtesy apart from telling you it wasn't him. Ha! You wouldn't tell me anyway! I'll bet though it was some lazy assed class b with a chip on his shoulder or an M3/Cb'er! -- Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge |
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"pointyhead" wrote in message
... The Magnum wrote: No, sorry your not. Im not going to pass on who it was out of courtesy apart from telling you it wasn't him. Ha! You wouldn't tell me anyway! I'll bet though it was some lazy assed class b with a chip on his shoulder or an M3/Cb'er! No, it was a fully licensed Amateur who genuinely wanted to help. Sorry to burst your bubble. Regards, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 |
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The Magnum wrote:
No, it was a fully licensed Amateur who genuinely wanted to help. Sorry to burst your bubble. Bah! Like you'd tell me. We /both/ know who it really was. -- Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge |
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"pointyhead" wrote in message ... The Magnum wrote: No, it was a fully licensed Amateur who genuinely wanted to help. Sorry to burst your bubble. Bah! Like you'd tell me. We /both/ know who it really was. No, I'd have told you if it was him. Genuinely. Regards, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 |
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Nedlar wrote:
had to 'upgrade' to an M3 now now...when you say UPGRADE please remind everyone of the article it appeared in. |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:04:19 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote: I find it surprising that the Full licence requirement no longer requires Morse. It seems to be on a self destruct course which is a shame as most of you hard working Amateurs Full licence's seem to have been belittled by this. If a Full Licence doesn't require Morse then the licence doesn't mean as much. I think that is a mistake. Technical competence seems to be a bygone word. I find this puzzling. Please explain to me why you think a Morse Test pass at 12 wpm makes someone technically proficient? Surely a practical examination in some aspect(s) of circuit design, home construction and use of basic test equipment would be of far more value. I'd very much like to see such a practical section introduced as a replacement for the Morse Test. I've been a CW op all my amateur radio life (ie since 1961) and for the previous 10 years as an SWL. Not once have I felt superior to the many G8 friends I have who have never taken the morse test but whose technical proficiency in electronics is far greater than mine. One very good friend of mine, a G8, is a Professor of Electrical Engineering at a well known UK University. He's written countless papers on antenna design, microwaves and the like, yet, for years, he was deprived the chance to operate on the HF bands simply because he had no interest in CW .... how ridiculous. I also know many G8s who can send and receive Morse well in excess of 12wpm but who chose not to take the morse test. They use morse on the VHF/UHF and microwave bands for weak signal work such as meteor scatter, EME, etc.... far more demanding in terms of homemade gear and antenna systems than an HF bands CW QSO (most likely using commercial gear and commercial antenna). CW does not make you a better radio amateur but it does give some folk on this newgroup an inflated opinion of themselves. Perhaps that test and the RAE are only exams they have ever been able to pass? ;-) Peter, G3PHO |
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"Peter" wrote in message
... CW does not make you a better radio amateur but it does give some folk on this newgroup an inflated opinion of themselves. Perhaps that test and the RAE are only exams they have ever been able to pass? ;-) Peter, G3PHO The RAE was never an exam. It's not reconsider by any employer as a qualification. The Morse test merely showed a dedication to the hobby. A better test enabling access to HF would be an exam testing the ability of the individual to rectify emc issues etc. rrh |
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Nedlar wrote: On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:09:55 GMT, (zYYPK) wrote: Nedlar wrote: had to 'upgrade' to an M3 now now...when you say UPGRADE please remind everyone of the article it appeared in. I dont know which article it was. All I do know is that any exam that gives you EXTRA privileges must be an upgrade. ge we must realy be divided by common langauage |
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"Peter" wrote in message
... On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:04:19 -0000, "The Magnum" wrote: I find it surprising that the Full licence requirement no longer requires Morse. It seems to be on a self destruct course which is a shame as most of you hard working Amateurs Full licence's seem to have been belittled by this. If a Full Licence doesn't require Morse then the licence doesn't mean as much. I think that is a mistake. Technical competence seems to be a bygone word. I find this puzzling. Please explain to me why you think a Morse Test pass at 12 wpm makes someone technically proficient? Surely a practical examination in some aspect(s) of circuit design, home construction and use of basic test equipment would be of far more value. I'd very much like to see such a practical section introduced as a replacement for the Morse Test. It doesn't make them technically proficient to do Morse at 12wpm but it does mean they have actually got the basic skills to communicate in a different language, it used to make them technically proficient holding the Licence because it included more in depth knowledge and understanding of aspects of their hobby whereas now, the dropping on Morse and the simplified tick box answers makes the licence a much easier and less respected qualification. I've been a CW op all my amateur radio life (ie since 1961) and for the previous 10 years as an SWL. Not once have I felt superior to the many G8 friends I have who have never taken the morse test but whose technical proficiency in electronics is far greater than mine. Of course the above is true, and you are a true Amateur and you admit and acknowledge that you aren't gods gift and there are others out there with a lower licence that surpass you in technical knowledge in certain fields rather than the nut jobs in here who just like to wind people up and belittle them calling them brain dead and lazy arsed because they think they are superior in "every" way. One very good friend of mine, a G8, is a Professor of Electrical Engineering at a well known UK University. He's written countless papers on antenna design, microwaves and the like, yet, for years, he was deprived the chance to operate on the HF bands simply because he had no interest in CW .... how ridiculous. Peter, you have no argument with me over this. I also have no real interest in Morse either(at the moment) as Amateur radio is about far more than Morse. I don't like the attitude of a few in here with their Bigotry towards newcomers and class B either but.... I can see both sides and the old school who studied hard and were proud to get their Top Level licences feel that their efforts have been nullified as the licence has dropped the Morse requirement and is now a lower and easier thing to obtain. That said why spit Bile and hatred towards others.... it's supposed to be a Gentlemen's pursuit. I also know many G8s who can send and receive Morse well in excess of 12wpm but who chose not to take the morse test. They use morse on the VHF/UHF and microwave bands for weak signal work such as meteor scatter, EME, etc.... far more demanding in terms of homemade gear and antenna systems than an HF bands CW QSO (most likely using commercial gear and commercial antenna). No argument with you at all there.... CW does not make you a better radio amateur but it does give some folk on this newgroup an inflated opinion of themselves. Perhaps that test and the RAE are only exams they have ever been able to pass? ;-) Peter, G3PHO Absolutely my point Pete if you scroll through some of the messages I've posted over many months (not just in here) you would see me making the same point many times. I would rather talk on the radio rather than dot dah at people, "if all else fails you can get through" is the argument many put forward. So what? Its only a technical hobby and hardly likely to be used by the majority of Hams in an emergency. Most folk now have mobile phones and the chances of more than one cell being knocked out is, in reality, an unlikely event as the same power failures would take out the repeaters too. I certainly wouldn't use the radio to call for help if I had a mobile phone with me and I'm 99.9% certain I would more likely have my phone at my side than a radio of any description so why worry about getting through. Also if it was so easy to make contact where's the sense of accomplishment? That's why I like 11m. It's hard to make a contact but when you do it's a great feeling. I take people as I find them Pete and if they are M3, Intermediate or Advanced as long as they spoke to me as I would speak to them, I can't genuinely see a problem. Its just a few nutjobs in here that have issues, not me. Regards and a happy new year, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 |
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"Peter" wrote in message
CW does not make you a better radio amateur but it does give some If you're able to copy code, listen to any of the CW subbands -- you'll find nothing but good operators -- you'll hear none of the nonsense that occurs on the phone segments of the bands. Jeff KH6O -- Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System |
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Nedlar wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:09:55 GMT, (zYYPK) wrote: Nedlar wrote: had to 'upgrade' to an M3 now now...when you say UPGRADE please remind everyone of the article it appeared in. I dont know which article it was. All I do know is that any exam that gives you EXTRA privileges must be an upgrade. arrl website. 'president says foundation licence is a hit' or something like that. which reminds me.... - - - - - - - - From: "Brian Reay" Subject: Govt thinks AR will decline Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 20:15:08 +0100 One of our M3s has already decided the ARRL are a better deal. If the RSGB has less members it has less income from members therefore less money to spend salaries and on freebies (by which I mean 'jollys' to meetings etc.). Unless, of course, these guys are cleverer than we think and can do more with less ;-) I may have missed something but it seems logical to me. 73 Brian |
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"KØHB" wrote:
Grand Exalted Liberator of the Electric Smoke is that some sort of Lodge job-title ? |
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In message , Peter
writes CW does not make you a better radio amateur but it does give some folk on this newgroup an inflated opinion of themselves. Perhaps that test and the RAE are only exams they have ever been able to pass? ;-) Peter, G3PHO You have hit the nail on the head there. -- Mike Clayton 'For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing' http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton |
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KØHB wrote: (Jeffrey Herman) wrote: If you're able to copy code, listen to any of the CW subbands -- you'll find nothing but good operators .... Jeffrey, I'm an avid CW user, but your statement above is pure fantasy. Lousy operators on the CW bands are even MORE prevalent than on phone. Listen around the.058 watering fist watering holes and you find operators so poor it would ****of Mother Theresa that they're allowed on the air. to reinforce your point May I inqurie: are you using sarcasm or any other retoretical method in making that statement 73, de Hans, K0HB Grand Exalted Liberator of the Electric Smoke |
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I really hesitate to even appear to lend any credence to the rant below by
even responding ... However, at the same time I feel compelled to state that, when I had the pleasure of operating 4U1ITU from ITU HQ in Geneva (not too long after the US insituted the "Foundation Class"), I happily worked a LOT of M3's (perhaps 50% of about 300 contacts worked in about 2 hours on 20m) and found them to be quite well up on how to POLITELY work a DX station in a pile-up (4U1ITU invariably generates a pileup when someone activates it). I find the "give the youngsters the cold shoulder" suggestion below to be itself infantile and it's clearly not in the best interests of the future of ham radio. We *must* bring in the kids who will be the future generation of hams - otherwise when we go SK there will BE no ham radio because there won't be enough hams to justify our frequency allocations. 73, Carl - wk3c "Pierian Spring" wrote in message oups.com... It seems that anyone of those who are involved in any way with childrens' organisations or with the inducing of children to tackle the kindergarten entrance examination (that is represented by the 6-year-olds' qualification of the M3/CB Fools' Licence) exhibit behavioural traits - infantile outbursts, deliberately insulting tirades and vicious temper tantrums - that one would expect only from the children in their care. Is it time for all _REAL_ Radio Hams to refuse to have anything to do with such mental derangees and their charges, and institute an age bar, perhaps 16-years-old, below which we will not associate in any way? Only then, by making it clear that young children are not, and cannot be in any way, part of the society of adult technocrats that is Radio Hammery will be be able to influence them not to attempt to join us until they have achieved maturity? Word will soon get around if children who have been conned by the various Billies-No_Mates into going for the M3/CB fools' Licence find that no-one will speak to them. |
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Your own response is infantile in parts - if you
disagree, you can be grown-up about it without indulging in unnecessary gratuitous emotionalisms. You are missing the point which is that the Hobby that is about operating is CB Radio. Ham Radio OTOH is a technical pursuit. It is not infantile to say that we are adults in a society of adults and that we do not wish to associate or be assocaited with children. The action of "bringing in" is also misguided - those of a technical bent who are our natural successors will gravitate towards us. We do not need to, nor should we, go out and press non-technical ignoramuses and persuade them that to think that they are Radio Hams. Carl R. Stevenson wrote: I really hesitate to even appear to lend any credence to the rant below by even responding ... However, at the same time I feel compelled to state that, when I had the pleasure of operating 4U1ITU from ITU HQ in Geneva (not too long after the US insituted the "Foundation Class"), I happily worked a LOT of M3's (perhaps 50% of about 300 contacts worked in about 2 hours on 20m) and found them to be quite well up on how to POLITELY work a DX station in a pile-up (4U1ITU invariably generates a pileup when someone activates it). I find the "give the youngsters the cold shoulder" suggestion below to be itself infantile and it's clearly not in the best interests of the future of ham radio. We *must* bring in the kids who will be the future generation of hams - otherwise when we go SK there will BE no ham radio because there won't be enough hams to justify our frequency allocations. |
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Orator For Decency wrote:
The action of "bringing in" is also misguided - those of a technical bent who are our natural successors will gravitate towards us. We do not need to, nor should we, go out and press non-technical ignoramuses and persuade them that to think that they are Radio Hams. Great, so let's demolish all the university's then. -- huLLy Tel: 07976 123278 ICQ 136-987-925 |
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Nedlar wrote: On 29 Dec 2005 17:08:43 GMT, (Jeffrey Herman) wrote: "Peter" wrote in message CW does not make you a better radio amateur but it does give some If you're able to copy code, listen to any of the CW subbands -- you'll find nothing but good operators -- you'll hear none of the nonsense that occurs on the phone segments of the bands. Jeff KH6O Well said Jeff. not true by what I hear |
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Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
I really hesitate to even appear to lend any credence to the rant below by even responding ... However, at the same time I feel compelled to state that, when I had the pleasure of operating 4U1ITU from ITU HQ in Geneva (not too long after the US insituted the "Foundation Class"), I happily worked a LOT of M3's (perhaps 50% of about 300 contacts worked in about 2 hours on 20m) Did you ever wonder how /so/ many were ever able to break the pile up with 10w? Are you beginning to get the drift? -- Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge |
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pointyhead wrote:
Carl R. Stevenson wrote: I really hesitate to even appear to lend any credence to the rant below by even responding ... However, at the same time I feel compelled to state that, when I had the pleasure of operating 4U1ITU from ITU HQ in Geneva (not too long after the US insituted the "Foundation Class"), I happily worked a LOT of M3's (perhaps 50% of about 300 contacts worked in about 2 hours on 20m) Did you ever wonder how /so/ many were ever able to break the pile up with 10w? Are you beginning to get the drift? Depending on the location of the rx to the tx, dropping power can sometimes increase the chances of getting through. -- huLLy Tel: 07976 123278 ICQ 136-987-925 |
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huLLy wrote:
Depending on the location of the rx to the tx, dropping power can sometimes increase the chances of getting through. Aye, and I'll bet they all had their PL259's well soaked in brine. -- Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge |
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At 370 posts in only 4 days, it certainly seems as though
this is an idea whose time has come! What a pity, though, that a number of the posts in the thread served to illustrate the childish behaviour being criticised. Has the infantility of the 6-year-old mind and its M3/CB Fools' Licence contaminated Radio Hammery to that extent? TIME TO PUT THE PROPOSALS BELOW INTO IMMEDIATE EFFECT! Pierian Spring wrote: It seems that anyone of those who are involved in any way with childrens' organisations or with the inducing of children to tackle the kindergarten entrance examination (that is represented by the 6-year-olds' qualification of the M3/CB Fools' Licence) exhibit behavioural traits - infantile outbursts, deliberately insulting tirades and vicious temper tantrums - that one would expect only from the children in their care. Is it time for all _REAL_ Radio Hams to refuse to have anything to do with such mental derangees and their charges, and institute an age bar, perhaps 16-years-old, below which we will not associate in any way? Only then, by making it clear that young children are not, and cannot be in any way, part of the society of adult technocrats that is Radio Hammery will be be able to influence them not to attempt to join us until they have achieved maturity? Word will soon get around if children who have been conned by the various Billies-No_Mates into going for the M3/CB fools' Licence find that no-one will speak to them. |
Time for the _REAL_ Radio Ham to make a stand?
on 30/12/2005 10:32 Orator For Dementia said the following:
At 370 posts in only 4 days, it certainly seems as though this is an idea whose time has come! What a pity, though, that a number of the posts in the thread served to illustrate the childish behaviour being criticised. Has the infantility of the 6-year-old mind and its M3/CB Fools' Licence contaminated Radio Hammery to that extent? TIME TO PUT THE PROPOSALS BELOW INTO IMMEDIATE EFFECT! I see the voices in your head have made you answer your own post again. ....(_!_)... |
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