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[email protected] March 20th 06 01:19 AM

The ARS NOT to move to Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau
 
From: The ARRL Letter
Vol. 25, No. 11
March 17, 2006
--------------------

==AMATEUR RADIO POISED TO STAY WITHIN FCC WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS
BUREAU

The FCC approved a proposal March 17 to create a new Public Safety and
Homeland Security Bureau (PS&HSB) that would assume some functions now
under
the umbrella of the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau (WTB). But it
appears
that the Amateur Radio Service--now within the WTB's Public Safety and
Critical Infrastructure Division, headed by Michael J. Wilhelm,
WS6BR--will
remain within the WTB, according to Anthony Dale, Acting Director of
the
FCC's Office of Managing Director (OMD).

"The Critical Infrastructure piece--that's things like taxi cabs,
Amateur
Radio, chemical plants, all that type of thing--those are not public
safety-specific functions," Dale said in response to a reporter's
question
following the FCC open meeting. "The plan is to keep those in the
Wireless
Bureau."

Creation of the new bureau was a topic of some discussion during a
meeting
earlier this month of the ARRL Executive Committee. With the complete
details of the reorganization still uncertain, however, the League is
adopting a wait-and-see attitude for now.

Mika Savir, an attorney advisor within the FCC's OMD, presented the
proposal
to the Commission. "By this action, the Commission would take an
important
step to better address public safety, homeland security, national
security,
emergency management and preparedness and disaster management," she
said.
"As you know, the Commission has a statutory mandate to assist in
promoting
the safety of life and property, as well as the national defense,
through
the use of communications."

An official document spelling out just which functions and services
will end
up where has not yet been made public, and even Dale did not appear to
be
entirely clear on specifics. He and others stressed that some PS&HSB
functions may overlap those of other bureaus.

The FCC said the changes are subject to Congressional notification
before
they become effective. In addition, the Commission must work with the
National Treasury Employees Union Local 209 to secure its approval for
issues affecting the Commission's workforce.

The last changes affecting the functions of the WTB occurred in 2003.
This
reorganization has been several months in the planning. Some observers
had
speculated that Amateur Radio would be shifted to the PS&HSB, thus
removing
it from the WTB's market-based approach to regulation. Moving some of
the
WTB's current responsibilities to the new bureau, however, could speed
up
the process of moving Amateur Radio-related proceedings through the
Commission.

The PS&HSB will have three divisions: Policy, Public Communications
Outreach
& Operations, and Communications Systems Analysis. In addition, the
bureau
will have a front office consisting of senior leadership and management
staff.

The new bureau would be the seventh within the FCC. Commissioner
Michael
Copps said the proposed reorganization goes beyond "reshuffling" of
the
bureaucracy. He expressed the hope that creation of the new Public
Safety
and Homeland Security Bureau would be viewed as "the first step in
putting
the FCC out front--where it long should have been--in providing
communications security for all Americans in this dangerous age."

The Commission voted unanimously to approve creation of the new bureau.


Dave Heil March 20th 06 01:28 AM

The ARS NOT to move to Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau
 
wrote:
From: The ARRL Letter
Vol. 25, No. 11
March 17, 2006
--------------------

==AMATEUR RADIO POISED TO STAY WITHIN FCC WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS
BUREAU



Thank you for posting an amateur radio policy item in this sewer.

Dave K8MN

an old friend March 20th 06 03:40 AM

The ARS NOT to move to Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau
 

wrote:
From: The ARRL Letter
Vol. 25, No. 11
March 17, 2006
--------------------

==AMATEUR RADIO POISED TO STAY WITHIN FCC WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS
BUREAU

The FCC approved a proposal March 17 to create a new Public Safety and
Homeland Security Bureau (PS&HSB) that would assume some functions now
under
the umbrella of the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau (WTB). But it
appears
that the Amateur Radio Service--now within the WTB's Public Safety and
Critical Infrastructure Division, headed by Michael J. Wilhelm,
WS6BR--will
remain within the WTB, according to Anthony Dale, Acting Director of
the
FCC's Office of Managing Director (OMD).

"The Critical Infrastructure piece--that's things like taxi cabs,
Amateur
Radio, chemical plants, all that type of thing--those are not public
safety-specific functions," Dale said in response to a reporter's
question
following the FCC open meeting. "The plan is to keep those in the
Wireless
Bureau."

nice to have somethng to discuss

OTOH WE are NOT seen as a public saety function. HMMMM not good for
the safety of ARS freqs id say


K4YZ March 20th 06 06:54 AM

The ARS NOT to move to Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau
 

nobodys old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: The ARRL Letter
Vol. 25, No. 11
March 17, 2006
--------------------

==AMATEUR RADIO POISED TO STAY WITHIN FCC WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS
BUREAU

The FCC approved a proposal March 17 to create a new Public Safety and
Homeland Security Bureau (PS&HSB) that would assume some functions now
under
the umbrella of the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau (WTB). But it
appears
that the Amateur Radio Service--now within the WTB's Public Safety and
Critical Infrastructure Division, headed by Michael J. Wilhelm,
WS6BR--will
remain within the WTB, according to Anthony Dale, Acting Director of
the
FCC's Office of Managing Director (OMD).

"The Critical Infrastructure piece--that's things like taxi cabs,
Amateur
Radio, chemical plants, all that type of thing--those are not public
safety-specific functions," Dale said in response to a reporter's
question
following the FCC open meeting. "The plan is to keep those in the
Wireless
Bureau."


nice to have somethng to discuss


Discuss WHAT? A NON event?

OTOH WE are NOT seen as a public saety function. HMMMM not good for
the safety of ARS freqs id say


This will have nothing to do with the "safety of ARS freqs", Mork.

Getting folks to rally and finally push through ONE of the
"spectrum protection act" bills that has been in front of Congress over
the last 20 years WOULD, however no one seems to want to REALLY "do"
anything to make those happen.

Steve, K4YZ


an old friend March 20th 06 07:22 AM

The ARS NOT to move to Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau
 

K4YZ wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:


ToS violation steve
wrote:


and another Tos violation
From: The ARRL Letter
Vol. 25, No. 11
March 17, 2006


following the FCC open meeting. "The plan is to keep those in the
Wireless
Bureau."


nice to have somethng to discuss


Discuss WHAT? A NON event?

OTOH WE are NOT seen as a public saety function. HMMMM not good for
the safety of ARS freqs id say


This will have nothing to do with the "safety of ARS freqs", Mork.


another ToS violation steve

if we were being classed as public safety I am sure it improve our hold
on those freqs


Getting folks to rally and finally push through ONE of the
"spectrum protection act" bills that has been in front of Congress over
the last 20 years WOULD, however no one seems to want to REALLY "do"
anything to make those happen.

Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ March 20th 06 09:19 AM

The ARS NOT to move to Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau
 

cheated an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:


ToS violation steve


Where?

wrote:


and another Tos violation


Where?

From: The ARRL Letter
Vol. 25, No. 11
March 17, 2006


following the FCC open meeting. "The plan is to keep those in the
Wireless
Bureau."

nice to have somethng to discuss


Discuss WHAT? A NON event?

OTOH WE are NOT seen as a public saety function. HMMMM not good for
the safety of ARS freqs id say


This will have nothing to do with the "safety of ARS freqs", Mork.


another ToS violation steve


Where?

if we were being classed as public safety I am sure it improve our hold
on those freqs


No we won't.

TRY and understand the difference between "public safety" and
"Amateur Radio", Mork.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend March 20th 06 10:03 AM

yet another thread hijacked by steve in his campaign of violeting Google rules
 

K4YZ wrote:
cheated an old friend wrote:

yet another


[email protected] March 20th 06 11:34 PM

The ARS NOT to move to Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau
 

an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: The ARRL Letter
Vol. 25, No. 11
March 17, 2006
--------------------

==AMATEUR RADIO POISED TO STAY WITHIN FCC WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS
BUREAU

The FCC approved a proposal March 17 to create a new Public Safety and
Homeland Security Bureau (PS&HSB) that would assume some functions now
under
the umbrella of the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau (WTB). But it
appears
that the Amateur Radio Service--now within the WTB's Public Safety and
Critical Infrastructure Division, headed by Michael J. Wilhelm,
WS6BR--will
remain within the WTB, according to Anthony Dale, Acting Director of
the
FCC's Office of Managing Director (OMD).

"The Critical Infrastructure piece--that's things like taxi cabs,
Amateur
Radio, chemical plants, all that type of thing--those are not public
safety-specific functions," Dale said in response to a reporter's
question
following the FCC open meeting. "The plan is to keep those in the
Wireless
Bureau."

nice to have somethng to discuss

OTOH WE are NOT seen as a public saety function.


I wonder how hard the ARRL worked to get us classified with PS&HSB?

HMMMM not good for
the safety of ARS freqs id say


Perhaps. I'm just dumbfounded why we're wasting spectrum on
high-definition TV? Anyone who wanted better TV has cable or dish.


K4YZ March 21st 06 01:01 PM

Feeble Five Flounderings
 

wrote:
an_old_fiend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
cheated an old friend wrote:


yet another


Mark, try to understand, "MARS IS Amateur Radio!" and "Amateur
Radio ISNT Public Safety!" and another on-topic thread IS
ruined.


If it's "ruined", it was ruined by Markie making 6 or 7 spin off
threads just to try and dilute his red-hatted-monkey dance.

No YOU chime in with nothing to offer either even though I know it
was you who put the first non-event report up.

Business as usual...

Steve, K4YZ


kb9rqz@mark_morgan.com March 21st 06 03:40 PM

The ARS NOT to move to Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau
 
On 20 Mar 2006 15:34:35 -0800, wrote:


an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: The ARRL Letter
Vol. 25, No. 11


nice to have somethng to discuss

OTOH WE are NOT seen as a public saety function.


I wonder how hard the ARRL worked to get us classified with PS&HSB?


did they work toward that gol at all?

you are still a memebr you might ask?

HMMMM not good for
the safety of ARS freqs id say


Perhaps.

sorry you areit isn't "preahps it is "not Good" it may also be not bad
but surely being classiefied with EMS and therefore above taxi cabs
would have been good for us in the long run both here and in our
neighboor Canada where vhf bandwidth is also at rsik
I'm just dumbfounded why we're wasting spectrum on
high-definition TV?

yep but that is money and if the money for it comes to the FCC at al
it might do some good by acident

Anyone who wanted better TV has cable or dish.


yep

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