RESULT
remove rec.radio.amateur.policy

The Big-8 Management Board has decided by consensus to remove the
newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.policy. Voting began on 01 Jul 2006, and ended on
02 Jul 2006.

This group will be removed on 17 Jul 2006.


SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:

There were no comments made.


RATIONALE: Remove rec.radio.amateur.policy

The last official message was in May 2006.

There are other more suitable means of discussing radio policy, so
rec.radio.amateur.policy is not a suitable candidate for conversion to
a moderated newsgroup.


HISTORY:

The newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.policy was created in April 1986, with the
first approved message in May 1986.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
rec.radio.amateur.policy

PROPONENT:

Jim Riley


CHANGE HISTORY:

2006-07-05 Result prepared.
2006-06-26 2nd RFD (Last Call For Comments)
2006-06-19 Slightly reformatted and posted to NAN
2006-06-16 Original RFD.

Jim Riley wrote:
RESULT
remove rec.radio.amateur.policy
get help troll

Jim Riley wrote:
RESULT
remove rec.radio.amateur.policy

The Big-8 Management Board has decided by consensus to remove the
newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.policy. Voting began on 01 Jul 2006, and ended on
02 Jul 2006.

This group will be removed on 17 Jul 2006.


SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:

There were no comments made.


RATIONALE: Remove rec.radio.amateur.policy

The last official message was in May 2006.


Not true, I posted a message on our echolink system on June of this
year.



There are other more suitable means of discussing radio policy, so
rec.radio.amateur.policy is not a suitable candidate for conversion to
a moderated newsgroup.


The PROBLEM with this group is it has people who flame the group and
don't belong here. remove those people and you fix the problem.


HISTORY:

The newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.policy was created in April 1986, with the
first approved message in May 1986.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
rec.radio.amateur.policy

PROPONENT:

Jim Riley


CHANGE HISTORY:

2006-07-05 Result prepared.
2006-06-26 2nd RFD (Last Call For Comments)
2006-06-19 Slightly reformatted and posted to NAN
2006-06-16 Original RFD.


Todd Daugherty N9OGL

On 6 Jul 2006 21:47:06 -0700, N9OGL wrote:

Jim Riley wrote:
RESULT
remove rec.radio.amateur.policy

The Big-8 Management Board has decided by consensus to remove the
newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.policy. Voting began on 01 Jul 2006, and ended on
02 Jul 2006.

This group will be removed on 17 Jul 2006.


SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:

There were no comments made.


RATIONALE: Remove rec.radio.amateur.policy

The last official message was in May 2006.


Not true, I posted a message on our echolink system on June of this
year.

Read that again. You aren't a Usenet admin, and an "official message"
is one which has been posted to a news group by an admin. That
message would probably be the one posted by Paul Schleck at about that
time.



There are other more suitable means of discussing radio policy, so
rec.radio.amateur.policy is not a suitable candidate for conversion to
a moderated newsgroup.


The PROBLEM with this group is it has people who flame the group and
don't belong here. remove those people and you fix the problem.

Wiseman and Morgan both have ham licenses and are responsible for at
least 90% of the spam in here. Morgan even has seven or eight nyms he
uses so that he can exceed (and abuse) Google's posting limits.

Schleck wanted to make this a moderated group. The admins said "no"
and now are going to remove it completely, if you believe this message.

I say leave it alone. Let Morgan and Wiseman remain here while the
rest of us move elsewhere when we want serious discussion. Robeson
has wisely gone to a web board, as have most other serious posters.
I won't name the board, because I don't want to give Morgan or his
play pals any additional information.

rrap is a good place to keep Wiseman et al. If they are busy here,
they won't disrupt serious discussion elsewhere.

There are no sociopaths on QRZ.com or QTH.com. Both
Fred, AA7BQ and Scott, KA9FOX do a *great* job,
by quickly and permanently throwing nut cases off their boards.
We owe both these gentlemen much, for giving us a place to go
for serious undisturbed discussions.


Lloyd

In Lloyd writes:

On 6 Jul 2006 21:47:06 -0700, N9OGL wrote:

Jim Riley wrote:
RESULT
remove rec.radio.amateur.policy

The Big-8 Management Board has decided by consensus to remove the
newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.policy. Voting began on 01 Jul 2006, and ended on
02 Jul 2006.

This group will be removed on 17 Jul 2006.


SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:

There were no comments made.


RATIONALE: Remove rec.radio.amateur.policy

The last official message was in May 2006.


Not true, I posted a message on our echolink system on June of this
year.

Read that again. You aren't a Usenet admin, and an "official message"
is one which has been posted to a news group by an admin. That
message would probably be the one posted by Paul Schleck at about that
time.



There are other more suitable means of discussing radio policy, so
rec.radio.amateur.policy is not a suitable candidate for conversion to
a moderated newsgroup.


The PROBLEM with this group is it has people who flame the group and
don't belong here. remove those people and you fix the problem.

Wiseman and Morgan both have ham licenses and are responsible for at
least 90% of the spam in here. Morgan even has seven or eight nyms he
uses so that he can exceed (and abuse) Google's posting limits.

Schleck wanted to make this a moderated group. The admins said "no"
and now are going to remove it completely, if you believe this message.

I say leave it alone. Let Morgan and Wiseman remain here while the
rest of us move elsewhere when we want serious discussion. Robeson
has wisely gone to a web board, as have most other serious posters.
I won't name the board, because I don't want to give Morgan or his
play pals any additional information.


Someone is playing pranks with forged messages. There is no official
plan to delete rec.radio.amateur.policy, nor will there be. There was a
previous forged message in the same vein with a bogus Request for
Discussion (RFD) for a rec.radio.amateur.policy.moderated newsgroup.
This was a counterfeit RFD, modified from an actual RFD for
soc.men.moderated. This latest counterfeit post was based on a deletion
announcement for one of the obsolete comp.sources.* newsgroups, many of
which haven't been used in over a decade. I wonder if it was the same
individual who was sending forged messages, in my name, through the
aioe.org news server. The administrators at aioe.org assure me that
such forgeries are now blocked. Thanks go to them for their interest in
promptly and decisively dealing with that unfortunate incident. If
another Usenet post appears to be from me, you can authenticate it by
the Path and other headers indicating it is from Novia/Newscene, and not
another source. I also do not use obscene language in my posts,
including phonetics for my callsign.

The only effort towards a moderated rec.radio.amateur.* newsgroup that I
am aware of is still in the planning stages, and will be for a new
moderated discussion newsgroup that will leave the existing newsgroups
alone. No one in authority has said "no" to us. In fact, we have a
Usenet Group Mentor assigned and are working towards a proposal. I
posted a message to the rec.radio.amateur.policy newsgroup previously,
calling for volunteer moderators. Response has been sufficient that we
now have a suitable moderation team and can move forward. Watch this
newsgroup, and news.groups, for further information later this
summer/early fall. In accordance with Usenet group creation procedures,
there will be multiple announcements, and ample opportunity for
interested parties to debate and vote on any proposal for a new
newsgroup.

--
73, Paul W. Schleck, K3FU

http://www.novia.net/~pschleck/
Finger for PGP Public Key

(Jim Riley) writes:

RESULT
remove rec.radio.amateur.policy

The Big-8 Management Board has decided by consensus to remove the
newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.policy. Voting began on 01 Jul 2006, and
ended on 02 Jul 2006.

To confirm what I suspect everyone here already knew - this is not
true. The "proposal" referenced was never even introduced anywhere, let
alone considered.

- Tim Skirvin )
Chair, Big-8 Management Board
--
http://www.big-8.org/ Big-8 Management Board
http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/ Skirv's Homepage FISH *

Lloyd wrote:
On 6 Jul 2006 21:47:06 -0700, N9OGL wrote:

Jim Riley wrote:

I say leave it alone. Let Morgan and Wiseman remain here while the
rest of us move elsewhere when we want serious discussion. Robeson
has wisely gone to a web board, as have most other serious posters.
I won't name the board, because I don't want to give Morgan or his
play pals any additional information.
more lies robeson can't saty awayform the NG and **** stroms

I guess that other baord will not alow him to exercise his demons

Lloyd wrote:
rrap is a good place to keep Wiseman et al. If they are busy here,
they won't disrupt serious discussion elsewhere.

There are no sociopaths on QRZ.com or QTH.com. Both
Fred, AA7BQ and Scott, KA9FOX do a *great* job,
by quickly and permanently throwing nut cases off their boards.
We owe both these gentlemen much, for giving us a place to go
for serious undisturbed discussions.
why thank you for agreeing that I am not a sociopath since I post often
on QRZ


Lloyd

(Jim Riley) wrote in :


RESULT
remove rec.radio.amateur.policy

The Big-8 Management Board has decided by consensus to remove the
newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.policy. Voting began on 01 Jul 2006, and
ended on 02 Jul 2006.

This group will be removed on 17 Jul 2006.


SUMMARY OF DISCUSSION:

There were no comments made.


RATIONALE: Remove rec.radio.amateur.policy

The last official message was in May 2006.

There are other more suitable means of discussing radio policy, so
rec.radio.amateur.policy is not a suitable candidate for conversion to
a moderated newsgroup.


HISTORY:

The newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.policy was created in April 1986, with
the first approved message in May 1986.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
rec.radio.amateur.policy

PROPONENT:

Jim Riley


CHANGE HISTORY:

2006-07-05 Result prepared.
2006-06-26 2nd RFD (Last Call For Comments)
2006-06-19 Slightly reformatted and posted to NAN
2006-06-16 Original RFD.



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