Not Lloyd wrote:
wrote in message

Wow! It took you so long to say so little, Len!
so he is long winded?
Why not simply toss the "personal experience" gauntlet directly into her
chops and challenge Dee to a battle of the electronic wits at sunrise? I'm
sure it will do wonders for your machismo and, if it makes you feel that you
succeeded in one-upman****, perhaps you can even send her to her corner,
crying for mercy.
not likely Dee obviously lacks the snece for that
Go ahead, Len. Dazzle her with your brilliance and browbeat her if you can.
There...don't you feel better already? Was the relief good for you? Feel
vindicated?

"an old friend" wrote in message
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Not Lloyd wrote:
wrote in message

Wow! It took you so long to say so little, Len!
so he is long winded?
Why not simply toss the "personal experience" gauntlet directly into her
chops and challenge Dee to a battle of the electronic wits at sunrise? I'm
sure it will do wonders for your machismo and, if it makes you feel that
you
succeeded in one-upman****, perhaps you can even send her to her corner,
crying for mercy.
not likely Dee obviously lacks the snece for that
Go ahead, Len. Dazzle her with your brilliance and browbeat her if you
can.
There...don't you feel better already? Was the relief good for you? Feel
vindicated?


"snece"? Care to 'splain that, Lucy?

wrote:
On 29 Aug 2006 16:21:38 -0700, wrote:


wrote:
Woody wrote:

Since I don't know this Robitussin guy, I really can't say anything in reply
to this post....
rb

All you have to do (if you've got about 8 hours to spare) is go
through Google archives since before they bought it from
DejaNews several years ago. "Robitussin" has thousands of
postings in the same venal manner he continues to use...
especially his self-promotion as heroic USMC veteran which
he has never, ever proved through any third-party references,
digitized documents, or much of anything else other than his
own AOL home page and self-description on QRZ.

He is clearly into his own fantasy of imagined superpowers
without the aid of Stan Lee.

:-)

There's some real gems in there.

Lawsuits. Robeson sues people, or at least he says he does. In his
last lawsuit, he got an Upper Peninsula attorney gratis, then made
comments on who his free attorney's wife might be sleeping with.
Meanwhile, the person he is suing has yet to be served.

acrualywaiti ng now for 5 different lawsuits from steve

Five??? What are they for?

"Bricks through windows, slashed tires, terrorized wives." These are
bad things that happen to people who shoot their mouths off, as some
people have been told they do. Mind you, Robesin isn't the one
throwing bricks, slashing tires, or terrorizing wives. "Other people"
do this sort of stuff.

his other selves perhaps

I wonder if they've all manifested themselves on RRAP, or if there are
others for situations at work, at home, on vacation, when in CAP
uniform....

"Dialing..." On Robesin's personal authority as a male nurse and
failed Marine, he can make a phone call anywhere in the USA and have
you picked up on his say so. Really.

yep whow much safer we are for him

Mmmmm. I don't think it works that way. Now if it were a reverse
911....

"PUTZ, Putz, putz" Disagree with Robesin and you are a penis with a
yiddish accent.

and then he dinies he makes sexauly based insults

Anyone whose read his posts for 5 minutes knows that's a lie.

"PEDOPHILE, Pedophile, pedophile" If you disagree with Robesin and you
give of your time to a youth group, you are a pervert.

or just breath air (witness Tood Hans and Myself)

"HOMO, Homo, homo" Disagree with Robesin and you are queer, with lots
and lots of inuendo.

that is you todd Han and scores of others

Everybody's gay.

Robesin is a national hero, taking part in seven hostile actions as a
Marine. Yet, his only overseas assignment is Okinawa. Never been
injured, but discharged after only 18 years. Says he's retired. Says
he's disabled. Says it's not medical. Says he has been rehabilitated
by the VA. "Ask the VA."

well I he=ard the army in wirtiing today They afrim the existance of
my old unit

Robesin has given so many mixed messages over the conditions of his
"discharge" that no one be;lieves him any longer.

Robesin got back into uniform as a Tennessee State Guard "officer" of
some kind. Very short lived career.

maybe that gruop held him to professional stanards unlike CAP

Yikes!!!

Robesin got back into uniform as a Civil Air Patrol (CAP) "officer" of
some kind. Says he's a Major now. Photo of him in a sage green (not
blue) flight suit on his QRZ website. As far as I know, most CAP
volunteers are involved in training youth/Cadets. Hmmmm?

I know that does worry me too

Naw. It's everybody else you have to worry about.

Robesin got a vanity call, K4CAP, while in the CAP. The CAP HQ is at
Maxwell AFB in Montgomery, Alabama. Then he gave it up. Look where
his old call now resides.

Robesin got back into uniform as a male nurse. Says he doesn't wear
the white dress uniform. Probably just regular pants and a v-neck
lavendar colo[u]red top.

Robesin has military medals. He has lots of medals. Many of those
medals he didn't earn.

has he ever listed them?

Nope. I'd only be interested in the ones he earned. But that would
just raise more questions about seven hostile actions.

Robesin used to be an ASSISTANT NCOIC of NMC MARS on Okinawa. Doesn't
know the first thing about it. Doesn't know what a MOD is.

"MARS IS Amateur Radio" according to Robesin Yup, you heard it
here first.

A well know amateur radio outlet had the owners daughter's photo
featured in a prominent amateur radio publication. Robesin said she
was selling "Something" but it wasn't radios. He's a swell guy.

Robesin can make comments all day long about how your children won't
respect you. His child died from severe birth defects and he knows
that no one will make comments about his children. He's a swell guy.

Robesin needs to talk to the wives. He needs to talk to Len's wife.
He needs to talk to my wife. He needs to talk to Mark's wife. He
wants to talk to them on the phone or in person. He wants to mail
them. He wants to knock on my door to talk to my wife and posts
partial addresses so you know to expect a visit. Now he makes jokes
about Len and Mark's wife. He's a swell guy.

I could go on, but I don't have 8 hours as Len suggests...

So what's the real beef??? I disagreed with Robesin. He doesn't like
the way I think.

prehaps it was he disliked that you THINK at all

I'm not a Morse bot.

So what's the real, Real beef? I don't think the Morse Code exam
should be retained for an HF license in amateur radio.

me neither

looks liek we will win

With the tons and tons of sour grapes from these Morse Forever folks,
no one has won anything.

wrote:
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:21:53 -0400, Dave wrote:


I'll say it again ... INVESTMENT!!

If an activity is to have value it must have INVESTMENT.

Bull****

Your rudeness is clearly expressed in your one word response [above].

A more appropriate response, carrying the same meaning, but suitable for an open
list, would be 'bovine defacation'!

No wonder Ham Radio is going the way of CB with people who express themselves so
poorly and are unwilling to work for something they value.

Where your treasure is ... there your heart is!

/s/ Dave




I value my tech license not because I had to work for it but becuase
it has been a great return on my effort

if Ihad had to work twice as hard Id value it half as much
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

"Dave" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:21:53 -0400, Dave wrote:


I'll say it again ... INVESTMENT!!

If an activity is to have value it must have INVESTMENT.

Bull****

Your rudeness is clearly expressed in your one word response [above].

A more appropriate response, carrying the same meaning, but suitable for
an open list, would be 'bovine defacation'!

No wonder Ham Radio is going the way of CB with people who express
themselves so poorly and are unwilling to work for something they value.

Where your treasure is ... there your heart is!

/s/ Dave

Dave, he can't help it, his education is "limited" and doesn't know any
better - due to NO EFFORT - effort as he said was bull **** too. So you
can't expect much out of someone who has apparently made effort - to do
something.

Mork the dork - The man is right - IT IS AN INVESTMENT - OR shall we assume
your radios were given to you by the welfare office, paid for by pan
handling on the street, or some other way which YOU didn't have to pay for
them? ALSO - to get involved in such a hobby - ANY hobby - YOU MAKE AN
INVESTMENT in time and well - whatever to enjoy it. We won't go with effort
since it too is bull ****.

L.

Example.

A few months ago a group of ham radio operators went into the central Pacific
Ocean to an island named Swain's Island [ATOLL]. Swain's Island had just been
approved by the Ham radio Certificate Powers {American Radio relay League] as a
separate DX [distance] entity and as such it qualifies as an entry into the
various DX awards [DXCC being the prime award}. [DXCC means you have submitted
written proof of confirmed contacts with other ham radio operators in 100 or
more other countries [or entities].

The Hams operated from this rare location for about a week and then returned
home. There is no-one there today!

Let me digress into another of your questions: i.e. What is SSB?

Fifty years ago ham radio, and still today the AM broadcast band, transmitted
three components to put a signal on the air. First, was the carrier that set the
dial frequency e.g. 3950 KHz. The carrier contains NO information, it just sets
the dial frequency. Then voice audio was added to the carrier. This addition
[modulation] produced two audio signals around the carrier. One above the
carrier, the other below the carrier. So, the resulting signal had the carrier
and one upper side band and one lower sideband. The carrier contained 2X the
power of the audio. And the audio was redundant with 1/2 the audio power in each
sideband. The resulting signal can be described as Double Sideband Plus Carrier.

In the 50s and early 60s design techniques were incorporated to suppress the
carrier, which contained NO information; and to eliminate one of the redundant
sidebands. The resulting signal is Single Sideband [one audio channel] with
suppressed carrier. [SSB = Single Side Band]

wrote:

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:10:03 +0200 (CEST), Anonymous via the
Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote:


Dave Said:


As long a 'Rare DX' uses CW, CW will live and thrive in the DX community.

I've seen this DX term here and there, but, can't seem to find out what it stand for, or what a DX community
is. Can you post some info or links on what this is/involves?

well even if you are pulling our chain it is better than a lot of the
stuff posted

DX isseeking out Distant contacts for an eXchange of very basic data
and ocollecting these conacts and esp proof of these conacts for
various awadrd the DX comunity obviously is those into chasing down
these DX contacts

Thanks,

noonespecial

http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:18:12 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
wrote:

Al Klein said:

Eliminating a requirement is dumbing things down. But no one would
expect you to be able to understand that.

Well, let me ask, from the point of view of a potential noob to the hobby. What use is the code requirements?

In lieu of any other meaningful test (and there currently is none), it
shows a willingness to put in a minimum amount of effort.

But, given that many professional people like myself are stretched for time, what good does all the licensing
and code requirements do for you besides build up boundries to doing something new and fun?

You might ask that about anything. Given that insert group here
like myself are stretched for time, what do all the requirements for
insert something here do for anyone?

I'm in a pretty technical field, and I study to keep up in that field everyday, the last thing I want to do,
is have to spend my weekends studying to talk on a radio.

So don't. Buy a CB, FRS or GMRS radio and talk all you like. Those
are the services created for folks who just want to talk on the radio.

If less stringent requirements were there, I could
easily afford the tools of the trade, and would like to just jump in and start working with a ham setup. I'm
particularly interested in exploring the amateur radio/computer connections.

You won't like that - you'll have to devote a lot of your precious
time to learning things - electronics, both theoretical and practical,
programming, reading a waterfall display, keeping your signal
distortion-free ...

You can't just plug a radio into a computer and start using them.
Digital communications doesn't work if you do it that way.

Can you give me valid reasons as to what useful purpose in today's age they serve?

No, since someone who wants instant gratification can't be bothered to
listen to why that's the wrong way to do something. Your time is
probably much to valuable to spend it learning enough to understand
why you can't learn enough in an instant.

Go memorize some test answers, get a code-free tech, hook your
computer up to your radio and, in 6 months, you'll have your radio up
for sale on eBay, because "it doesn't really work".

Bummer.. well, there's a bunch of ways to test, flashing lights and other
ways. If dyslexia is a problem, just have to get someone to read off the
dit-dah sequences while you memorize them, or use a recorded audio lesson.
There's always a way!
gud luck,
rb

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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:17:34 GMT, "Woody" wrote:

Good on ya then! Do upgrade whenever you can, coz hammin' can be fun if
you
can find a decent bunch to hang with.
Learning 5wpm is pretty easy and gives you a new "toy" or "language" to
play
with if you are so inclined.
easy for some I spent 5 years at it in my teens for a Novice license
and neve got a novice license

instead it was learned I have serious case os dyslexia andfew of its
fellow travlers
The big plus being the new privileges and theory, and all the hi-tech
progression in radio going on in the 21st Century!
There's lots to get into.
Gud luck,
rb



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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:38:54 GMT, "Woody" wrote:

Ah, my bad... sry.
rb

np I expect the FCC to help me correct that soon enough
Radio content:
There used to be a radio swap group here....

indeed and all kinds of radio gruops

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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:36:43 GMT, "Woody" wrote:

Yeah, yoo big chikin. LOL

I dare you to pick up a mic and do a radio test on 3.865
by saying "Beep, beep, beep, beeeeeeeep"!

rb
well as a etech I realy should not try that one

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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:24:51 -0400 (EDT), Anonyma
wrote:

In my case, and I'm sure many others out there in this day in age, my TIME is what is of such short supply. I
have no problem laying out cash for equipment...with most things I do, I generally jump in with both feet,
buy equipment and 'learn as I go'.

A GMRS license costs money. A ham license costs study (time). Your
choice. Either one lets you "talk on the radio".

Good point on the seinfeld thing.. lol..
and yep, those Al Qaeda guys are insane idiots, for sure.
No good can come from anything they have a hand in.
rb

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ups.com...

Woody wrote:

Who's gonna see a single want ad in 300 postings about nothing?

Seinfeld ran for eight years and it was all about nothing. People
cried at the end.

Who wants to pilfer 300 postings about nothing to find a sale ad?
On the Somalia thing,
Do you mean extremists/terrorists that claim to follow Islam, or just
basic
Islamists?

Here's one:

""Somali Islamist gunmen undergo military training
http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx...ticleid=281612

{EXCERPT} Mail & Guardian Online, South Africa Somalia's dominant
Islamic movement on Tuesday launched intensive military training for
hundreds of its gunmen under a plan to create instruments of
statehood......""

It looks like you mean the former.

Please understand that Al Qaeda is a group of terrorists/extremists, it
doesn't matter what religion they
claim to follow.

rb

Here's another:

""SOMALIA, THE BLACK HOLE OF ANARCHY

BY AHMED Q. BURSALIID

In mid July 2005 The U.S. intelligence agents, working with local
warlords, have carried out counter terrorist operations to seize
sus*pects. "Somalia remains the theatre for a shadowy
confrontation involving local Ji*hadis, foreign Al Qaeda operatives
and in*telligence services from a number of re*gional and
Western countries," says a report by the International Crisis Group
in 2005. The report says the "dirty war be*tween terrorists and
counter-terrorist oper*atives in Mogadishu appears to have
en*tered a new and more vicious stage that threatens to push the
country further towards Jihadism and extremist violence un*less its
root causes are properly addressed."

The Somali transitional federal government was formed in neighbouring
Kenya in 2004 and moved into Somalia June 2005. However, the
administration has failed to relocate to Mogadishu, the Somali capital,
because the city was considered unsafe. Due to the insecurity of
Mogadishu, the TFG relocated to Jawhar, which it later decided to move
to Baidoa.

Warlords and leaders of Islamic courts have been fighting in Mogadishu
for about five months. This led to the loss of hundreds of civilians
and
destruction of properties. Somalia, which had been in a state of
anarchy
for more than a decade, has once again gone to war; this war was
somehow
different from previous ones. The nature of this war is seen to have
some religious and political clash while previous ones were much
related
to tribal and feudal conflicts. Each one of the conflicting parties is
claiming that the other group is related to Al-Qaeda when the reality
is
somehow different from that. After months of armed conflicts within the
capital city of Somalia, Union of Islamic Courts took the lead with
enormous points by eliminating the warlords who took hostage the
country
and its people for 16 years.



United States of America, which earlier denied any allegation of
helping
or giving hand to the warlords in the fight to weed out the Islamic
Militia in Somalia shortly after the takeover admitted that it had been
supporting warlords to destabilise the Islamic militia. America has
been
an active player in the politics of Somalia, and until now its policy
towards restoring peace and stability in the war -torn Somalia is
somehow obscure.



Somalis believe that it is the right time to take advantage to restore
the lost hope of good governance in the country as Union of Islamic
Courts led by Sheikh Sharif imposed law and order on Mogadishu, which
was seen neither for 16 years. Hundreds of families from overseas
countries returned back to Mogadishu, the capital city of Somalia since
the takeover took place.



At first Transitional Federal Government welcomed the political change,
which took place in Mogadishu as the Union of Islamic Courts disarmed a
pack of US-backed warlords that took the country and its people hostage
for more than a decade. But soon after the Islamic Militia started to
capture some other cities, the TFG warned the Union of Islamic Courts
of
capturing farther cities. A big gap of political misunderstanding came
in between the Transitional Federal Government and the Union of Islamic
Courts, after the president of fragile Transitional Federal Government
requested peacekeeping forces from the African Union. As the new Somali
constitution inked in Kenya says, "Peacekeeping forces should not
come from the neighbouring countries (Ethiopia, Kenya and
Djibouti)". Likewise, the parliament passed a motion, which it was
requesting peacekeeping troops to Somalia without paying attention to
the classification of peacekeeping forces from AU countries and of
front
line countries. This has created an escalation of political crisis in
Somalia. Ethiopia, which is the common enemy of Somalia has sent its
troops to Somalia in an attempt to protect the Transitional Federal
Government.



This time, Arab League took the political platform of Somalia to
mediate
the two conflicting parties. TFG and UIC were invited to attend a
mediation conference held on June 2006 in Sudan to settle their
differences. After a reconciliation conference, presided over by
Sudanese president Omar Hassan Albashir, the current chairman of Arab
League, the reconciliation process derailed with unknown reasons but it
is believed that Ethiopia was the main figure, which made the
reconciliation process fail as the outcome of the meeting could not
meet
the criteria of Ethiopia's plan to Somalia and then, President
Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, a well-known pro-Ethiopian warlord and his loyal
prime minister Ali Mohamed Gedi, a vet scientist started to advocate
the
legality of Ethiopian Army presence in Somalia.



The Somalis are of the opinion that the involvement of Ethiopian Army
in
the peacekeeping operations in Somalia could cause havoc and
deterioration of the political condition of the country in any case as
Ethiopia is an old aged enemy of Somalia in East Africa. While a vast
majority of the Somali public strongly opposed to deployment of
Ethiopian troop into Somalia under any pretext, president Yusuf's
political stance towards the deployment of Ethiopian troops in Somalia
is clear and also in action by denying the presence of Ethiopian troops
in Somalia just to protect his presidential seat.

Since the reconciliation conference in Sudan derailed a number of
ministers resigned due to the political misunderstanding between TFG
and
UIC. Prime minister declared that he would be nominating successors of
the resigned 24 ministers. In addition to that, the prime minister
himself survived after the Somali parliament passed a motion of no
confidence against him recently.



Moreover, Prime minister of Ethiopia Milez zanawi whose government
earlier denied any presence of Ethiopian troops in Somalia told BBC
that
his government has sent troops to Somalia to protect the Transitional
Federal Government from the Union of Islamic Courts. While on the other
hand, Eritrea is also believed to be an active supporter for the Union
of Islamic Courts. Somalis believe that the support from both Ethiopia
and Eritrea respectively is much related to a proxy war in between
them.
US government warned Ethiopia and Eritrea stop the proxy war they are
playing in the Somali territory.



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