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dxAce July 16th 06 02:22 PM

(OT) : Democrat's Out-Sourcing "Hate America" To Canada !
 


John Barnard wrote:

J. D. B. wrote:
Sorry John, do some reading for once as that is the reality of the
Canadian system. You'll actually learn something if you do research
yourself and not just listen to NPR and CNN.

Now, on the other hand, if you live in the U.K., you'll still have
healthcare through the end of the year, but if you are too old, they
just let you die as it is not worth the expenditure to keep someone
old alive even longer. But again, hey, your estate gets to keep the
money!

Come on, this isn't really John now is it? Hillary Clinton, is that
you?

John Barnard wrote:

You are one delusional mofo! Lay off the Bush sauce and you'll be
able to handle reality.


JB


Here are your words:

If you get sick late in the year, and the healthcare
facility/hospital shut down for the rest of the year because it ran
out of government money (a typical scenario in Canada), there will be
no one to give you any care and you'll just die.


Pray tell, oh wise one, from what source are you getting this
information? You claim that this is a typical scenario in Canada, which
is utter BS (= Bush ****), which means that it happens all the time. It
seems rather strange that none of this seems to make the headlines or news.


Maybe they just don't want you to know the truth? Not surprising, since the
government in CanaDuh woud fall if you ever discovered the truth.

BTW, I overheard this while I was visiting in Toronto and witnessed an
accident: " Wow! The police and ambulance are much quicker here than in
Atlanta".


Did the accident involve the police and the ambulance racing to the donut shop?
Maybe that's why they appeared to be quicker.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



J. D. B. July 16th 06 02:48 PM

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
 
Sorry Blow Code, but you cannot turn back the hands of time. The 13 & 20
WPM tests are gone forever. And soon, the CW testing requirement will
be eliminated completely. It's the will of the majority. It's
evolution. You can whine, cry and carry on all you want about the CW
testing requirement. It is going the way of the buggy whip, the Ford
Model-T, dinosaurs, the carrier pigeons, and a host of other old,
outdated, and unnecessary things of the past. Good Bye and Good Riddance.

Slow Code wrote:

Yes, just as long as it's still required to get a license and the speeds
need to be bumped back up to 13 & 20wpm again.

SC


Cecil Moore July 16th 06 03:57 PM

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewithother.
 
Slow Code wrote:
Yes, just as long as it's still required to get a license and the speeds
need to be bumped back up to 13 & 20wpm again.


If CW testing is such a good thing, let's bump it up to 50.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

an old freind July 16th 06 05:03 PM

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
 

J. D. B. wrote:
Sorry Blow Code, but you cannot turn back the hands of time. The 13 & 20
WPM tests are gone forever. And soon, the CW testing requirement will
be eliminated completely. It's the will of the majority. It's
evolution. You can whine, cry and carry on all you want about the CW
testing requirement. It is going the way of the buggy whip, the Ford
Model-T, dinosaurs, the carrier pigeons, and a host of other old,
outdated, and unnecessary things of the past. Good Bye and Good Riddance.


not the majority prehaps it is the will of and judgement of those that
are supposed to serve the bets interest of the people

the best interest of the people are served but ending code testing and
the code culture that has dominated it and sent it on a downword slide

not certain we can fix it with NOCode but it will be easier to try
Slow Code wrote:

Yes, just as long as it's still required to get a license and the speeds
need to be bumped back up to 13 & 20wpm again.

SC



Alun L. Palmer July 16th 06 06:15 PM

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
 
"J. D. B." wrote in
:

Dee, you can disagree all you want. The fact is that the world is
moving on and away from CW testing. Not the mode, but the testing
requirement.
It is just outdated and not necessary. If you want to learn it and
then use it, great. The time has come to stop forcing an old mode onto
people. We can debate the merits of CW all day. In 200 years, no one
will be using it. It will die a natural death like all languages
because the world evolves. Better things come along. And like many
humans, you are resisting change because people hate change. But
change is inevitable. You cannot stop this change and it is a change
for the better even if you won't admit it. History will show the only
way to save the Amateur Radio Service and help its growth is to evolve
and change. Out with the old and in with the new. Those that won't
evolve will fade from the earth just like stone-age man. Good bye CW
testing requirement. Your departure is long, long overdue.

Dee Flint wrote:


Again I disagree. That analogy is not really valid. A better one
would be comparing it to driving an automobile with a stick shift. I
personally feel that every one who drives should be required to know
how to drive a stick. They often get better mileage than automatics as
an experienced driver can do a better job of selecting the shift point
than a mere gadget. More people might select stick shifts if only
they knew how to drive one.

Dee, N8UZE




As it happens, I do think people should have to learn on a stick shift, but
I don't support code testing. If you can't drive a stick shift, you can't
drive my car, as every car I've had has had a stick shift and so will every
car I buy in future. OTOH, every rig I've bought has come with a mic, and
none of them came with a key. Now, I know you can get some QRP rigs that
are CW only.

The point is, there is a very real chance that it may be necessary to drive
someone else's car in an emergency, or even just to help out. What happens
when you need to get someone to the emergency room and the only car
available is a stick shift? It's no good saying that statistically manual
shifts are declining in sales, as there are plenty of us who will never buy
an automatic.

OK, maybe you can say that you don't own a mic, and all the rigs in your
shack are hooked up to a key (good luck on the local repeater!). What then
is the realistic scenario where I will have to use one of your radios to
save the world? (or even to save the next door neighbour) Doesn't seem to
likely, does it?

Al Klein July 16th 06 07:04 PM

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
 
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 00:49:00 GMT, (Hymie)
wrote:

Very well put. Every mode is useful, important and valuable in different
situations. What's unfortunate, is that the only modes the anti-CW crowd
wants and supports are "Lazy Mode" and "Retard mode"


Even those who tout digital modes - they want to buy an interface and
software and "be" on digital. Then they wonder why the signal they're
hearing, that sounds just like the digital mode they use, doesn't work
on their setup. Maybe because a PSK program won't decode SSTV?

Reminds me of the GPRS "exerts" who can't understand why changing the
"code" on their radios doesn't eliminate the interference from the guy
next door.

The anti-CW crowd wants no code and a written test you can memorize
the answers to. It's their "right" to be on the air, isn't it? Even
if they need 2 more clues to be totally clueless?

an_old_friend July 16th 06 07:26 PM

Elimination of CW is a loss in the number of ways we can communicatewith other.
 

Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 00:49:00 GMT, (Hymie)
wrote:

Very well put. Every mode is useful, important and valuable in different
situations. What's unfortunate, is that the only modes the anti-CW crowd
wants and supports are "Lazy Mode" and "Retard mode"


Even those who tout digital modes - they want to buy an interface and
software and "be" on digital. Then they wonder why the signal they're
hearing, that sounds just like the digital mode they use, doesn't work
on their setup. Maybe because a PSK program won't decode SSTV?


learn what you are tlaking about psk31 sounds very little like sstv and
most of the programs that can demolate it show you a spectrograhand
they look nothing alike

there is some time confusion in wether that sgnal BPSK 31 or QPSK31 but
the marvels of Windows wallo me to run the output of the sound card
interface to at least 2 program so it can be worked out

you just want to bash any ham that doesnot follow your morse fetish

Reminds me of the GPRS "exerts" who can't understand why changing the
"code" on their radios doesn't eliminate the interference from the guy
next door.

The anti-CW crowd wants no code and a written test you can memorize
the answers to. It's their "right" to be on the air, isn't it? Even
if they need 2 more clues to be totally clueless?

it is our right and everybody else right that any restriction to our
access to public spectrum be "neccisary and proper" (one of 3 clauses
in the constitution that give the power to regulate the airwave to the
govet at all) otherwise the 10 reserving all right and power to the
sates or the people applies modifing that is the thrid place where the
consititution of US touches on this issue mby making the constitution
and the TREATIES made the supreme law of the land

according the Govt lost the POWER to impose Morse Code test on the ARS
unless it can be justified under some other powere of the Constitution

I find it interesting that the ProCode tes crowd has such disrespect
for that document


jawod July 17th 06 02:44 AM

OT: Outsourcing
 
Slow Code wrote:
"RHF" wrote in
ups.com:


JB - Spoken like a True Red and White
{Blue-in-the-Face} Canadian ~ RHF
.
.
. .




Kanadians are more Red... Commie Red.

slow code is lo-co

an_old_friend July 17th 06 03:00 AM

OT: Outsourcing
 

jawod wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
"RHF" wrote in
ups.com:


JB - Spoken like a True Red and White
{Blue-in-the-Face} Canadian ~ RHF
.
.
. .




Kanadians are more Red... Commie Red.

slow code is lo-co

yea he canada arabs jews it seems, Ham radio, republicans and democrats

anybody he doesn't hate


jawod July 17th 06 03:24 AM

(OT) : Democrat's Out-Sourcing "Hate America" To Canada !
 
J. D. B. wrote:
Sorry John, do some reading for once as that is the reality of the
Canadian system. You'll actually learn something if you do research
yourself and not just listen to NPR and CNN.

Now, on the other hand, if you live in the U.K., you'll still have
healthcare through the end of the year, but if you are too old, they
just let you die as it is not worth the expenditure to keep someone old
alive even longer. But again, hey, your estate gets to keep the money!

Come on, this isn't really John now is it? Hillary Clinton, is that you?

John Barnard wrote:

You are one delusional mofo! Lay off the Bush sauce and you'll be able
to handle reality.



JB

Oh Brother!
Reality check time: Why don't YOU read a bit about Medicare D?
Aging baby boomers are about to be screwed in ways they couldn't even
imagine.

Insurance companies entirely control Congressional debate and actually
write the rules. Most of Congress doesn't even READ what they're
signing on to.

O'Reilly, is that you?


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