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Orator For Decency January 27th 06 05:04 PM

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What is Ham Radio?

(Preface)
It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for
decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery. Even
the Usenet newsgroups dedicated to the cause have degenerated
into a hotbed of abusive onslaughts by those who ought to know better.
However, there still exists the fundamental basis on which Ham
Radio is based, and that will never die. This FAQ ("What Is
Ham Radio?") will be regularly published and will not be
shouted or bullied down. It is important that those of a
technical bent, who are the natural seed-corn of Radio Hammery
and who gravitate towards us to be the real novitiate, can
still find us, (and know that we are still here), their fellows.

-----ooooo-----

Please remember that this FAQ is a _POSITIVE EXHORTATION_
to you to exert yourselves to join our fraternity! (If you find
otherwise, then perhaps you are already classing yourself in the
mediocre groups of those who are criticised in the FAQ and from
whom we _MUST_ dissociate? If so - it's never too late for
a re-taxonomisation on your part - there's nothing elitist about
us, and we welcome all those who are prepared to put themselves
out in order to join our ranks!)

-----ooooo-----
(Article)
So,.....What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

-----ooooo-----

One such CB type is the so-called "Not-Ham". Otherwise
known as the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham, this type
had their background in the hobby that is CB Radio and not
in the technical pursuits that lead up to a coveted Ham licence.
Easily recognised by their boasts of the criminal activity of
11 metre SSB operation, one wonders why they don't go back to
the CB Bands if such bands are dearer in their hearts than are the Ham
Bands? No _REAL Radio Hams associate with those who made an
illegal installation of transmitting equipment before being
in possession of an appropriate licence.

-----ooooo-----

One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.

A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. A sure sign of
a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, or has ever held, a licence
issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.

-----ooooo-----

One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds.

6 year-olds simply lack the mathematical tool kit to
enable them to handle even the simplest algebraic manipulation
for Ohm's Law and thus, the disgraceful Class Ber's in
the aforementioned category are not Radio Hams by any stretch
of the imagination!

Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds,
or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme!


an old friend January 27th 06 05:07 PM

not interested and hold the shit
 

Orator For Decency wrote:
What is Ham Radio?

(Preface)
It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for
decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery.

indeed since you lack any it must be very hard


Spike January 27th 06 05:22 PM

not interested and hold the shit
 

an old friend wrote:

Orator For Decency wrote:

What is Ham Radio?

It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for
decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery.


snip

I didn't know he'd started; his behaviour on this ng is execrable.

Does his so-called 'faq' now contain a warning about not repairing
compact valve PAs with 600V on the anode?

Or has he still got his head stuck in the sand?


from
Aero Spike

G4KFK January 27th 06 05:48 PM

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Orator For Decency wrote:
It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for
decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery. Even


We've seen your idea of civilised behaviour, G4SDW - posting nasty
comments like these using anagrams of another amateur's name:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.ra...e?dmode=source

It's the kind of "civilised behaviour" that the hobby can do without.

73
Mike G4KFK


The Sweeny January 27th 06 07:54 PM

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Orator For Decency wrote:

Blah Blah Blah


WE ARE NOT INTERESTED EVANS, SHUT IT, AND TAKE YOUR MEDICATION.


Mark January 28th 06 10:18 AM

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"The Sweeny" wrote in message
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You are G4KFK and I claim my fiver ;-)

Mark



G4KFK January 28th 06 01:23 PM

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Mark wrote:
You are G4KFK and I claim my fiver ;-)


And you are a twit, and I claim mine :-)

Read the headers and compare "The Sweeney's" IP address with those of
other regular posters to this ng!

73
Mike G4KFK


The Sweeny January 28th 06 02:37 PM

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Mark wrote:

"The Sweeny" wrote in message
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You are G4KFK and I claim my fiver ;-)

Mark


A detective you'll never make.

Please send cheque for £5 made out to the police benevolent fund,
Detective Inspector Jack Regan,
New Scotland Yard
Broadway
London
SW1H 0BG


Orator For Decency January 28th 06 02:55 PM

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There is, indeed, a similarity of rather silly and infantile behaviour
between the two, but based on previous behaviours, she is more likely
to be one
of NOT-HAM, CANDID or Leigh Preece.

Whoever she is, who would wish to advertise themselves as such a
a fool as to repeatedly shout insults from the sideline?

Mark wrote:
"The Sweeny" wrote in message
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You are G4KFK and I claim my fiver ;-)

Mark



The Sweeny January 28th 06 03:32 PM

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SHUT IT EVANS YOU NUTTER


de Mac January 28th 06 05:57 PM

[quote=Orator For Decency]What is Ham Radio?

(Preface)
It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for
decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery.


did you say hammery?
pray tell, where in the Oxford English Dictionary
can you find the word hammery

Mac dit dit

Bruce Lane January 28th 06 06:42 PM

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In article .com,
(known to some as Orator For Decency) scribed...

What is Ham Radio?

(Preface)
It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for
decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery.


drivelectomy

For once, Beany, you couldn't be more correct. Your posts represent
a perfect example of exactly the kind of intolerance and LACK of
"civilised behaviour" that has permeated some parts of "Hammery"
(interesting word, BTW... Is it in Webster's yet?)

*PLONK!*

--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR)
http://www.bluefeathertech.com -- kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t calm
"Salvadore Dali's computer has surreal ports..."

Orator For Decency January 28th 06 07:00 PM

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1. Webster is a Yank dictionary and not an English one, so the
question is irrelevant.

2. Dictionaries do not prescribe they merely describe so the
question is, once again, irrelevant.

3. If it seems that I am being intolerant towards those who are not
Radio Hams by any stretch of the imagination, then, good. That
was and is my intention. We should guard jealously the privileges
that we have and stand apart from those who are simple appliance
operators and simple-minded CBers and who are indistinguishable
from the man-in-the-street with his GSM phone or CB walkie-talkie..

4. That said, I warmly encourage, as I have always done, everybody
without exception and without prejudice to exert themselves to
join our ranks. There is no snobbery in a wish to maintain standards.

5. Radio Hammery is a technical pursuit and I wish for it to always
remain so.

6. Whoever you are, I am critical of you for originating personal
remarks. There is no call for such. Ham Radio has traditions of
international gentlemanliness which seem to be lost on you. I am
not familiar with the Yankland licensing scheme; Is "KC7GR" some
form of CB licence?

Bruce Lane wrote:
In article .com,
(known to some as Orator For Decency) scribed...

What is Ham Radio?

(Preface)
It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for
decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery.


drivelectomy

For once, Beany, you couldn't be more correct. Your posts represent
a perfect example of exactly the kind of intolerance and LACK of
"civilised behaviour" that has permeated some parts of "Hammery"
(interesting word, BTW... Is it in Webster's yet?)

*PLONK!*

--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR)
http://www.bluefeathertech.com -- kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t calm
"Salvadore Dali's computer has surreal ports..."



Internet Gateway Supporter________________________ January 28th 06 07:15 PM

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Gareth,

Have you not realised that 99.9% of the readers in this ng don't give a
toss what you are posting ? The other 0.1 % are still laughing at your
rantings !


huLLy January 28th 06 07:26 PM

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Internet Gateway
Supporter_________________________________________ _________ wrote:
Gareth,

Have you not realised that 99.9% of the readers in this ng don't give
a toss what you are posting ? The other 0.1 % are still laughing at
your rantings !


As are the dsp, engineering, maths, scouting etc groups that have also
rejected his moronic rantings and personal attacks. It must be lonely out
there for him.


--
huLLy
Tel: 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925



Toxic Waste January 28th 06 07:50 PM

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"huLLy" wrote in message
...
Internet Gateway
Supporter_________________________________________ _________ wrote:


It must be lonely out there for him.


Not so Hully, the employment fairy has been very kind to him.

AIUI, he's been practicing the one and only line for his new job at
chippenham Railway Station..."spare any change"

HTH
tox



huLLy January 28th 06 08:14 PM

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wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:26:43 -0000, "huLLy" wrote:

As are the dsp, engineering, maths, scouting etc groups that have
also rejected his moronic rantings and personal attacks. It must be
lonely out there for him.


I'm assured he's just like that in real life.

Nick


I so hope so.

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Tel: 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925



huLLy January 28th 06 08:14 PM

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Toxic Waste wrote:
"huLLy" wrote in message
...
Internet Gateway
Supporter_________________________________________ _________ wrote:


It must be lonely out there for him.


Not so Hully, the employment fairy has been very kind to him.


Rent boys in Portsmouth in full time employment?

--
huLLy
Tel: 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925



Peter January 28th 06 08:51 PM

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On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:46:00 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:

I'm assured he's just like that in real life.

Nick



What I can't understand Nick is that if anyone else other than
yourself posts a criticism of him he comes back with the usual "stupid
boy", "grow up" macros, yet when you post he leaves you alone!

What have you got that the rest of us don't have? :-)

Perhaps he fears the reception that he'll get when he finally goes
"Below" ..

Peter, G3PHO

G1LVN \(for it is he\) January 28th 06 10:31 PM

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"G4KFK" wrote in message
ups.com...

Mark wrote:
You are G4KFK and I claim my fiver ;-)


And you are a twit, and I claim mine :-)

Read the headers and compare "The Sweeney's" IP address with those of
other regular posters to this ng!

DON'T TELL ME... sweeney IS _IDI-AMIN :-)






Toxic Waste January 28th 06 10:41 PM

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"Peter" wrote in message
...

What I can't understand Nick is that if anyone else other than
yourself posts a criticism of him he comes back with the usual "stupid
boy", "grow up" macros, yet when you post he leaves you alone!

What have you got that the rest of us don't have? :-)

Perhaps he fears the reception that he'll get when he finally goes
"Below" ..

Nick, myself and most of the subscribers to this forum who have beaten him
in a debate at one time or another, have rather conveniently been placed in
his killfile.

Am I bovvered?
He's disrespecting me!
He can't take the shame?

tox





G4KFK January 28th 06 11:26 PM

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G1LVN (for it is he) wrote:
DON'T TELL ME... sweeney IS _IDI-AMIN :-)


Indeed - Jack Regan has moved to Kampala and is now active as 5X5IDI

G1LVN wins the fiver!

73
Mike G4KFK


Walter Raleigh January 29th 06 01:32 AM

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"G1LVN (for it is he)" wrote in message
...
DON'T TELL ME... sweeney IS _IDI-AMIN :-)


F*ck me , you're smart aintcha.

--

vy 73 de Walter R.



From the shack of G1LVN January 29th 06 01:42 AM

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"Walter Raleigh" wrote in message
...

"G1LVN (for it is he)" wrote in message
...
DON'T TELL ME... sweeney IS _IDI-AMIN :-)


F*ck me , you're smart aintcha.

smaty-pants smarty-pants ra ra ra!!!


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Walter Raleigh January 29th 06 01:48 AM

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"From the shack of G1LVN" wrote in message
...

smaty-pants smarty-pants ra ra ra!!!


Eh?...

Nice to see you to see you nice.

--

vy 73 de Walter R.



From the shack of G1LVN January 29th 06 01:56 AM

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"Walter Raleigh" wrote in message
...

"From the shack of G1LVN" wrote in

message
...

smaty-pants smarty-pants ra ra ra!!!


Eh?...

Nice to see you to see you nice.


Stay in te blac and out of the red. There's no prize in this game for two in
a bed.


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(WOT band you on ths time o'night, Walter?)



The Sweeny January 29th 06 09:17 AM

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G4KFK wrote:

G1LVN (for it is he) wrote:
DON'T TELL ME... sweeney IS _IDI-AMIN :-)


Indeed - Jack Regan has moved to Kampala and is now active as 5X5IDI

G1LVN wins the fiver!

73
Mike G4KFK



Smart lads, well done, but no cigar!

My mate 'idi' got chucked out by his wife (oh how we laughed) and has
been staying with us for a while. He's now been forgiven (but never
forgotton) and is back in his own drum getting in the ear on how he
must keep away from other birds! :))
Also he was a bit too fond of my gold watch.

I'm very impressed with you Mike, there's a job waiting for you in the
FS if you fancy it. ;)

Idi and I are both very big fans of Gareth Evans having met him some
time ago.
At the time I remember saying as we left "That blokes an absolute james
hunt and needs locking up in a bin"

Keep your noses clean everyone and remember that old Jack can read NNTP
ips plus a bit more.


And before I forget


SHUT IT EVANS.


Reg Edwards January 29th 06 09:46 AM

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Walt, you are obviously an intelligent person of high IQ with a broad
background of knowledge.

But your contributions to newsgroups would be better appreciated if
you refrained from the many inconsequential, shorties, which waste
one's time bothering to look at. Your own valuable time is also
wasted.

But please do continue, preferably without shorties, to educate us.
----
Reg.



G4KFK January 29th 06 10:12 AM

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The Sweeny wrote:
I'm very impressed with you Mike, there's a job waiting for you in the
FS if you fancy it. ;)


It ain't rocket science!

On the subject of IP addresses, did anybody notice that Gareth's latest
new fan is in Holland?

73
Mike G4KFK


Orator For Decency January 29th 06 10:16 AM

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You continue to behave like a 5-year-old.

Peter wrote:

What I can't understand Nick is that if anyone else other than
yourself posts a criticism of him he comes back with the usual "stupid
boy", "grow up" macros, yet when you post he leaves you alone!

What have you got that the rest of us don't have? :-)

Perhaps he fears the reception that he'll get when he finally goes
"Below" ..

Peter, G3PHO



The Sweeny January 29th 06 10:34 AM

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SHUT IT EVANS


The Sweeny January 29th 06 10:48 AM

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My old Dutch :))


The Sweeny January 29th 06 10:50 AM

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That it ain't, just click the mouse!


Orator For Decency January 29th 06 11:13 AM

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Who's that, then?

Walt Davidson wrote:
On 29 Jan 2006 02:12:37 -0800, "G4KFK" wrote:
On the subject of IP addresses, did anybody notice that Gareth's latest
new fan is in Holland?

Indeed, we did. It was also noted who was away from home, working in
Holland last week.



Orator For Decency January 29th 06 11:33 AM

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Is it.....

A) Not Ham?
B) CBer?
C) Incurable CBer?
D) Rhett Butler Of Bitchiness?
E) Amin de mood for certification?
F) G7KUJ CB Mail-Order supplier?
G) All Six of the above?

Walt Davidson wrote:
On 29 Jan 2006 03:13:59 -0800, "Orator For Decency"
wrote:

Who's that, then?


That would be telling ...

;-)
73 de Wlat

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G4KFK January 29th 06 12:47 PM

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Orator For Decency wrote:
Who's that, then?


Bet you thought you had the monopoly on posting insane drivel about The
Queen to this newsgroup!

The Dutch have a constitutional monachy too!

73
Mike G4KFK


Orator For Decency January 29th 06 01:47 PM

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So, doesn't say much for him if he can't get long-term work
in this country.

Walt Davidson wrote:
On 29 Jan 2006 03:33:07 -0800, "Orator For Decency"
wrote:

Is it.....

A) Not Ham?
B) CBer?
C) Incurable CBer?
D) Rhett Butler Of Bitchiness?
E) Amin de mood for certification?
F) G7KUJ CB Mail-Order supplier?
G) All Six of the above?


My lips are sealed.

But that was quite a good guess!
;-)

73 de Wlat

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Orator For Decency January 29th 06 06:49 PM

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So, shall we expect a drop in the number of posts from
Sweeny-Odd and Amin-de-loony-bin during the mid-week when
someone who is NOT a HAM is in Holland?

Walt Davidson wrote:
On 29 Jan 2006 03:33:07 -0800, "Orator For Decency"
wrote:

Is it.....

A) Not Ham?
B) CBer?
C) Incurable CBer?
D) Rhett Butler Of Bitchiness?
E) Amin de mood for certification?
F) G7KUJ CB Mail-Order supplier?
G) All Six of the above?


My lips are sealed.

But that was quite a good guess!
;-)

73 de Wlat

--
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an Old friend January 29th 06 06:59 PM

please spare us
 

Orator For Decency wrote:
So, shall we expect a drop in the number of posts from
Sweeny-Odd and Amin-de-loony-bin during the mid-week when
someone who is NOT a HAM is in Holland?

but las it seem you have no mercy


G1LVN \(for it is he\) January 29th 06 08:35 PM

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"G4KFK" wrote in message
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G1LVN (for it is he) wrote:
DON'T TELL ME... sweeney IS _IDI-AMIN :-)


Indeed - Jack Regan has moved to Kampala and is now active as 5X5IDI

G1LVN wins the fiver!

I bought a new sig with it...


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