wrote:

Robeson has been all full of himself in here about his alleged
"USMC service" yet he has presented zero-point-zero evidence
from anyone else (or any legitimate agency) that he ever
served on active USMC duty for any of his claimed "18 years."

Lennie, Lennie, LENNIE!

I'd think you'd have a bit more respect for your alleged IEEE
colleagues than to post even MORE blatant deceit under that
organization's e mail forwarding system.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

Cecil Moore wrote:

The same is true of sailing ships, hot-air balloons,
and horses. Do what turns you on and leave the
@#$%&$ federal government out of it.

-----------------REPLY BELOW-----------------

Cecil has it exactly right.

Bill, W6WRT


--

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Robeson has been all full of himself in here about his alleged
"USMC service" yet he has presented zero-point-zero evidence
from anyone else (or any legitimate agency) that he ever
served on active USMC duty for any of his claimed "18 years."

Lennie, Lennie, LENNIE!

I'd think you'd have a bit more respect for your alleged IEEE
colleagues than to post even MORE blatant deceit under that
organization's e mail forwarding system.

yours is the deciet

you have put No rpoof of YOUR service
and given us all plenty of reason to KNOW you lie about many things

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

Some old time ham in the area needs to step in and show the scouts
how ham
radio and CW can save lives and help communities in emergencies.

=====================================

In these days of mobile telephones, etc., morse code just gets in the
way of emergencies.

But there's nothing to prevent people who appreciate and love the
language of Morse, the way it sings, its universality, its beauty,
from continuing to use it way into the future.

It is the beauty of Morse, in plain English, never mind the
abbreviations, which boy scouts and others who show an interest should
be taught to appreciate.
----
Reg, G4FGQ

Reg Edwards wrote:
But there's nothing to prevent people who appreciate and love the
language of Morse, the way it sings, its universality, its beauty,
from continuing to use it way into the future.

The same is true of sailing ships, hot-air balloons,
and horses. Do what turns you on and leave the
@#$%&$ federal government out of it.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

It was a CQD actually....
but the point is,
the ham immediately alerted the Frankfurt, Olympic, Carpathia, et al and
told them to go save lives! Being simple Marconists however; they all said
'no' so the ham
grabbed his portable radio trunk, strapped a J-38 to his leg, jumped into
his skiff and madly paddled 46 hours straight out to the stricken ship, all
the while tapping
out rescue coordination efforts with his elbow, and.... wait... I forget,
where does it go from there?

rb


"David G. Nagel" wrote in message
...
Cecil Moore wrote:

Dirk wrote:

Ham's care more about operating appliances than knowing how to save a
lives.


How many times in the entire history of amateur radio
has a ham used CW to actually save a life? One would
think there would be a book full of examples by now.

A ham operator intercepted the SOS from the RMS Titanic.

uhhhh..... good point. Not sure what your point applies to... but OK, we all
agree that radio is a useful invention.
What were we talking about again?

rb


"David G. Nagel" wrote in message
...
an old friend wrote:
David G. Nagel wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:


Dirk wrote:


Ham's care more about operating appliances than knowing how to save a
lives.


How many times in the entire history of amateur radio
has a ham used CW to actually save a life? One would
think there would be a book full of examples by now.

A ham operator intercepted the SOS from the RMS Titanic.

how many life were saved thereby the Carpathia wheard the call and
arrived to save some folks what role did the ARS playing in saving even
one life that sorry day?


We aren't talking about failure to receive a CW SOS. Those ships that
responded did so after receiving word of the sinking by radio. They saved
many lives from the lifeboats which would otherwise have been lost to the
cold.

Dave N

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
m...
Reg Edwards wrote:
But there's nothing to prevent people who appreciate and love the
language of Morse, the way it sings, its universality, its beauty,
from continuing to use it way into the future.

The same is true of sailing ships, hot-air balloons,
and horses. Do what turns you on and leave the
@#$%&$ federal government out of it.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp
========================================

I like watching gleaming reciprocating stationary steam engines with 8
feet diameter flywheels. They turn me on too. The government doesn't
interfere. But there's not many about these days. ;o(

Turbines leave me cold!
----
Reg.

The Titanic knew their coordinates.... didn't slow the influx of H20....
The responding ships had radios too... didn't turn their props any
faster....

Answer to the question.... there was no system then.
CW can punch through if there is a human on the other end, where GPS/packet
says 'no signal'....
GPS is faster, where CW takes longer....
so one is obsolete, the other inferior.

rb


"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
.com...
Dave wrote:
David G. Nagel wrote:
A ham operator intercepted the SOS from the RMS Titanic.

Yep!! It happened once!

If CW had not existed at the time, how would things have
turned out differently? If the present GPS-based system
had existed at the time, how would things have turned out?
Which system is presently inferior and virtually obsolete?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Good Lord, are you saying that a 1 jigawatt transmitter and an Infinity
times Pi speed ham operator couldn't telepathically float a swamped ship,
and thwart hypothermia of people in the water???
How crass.

Can you tell I'm off today and quite bored? LOL
rb



"Dave" wrote in message
. ..
Cecil Moore wrote:

Dave wrote:

David G. Nagel wrote:

A ham operator intercepted the SOS from the RMS Titanic.


Yep!! It happened once!


If CW had not existed at the time, how would things have
turned out differently? If the present GPS-based system
had existed at the time, how would things have turned out?
Which system is presently inferior and virtually obsolete?

C'mon Cecil, you've been licensed as long as I have. I Know you Know CW.
Does that mean we're virtually obsolete?

RE Titanic:

The same result would have happened. The ship hit an iceberg in poor
visibility. I don't think icebergs carry GPS transponders these days.

Now, the Titanic's GPS; does it have transponder capability? The older GPS
units do not. Anyway, after the crew slipped by the iceberg that ripped it
open, the radio op gets on the air and reports "SOS" or equivalent. The
nearest ships respond. Under conditions similar to 1914{?} the Titanic
still sinks. Many people still die. But, now we know to 20 feet exactly
where the ship was when it sank.

GPS won't make a difference. Neither will CW today.

I still enjoy CW.