Back in the day when I got my Advanced, my Tech class Elmer pointed out that
if you don't know the code, how do you know what repeater you're on?

Most automated identifications are still Morse code and it is still legal.

It is sad that Morse code is so under utilized. It is a testimony to the
lack of interest in the greatest tool for weak signal work. If you have no
interest in learning Morse code, than you affirm that your communications
capabilities should be limited to voice capabilities. Who in emergency
communications believes that their capabilities should be limited by a lack
of expertise? Perhaps they believe that emergency commumications should be
restricted to FRS? Rediculous!

Still, we see even avid DXers throw in the towel on a weak one when Morse
code would have cut through the pile-up in a heart beat. A friend in High
School made DXCC in 2 years on CW only, with a 100 watt radio and dipoles!

The fact remains that those who hate the code are clueless to its
effectiveness. Their only defense is ignorance. Sad!

AC6TK


wrote in message
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N9OGL wrote:
Why??? Morse Code does not make you a better radio operator, On air
experiance does. This idea that morse code makes you a better operatror
is nothing more then a myth.

Todd N9OGL
General Class Operator

You only say that because you had to struggle to get the 5 wpm code
required now, Toad.

JB wrote:
Back in the day when I got my Advanced, my Tech class Elmer pointed out that
if you don't know the code, how do you know what repeater you're on?
you know byt eh freq and pl tone you have set

It is sad that Morse code is so under utilized. It is a testimony to the
lack of interest in the greatest tool for weak signal work. If you have no
interest in learning Morse code, than you affirm that your communications
capabilities should be limited to voice capabilities. Who in emergency
communications believes that their capabilities should be limited by a lack
of expertise? Perhaps they believe that emergency commumications should be
restricted to FRS? Rediculous!

Still, we see even avid DXers throw in the towel on a weak one when Morse
code would have cut through the pile-up in a heart beat. A friend in High
School made DXCC in 2 years on CW only, with a 100 watt radio and dipoles!

The fact remains that those who hate the code are clueless to its
effectiveness. Their only defense is ignorance. Sad!

AC6TK
butyou need to face facts it aint happening

"JB" wrote in message
...
Back in the day when I got my Advanced, my Tech class Elmer pointed out
that
if you don't know the code, how do you know what repeater you're on?

Most automated identifications are still Morse code and it is still legal.

It is sad that Morse code is so under utilized. It is a testimony to the
lack of interest in the greatest tool for weak signal work. If you have
no
interest in learning Morse code, than you affirm that your communications
capabilities should be limited to voice capabilities. Who in emergency
communications believes that their capabilities should be limited by a
lack
of expertise? Perhaps they believe that emergency commumications should
be
restricted to FRS? Rediculous!

Still, we see even avid DXers throw in the towel on a weak one when Morse
code would have cut through the pile-up in a heart beat. A friend in High
School made DXCC in 2 years on CW only, with a 100 watt radio and dipoles!

The fact remains that those who hate the code are clueless to its
effectiveness. Their only defense is ignorance. Sad!

AC6TK

You made good points until your last paragraph. I do not have the time nor
desire to learn the code. If I were to learn it long enough to pass the test
and never use it from day to day, then it will soon be forgotten. I think
that if a person wants to advance, code should be part of the process and
tested on a regular basis, but also have restrictions for those that do not
or cannot use code or the hobby will fade away. To do away with the code
would be wrong as it has it's uses, but to expect everyone to learn it keeps
fresh blood from entering into a noble but dying hobby.

"DrDeath" wrote in
:

"JB" wrote in message
...
Back in the day when I got my Advanced, my Tech class Elmer pointed out
that
if you don't know the code, how do you know what repeater you're on?

Most automated identifications are still Morse code and it is still
legal.

It is sad that Morse code is so under utilized. It is a testimony to
the lack of interest in the greatest tool for weak signal work. If you
have no
interest in learning Morse code, than you affirm that your
communications capabilities should be limited to voice capabilities.
Who in emergency communications believes that their capabilities should
be limited by a lack
of expertise? Perhaps they believe that emergency commumications
should be
restricted to FRS? Rediculous!

Still, we see even avid DXers throw in the towel on a weak one when
Morse code would have cut through the pile-up in a heart beat. A
friend in High School made DXCC in 2 years on CW only, with a 100 watt
radio and dipoles!

The fact remains that those who hate the code are clueless to its
effectiveness. Their only defense is ignorance. Sad!

AC6TK

You made good points until your last paragraph. I do not have the time
nor desire to learn the code. If I were to learn it long enough to pass
the test and never use it from day to day, then it will soon be
forgotten. I think that if a person wants to advance, code should be
part of the process and tested on a regular basis, but also have
restrictions for those that do not or cannot use code or the hobby will
fade away. To do away with the code would be wrong as it has it's uses,
but to expect everyone to learn it keeps fresh blood from entering into
a noble but dying hobby.



No. If they're too lazy to learn CW they can stick with CB, FRS, Cell
Phones, and two tin cans with a piece of string in between.

SC

"JB" wrote in :

Back in the day when I got my Advanced, my Tech class Elmer pointed out
that if you don't know the code, how do you know what repeater you're
on?

Most automated identifications are still Morse code and it is still
legal.

It is sad that Morse code is so under utilized. It is a testimony to
the lack of interest in the greatest tool for weak signal work. If you
have no interest in learning Morse code, than you affirm that your
communications capabilities should be limited to voice capabilities.
Who in emergency communications believes that their capabilities should
be limited by a lack of expertise? Perhaps they believe that emergency
commumications should be restricted to FRS? Rediculous!

Still, we see even avid DXers throw in the towel on a weak one when
Morse code would have cut through the pile-up in a heart beat. A friend
in High School made DXCC in 2 years on CW only, with a 100 watt radio
and dipoles!

The fact remains that those who hate the code are clueless to its
effectiveness. Their only defense is ignorance. Sad!

AC6TK


Amen brother.

Why would anyone want to belong to the ARRL. All they care about is your
doe. Save the doe for dinner...


"N9OGL" wrote in message
ups.com...
Why??? Morse Code does not make you a better radio operator, On air
experiance does. This idea that morse code makes you a better operatror
is nothing more then a myth.

Todd N9OGL
General Class Operator

In article t,
Slow Code wrote:

Please email mail this to your Division Directors and Section managers.
With a loud voice, maybe we can get the ARRL to work for us instead of
against us:


No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements
required for their license class.


The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


sc

The real demise of ham radio is not from dropping the code, but from
making it such a elitist group that nobody wants to join. There is
safety in numbers. We need to make the numbers bigger not smaller.

The Wasp wrote:
In article t,
Slow Code wrote:


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


sc

The real demise of ham radio is not from dropping the code, but from
making it such a elitist group that nobody wants to join. There is
safety in numbers. We need to make the numbers bigger not smaller.

well said

The Wasp wrote in
:

In article t,
Slow Code wrote:

Please email mail this to your Division Directors and Section managers.
With a loud voice, maybe we can get the ARRL to work for us instead of
against us:


No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all
elements required for their license class.


The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


sc

The real demise of ham radio is not from dropping the code, but from
making it such a elitist group that nobody wants to join. There is
safety in numbers. We need to make the numbers bigger not smaller.



Yes. One big happy CB like family with a few Homo's thrown in to make it
more perverted.

sc