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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:10:10 GMT, Trevor Day
wrote:

With a G8L call I would have expected you to recognise an obvious troll
by now. You either want to get back to the hobby or you don't, if this
puts you off then frankly perhaps its not for you!


Beanie is not a troll Trevor... his writings on the Soham murders and
the monarchy confirm that he is of sick mind..

Peter, G3PHO

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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:10:10 GMT, Trevor Day
wrote:

With a G8L call I would have expected you to recognise an obvious troll
by now. You either want to get back to the hobby or you don't, if this
puts you off then frankly perhaps its not for you!


Beanie is not a troll Trevor... his writings on the Soham murders and
the monarchy confirm that he is of sick mind..

Peter, G3PHO

Perhaps troll is the wrong word Peter; however I still feel that
Gareth's prose should not put off anyone interested in AR especially
someone with such an apparent pedigree.

Trev G3ZYY
--
Trevor Day
UKSMG #217
www.uksmg.org

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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:10:10 GMT, Trevor Day
Beanie is not a troll Trevor... his writings on the Soham murders and
the monarchy confirm that he is of sick mind..

Peter, G3PHO

It is no wonder wherever he goes he is loathed, I wonder if his wife knows
that he condones the murders of children, and police officers etc. The
"Orator For Decency" would not know the meaning of decency, he appears to be
a bitter, evil, and twisted little 'man' , if it were not for visits from
the police I doubt if he would have any visitors. His inferiority complex
must give him sleepless nights.

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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:18:11 GMT, Trevor Day
wrote:

I still feel that
Gareth's prose should not put off anyone interested in AR especially
someone with such an apparent pedigree.

Agreed!

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Hi Trevor

Well, I was surprised by the animosity. If I were to regularly meet
that within on air conversations I would be quite bothered I think. I
remembered the hobby as being very gentlemanly and was therefore qute
suprised. I think I may just lurk about an some of the HF / VHF bands
and see what actually happens before deciding to get my iron out again.


I'm seeing my old mate G4GCO tonight for a few beers, no doubt we will
discuss this as well.

Thanks for the comments

73

Andy - G8LIR

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Thanks to everyone who commented

It seems that maybe this is not the general view of class B after all.
I'm going to lurk about on HF/VHF for a while listening and see how it
goes down, maybe I'll get my iron out then and do some stuff.

Thanks for the advice all

Andy G8LIR

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Well, I was surprised by the animosity. If I were to regularly meet
that within on air conversations I would be quite bothered I think. I
remembered the hobby as being very gentlemanly and was therefore qute
suprised. I think I may just lurk about an some of the HF / VHF bands
and see what actually happens before deciding to get my iron out again.

Big changes for the worse......

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wrote in message
ups.com...
Thanks to everyone who commented

It seems that maybe this is not the general view of class B after all.
I'm going to lurk about on HF/VHF for a while listening and see how it
goes down, maybe I'll get my iron out then and do some stuff.

Thanks for the advice all

Andy G8LIR


just think you can now go on HF............

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From what you write below, you would seem to qualify as
a _REAL_ Radio Ham, the essence of Radio Hammery,
and pursuing activities that the FAQ praises.

To get as far as the bit you quote below, you must have
read the opening paragraphs which speak in support of
the style of Radio Hammery which you say is you, and so
it is difficult to understand why you should seem to take offence
at remarks which clearly are not directed at you. As you say below,
you have been "out of it" for a number of years, so it is unlikely
that you were aware of the gangrenous degeneration that is
the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme or that you availed yourself
of the facility.

The groups which are criticised by the FAQ are those who
have featured in this NG in the years gone by, and any
animosity has, indeed, been originated by the criticised groups.
For me, Radio Hammery has always had traditions of international
gentlemanliness and these criticised groups do not have those
traditions.

So, you would appear to come from the traditional seed-corn of
Radio Hammery, where it is a technical pursuit with jealously
guarded privileges and yet you seem to take offence at criticsm
of those who are not in your league.

I offer no apologies for maintaining a stance to uphold the
technical and gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio; nor do
I apologise for setting ourselves apart from CBers.

wrote:
"One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds. "
Hold on a mo. I'm a class B licence holder - G8LIR, and have been for,
oh about 30 years I think. My main interest was in fast scan ATV on 70
Cms and 23cms, and with a small team we competed in many ATV contests,
setting new (and I think unbroken) records. All our equipment was home
built - yes I do mean ALL - including narrow band ATV receivers
utilising inline cavities and integrating receivers to subtract noise
and reveal lost images when only a weak sync pulse was available. We
also DESIGNED and built the linear amplifiers using 4cx250's in push
pull, with 2kv on the anodes and tuneable cavities (not copied
designs). And, oh yes, we designed filters using laplace transforms to
calculate the correct vaues for the inductors, wound them ourselves and
tuned then with second hand spectrum analysers.
Now to me, that level of technical expertise speaks to a certain
intellectual level over a 6 year olds.
I was considering returning to the hobby, but frankly the view in this
FAQ has put me off.

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You continue to behave like a 5-year-old.

Peter wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:10:10 GMT, Trevor Day
wrote:

With a G8L call I would have expected you to recognise an obvious troll
by now. You either want to get back to the hobby or you don't, if this
puts you off then frankly perhaps its not for you!


Beanie is not a troll Trevor... his writings on the Soham murders and
the monarchy confirm that he is of sick mind..

Peter, G3PHO