K4YZ wrote:
LenCan'tPassThe wrote:
From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006 2:57 pm

Geee? Robesin is still forging attributes... Some things just never
change.

Don't know if you've heard yet, but the ARRL and robesin announced that
MARS and TSA have an agreement for armageddon communications.

Heh heh, I wouldn't doubt it...

"Armageddon"...?!?!

No one announced "armageddon" in any release that I am aware of.

Why did you?

Yet more evidence of why it's better to have Lennie "Can't Pass An
Exam" Anderson on the outside looking in.

Steve, K4YZ

The ARRL Letter, Vol. 25, No. 33, August 18, 2006

ARRL First Vice President Kay Craigie, N3KN, represented the League at
the
Global Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Conference 2006:

"Craigie stressed that Amateur Radio needs to avoid "being dazzled by
our
own press clippings into thinking that we are the big dog in emergency
telecommunications.""

wrote:
From: an old friend on Mon, Aug 21 2006 3:16 pm
wrote:
From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006 2:57 pm


It's "minority rule" when ARRL lobbies for preservation of
morse code test for any amateur radio license class. The
ARRL membership is slightly less than a quarter of all US
amateur radio licensees.

The ARRL is trying to soften their image - the latest QST shows a
person using a, gulp, microphone on the FRONT cover!

Good grief! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Just inside is yet another article on building a code key - from a door
hinge.

Oh, goody...HIGH TECH construction article.

Would they follow that with another article on the door itself?
Like, I mean, making the door a jar? :-)



Ahem...my reference was the old fairy tale, "The Emperor's New
Clothes." :-)

That's the one where a full-of-himself ruler ordered some new
clothes and the tailor buttered him up (while not sewing any
new clothes) so much that the Emperor bought into this pandering
to his ego and appeared in public with his "new clothes" (he was
naked). Needless to say, the public laughed and laughed at this
ridiculous spectacle. :-)

Robeson has been all full of himself in here about his alleged
"USMC service" yet he has presented zero-point-zero evidence
from anyone else (or any legitimate agency) that he ever
served on active USMC duty for any of his claimed "18 years."

Even though he NOW thinks of himself AS the amateur radio
service personified (anything against him is somehow against
ALL radio amateurs), he is still parodying the "Emperor."

This just in from The ARRL Letter, Vol. 25, No. 33, August 18, 2006

"ARRL First Vice President Kay Craigie, N3KN, represented the League at the
Global Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Conference 2006."

"Craigie stressed that Amateur Radio needs to avoid "being dazzled by our
own press clippings into thinking that we are the big dog in emergency
telecommunications.""

She refers to robesin-like attitudes within the ARS.

Oh. My. God. ! ! !

Tsk, just because NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX, ESPN, and PBS haven't
covered the tremendously fantastic wonderfullest huge contribution
to saving lives and property via ham radio? Gosh, there are all
sorts of clippings from obscure weekly and biweekly newspapers
dutifully cut-and-pasted into messages here from Robesin & Co.

Maybe I'll have to write the Department of Defense and say that
"Major" Robesin said that radio amateurs run MARS! They should
fortwith cease and desist publishing DoD Directives on thinking
that they started it and keep running it!

Maybe I missed the "news" on the Home and Garden Channel...I don't
watch that much...

Right and all the other radio services are switching to morse
code for all emergency communications a la ham radio...the sky
has truly fallen!

didit!

Dahdah comrade. :-)

wrote:
Tsk, just because NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX, ESPN, and PBS haven't
covered the tremendously fantastic wonderfullest huge contribution
to saving lives and property via ham radio?

At http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm is a news story
about two Boy Scouts saving an 18 month old little girl
from drowning. Instead of using verbal communications, how
about a parable about how those Boy Scouts could have
chosen to use Morse Code?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
Tsk, just because NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX, ESPN, and PBS haven't
covered the tremendously fantastic wonderfullest huge contribution
to saving lives and property via ham radio?

At http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm is a news story
about two Boy Scouts saving an 18 month old little girl
from drowning. Instead of using verbal communications, how
about a parable about how those Boy Scouts could have
chosen to use Morse Code?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

People make fun of Scouts. Democrats at the National Convention Boo'd
the Boy Scouts when they posted the flag and said the Pledge of
Allegiance. Some people even make unfounded accusations of pedophilia
when they learn that someone is a Scout leader.

Scouts learn life saving. Some scouts even learn Morse Code. It's all
good.

From: Cecil Moore on Wed, Aug 23 2006 6:38 am

wrote:
Tsk, just because NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX, ESPN, and PBS haven't
covered the tremendously fantastic wonderfullest huge contribution
to saving lives and property via ham radio?

At http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm is a news story
about two Boy Scouts saving an 18 month old little girl
from drowning.

Okay, I suppose that is a nice story. If one accepts the
"Drudge Report" as journalism. It's a BLOG.

Instead of using verbal communications, how
about a parable about how those Boy Scouts could have
chosen to use Morse Code?

Your question is unconnected to your first sentence.

How does one "use morse code" to save a drowning
child? Why would they do that if they were in close
proximity?

Please tell us why it is SO important to be "correct"
on details of the Titanic disaster that happened 94
years ago?

I asked another in here who-what-why-where-when of
amateur radio saving any lives via morse code. That
hasn't been answered yet. Maybe you can supply the
details?

wrote:
From: Cecil Moore on Wed, Aug 23 2006 6:38 am

Instead of using verbal communications, how
about a parable about how those Boy Scouts could have
chosen to use Morse Code?

Your question is unconnected to your first sentence.

How does one "use morse code" to save a drowning
child? Why would they do that if they were in close
proximity?

Darn those Cell Phones! A cell phone was used to call paramedics, not
a code key.

Please tell us why it is SO important to be "correct"
on details of the Titanic disaster that happened 94
years ago?

I asked another in here who-what-why-where-when of
amateur radio saving any lives via morse code. That
hasn't been answered yet.

Nor will it be.

Maybe you can supply the
details?



Cecil can't. Cecil tried to appease the morse jihadists a while back
by joining in their rrap cw net. In the end, they still can't stand
his views on morse testing.

From: on Wed, Aug 23 2006 7:58 pm


wrote:
From: Cecil Moore on Wed, Aug 23 2006 6:38 am

Instead of using verbal communications, how
about a parable about how those Boy Scouts could have
chosen to use Morse Code?

Your question is unconnected to your first sentence.

How does one "use morse code" to save a drowning
child? Why would they do that if they were in close
proximity?

Darn those Cell Phones! A cell phone was used to call paramedics, not
a code key.

Impossible according to the rabid morsemen. "ALL" infrastructure
(including cell phones) "FAIL" in emergencies! :-)


Please tell us why it is SO important to be "correct"
on details of the Titanic disaster that happened 94
years ago?

I asked another in here who-what-why-where-when of
amateur radio saving any lives via morse code. That
hasn't been answered yet.

Nor will it be.

MYTHOLOGY cannot be argued logically. It is part of the lore,
the mystique promulgated by groups who think they are far
more than they really are.

The ARRL resells a few fictional novels by a single author
(a gal) whose subject is mainly "saving the day" with
amateur radio, several of which are supposed to feature
the "life-saving abilities" of morsemanship. I've never
read any, just read the ad copy for them on the ARRL
website. In the writing trade those are known as
"teen-age novels" and are for the under-adult age group.

Some folks think those works of fiction are "real" and like
to cite them to those of us who know better. That and all
the other tales of the Olde Dayes when Kode was King and
all the "best" radio men pounded brass. That was long, long
ago when radio was new, something to communicate with that
did not exist before it came along.


Maybe you can supply the details?

Cecil can't. Cecil tried to appease the morse jihadists a while back
by joining in their rrap cw net. In the end, they still can't stand
his views on morse testing.

The RRAP morse jahidists MUST have THEIR way. They NEED
the elitist identification to prove they are "somebodies"
who are "better" than ordinary mortals through morsemanship.
They get very tiresome rather quickly.

I'm calling them the new "Al-Code-ah" since they might be
organized and beginning to terrorize amateurs with their
demands of code-testing-forever in the USA.

I've nothing against those who LIKE to use morse code and
find pleasure in that mode. I am totally against those who
DEMAND that ALL MUST test for morsemanship (at any speed)
just to get an amateur radio license. They are fixated on
their youth and times past, trying to delude themselves that
time has marched on and all of electronics technology has
changed many times over since They began.

It's quite remarkable viewing some of those olde-tymers
trying to tout their "I am the greatest" bragging, especially
so since I began in radio communications back before some of
them had yet to be born or at least before they became teen-
agers! These olde-tymers blabber on about the efficacy of
morsemanship long, long after ALL the other radio services
stopped using morse. For them time stood still...or they
refused to acknowledge the inexorable passage of time.

The "Al-Code-Ah" continue in their Jihad...

wrote:
From: on Wed, Aug 23 2006 7:58 pm


wrote:
From: Cecil Moore on Wed, Aug 23 2006 6:38 am

Instead of using verbal communications, how
about a parable about how those Boy Scouts could have
chosen to use Morse Code?

Your question is unconnected to your first sentence.

How does one "use morse code" to save a drowning
child? Why would they do that if they were in close
proximity?

Darn those Cell Phones! A cell phone was used to call paramedics, not
a code key.

Impossible according to the rabid morsemen. "ALL" infrastructure
(including cell phones) "FAIL" in emergencies! :-)

Yes, yes. I know. I don't know what to make of it.

Please tell us why it is SO important to be "correct"
on details of the Titanic disaster that happened 94
years ago?

I asked another in here who-what-why-where-when of
amateur radio saving any lives via morse code. That
hasn't been answered yet.

Nor will it be.

MYTHOLOGY cannot be argued logically. It is part of the lore,
the mystique promulgated by groups who think they are far
more than they really are.

The ARRL resells a few fictional novels by a single author
(a gal) whose subject is mainly "saving the day" with
amateur radio, several of which are supposed to feature
the "life-saving abilities" of morsemanship. I've never
read any, just read the ad copy for them on the ARRL
website. In the writing trade those are known as
"teen-age novels" and are for the under-adult age group.

I've read several of them to my son when he was younger. The first
books were written by a guy. He's passed on, and now in the same
style, they are written by a gal.

Some folks think those works of fiction are "real" and like
to cite them to those of us who know better. That and all
the other tales of the Olde Dayes when Kode was King and
all the "best" radio men pounded brass. That was long, long
ago when radio was new, something to communicate with that
did not exist before it came along.

I immensely enjoyed the works of fiction served up by W0EX (SK), and
K3LT, where the story was so contrived that ONLY cw could save the day.

Maybe you can supply the details?

Cecil can't. Cecil tried to appease the morse jihadists a while back
by joining in their rrap cw net. In the end, they still can't stand
his views on morse testing.

The RRAP morse jahidists MUST have THEIR way. They NEED
the elitist identification to prove they are "somebodies"
who are "better" than ordinary mortals through morsemanship.
They get very tiresome rather quickly.

I'm calling them the new "Al-Code-ah" since they might be
organized and beginning to terrorize amateurs with their
demands of code-testing-forever in the USA.

I've nothing against those who LIKE to use morse code and
find pleasure in that mode. I am totally against those who
DEMAND that ALL MUST test for morsemanship (at any speed)
just to get an amateur radio license. They are fixated on
their youth and times past, trying to delude themselves that
time has marched on and all of electronics technology has
changed many times over since They began.

It's quite remarkable viewing some of those olde-tymers
trying to tout their "I am the greatest" bragging, especially
so since I began in radio communications back before some of
them had yet to be born or at least before they became teen-
agers! These olde-tymers blabber on about the efficacy of
morsemanship long, long after ALL the other radio services
stopped using morse. For them time stood still...or they
refused to acknowledge the inexorable passage of time.

The "Al-Code-Ah" continue in their Jihad...



I'm curious what's really holding up the FCC on the issue.

wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Mon, Aug 21 2006 3:16 pm
wrote:
From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006 2:57 pm


It's "minority rule" when ARRL lobbies for preservation of
morse code test for any amateur radio license class. The
ARRL membership is slightly less than a quarter of all US
amateur radio licensees.

The ARRL is trying to soften their image - the latest QST shows a
person using a, gulp, microphone on the FRONT cover!

Good grief! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

It may be for some.

Just inside is yet another article on building a code key - from a door
hinge.

Oh, goody...HIGH TECH construction article.

They didn't mention wether you should use oil or conductive grease on
the hinge.

Would they follow that with another article on the door itself?
Like, I mean, making the door a jar? :-)

Wow! We almost leaped from a door hinge to a jar head.

Ahem...my reference was the old fairy tale, "The Emperor's New
Clothes." :-)

That's the one where a full-of-himself ruler ordered some new
clothes and the tailor buttered him up (while not sewing any
new clothes) so much that the Emperor bought into this pandering
to his ego and appeared in public with his "new clothes" (he was
naked). Needless to say, the public laughed and laughed at this
ridiculous spectacle. :-)

Robeson has been all full of himself in here about his alleged
"USMC service" yet he has presented zero-point-zero evidence
from anyone else (or any legitimate agency) that he ever
served on active USMC duty for any of his claimed "18 years."

Even though he NOW thinks of himself AS the amateur radio
service personified (anything against him is somehow against
ALL radio amateurs), he is still parodying the "Emperor."

This just in from The ARRL Letter, Vol. 25, No. 33, August 18, 2006

"ARRL First Vice President Kay Craigie, N3KN, represented the League at the
Global Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Conference 2006."

"Craigie stressed that Amateur Radio needs to avoid "being dazzled by our
own press clippings into thinking that we are the big dog in emergency
telecommunications.""

She refers to robesin-like attitudes within the ARS.

Oh. My. God. ! ! !

Tsk, just because NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX, ESPN, and PBS haven't
covered the tremendously fantastic wonderfullest huge contribution
to saving lives and property via ham radio? Gosh, there are all
sorts of clippings from obscure weekly and biweekly newspapers
dutifully cut-and-pasted into messages here from Robesin & Co.

And probably at least as credible as the rest of the news they carry.

Maybe I'll have to write the Department of Defense and say that
"Major" Robesin said that radio amateurs run MARS!

He did.

They should
fortwith cease and desist publishing DoD Directives on thinking
that they started it and keep running it!

They live in a fantasy world.

Maybe I missed the "news" on the Home and Garden Channel...I don't
watch that much...

Right and all the other radio services are switching to morse
code for all emergency communications a la ham radio

The American Public would sue them for slow service and wrongful
deaths.

...the sky
has truly fallen!

The other shoe would drop.

didit!

Dahdah comrade. :-)



bb

From: on Wed, Aug 23 2006 8:10 pm


wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Mon, Aug 21 2006 3:16 pm
wrote:
From: on Sun, Aug 20 2006 2:57 pm

It's "minority rule" when ARRL lobbies for preservation of
morse code test for any amateur radio license class. The
ARRL membership is slightly less than a quarter of all US
amateur radio licensees.

The ARRL is trying to soften their image - the latest QST shows a
person using a, gulp, microphone on the FRONT cover!

Good grief! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

It may be for some.

I pity the Al-Code-Ah and their absurd zealousness of the old.


Just inside is yet another article on building a code key - from a door
hinge.

Oh, goody...HIGH TECH construction article.

They didn't mention wether you should use oil or conductive grease on
the hinge.

They should use "RF Grease" - same stuff to lower VSWR on
feedlines...

Would they follow that with another article on the door itself?
Like, I mean, making the door a jar? :-)

Wow! We almost leaped from a door hinge to a jar head.

Oh, my! :-) Now comes the "outrage" from a wanna-be jar head.

I was thinking more of the image of Jar-Jar Binks having come
to earth in Newington and invading the editors offices of QST.

[see the 4th "Star Wars" film to find out who Jar-Jar Binks
is and morsemen should quit viewing "Independence Day" for
the umpteenth time... :-) ]



This just in from The ARRL Letter, Vol. 25, No. 33, August 18, 2006

"ARRL First Vice President Kay Craigie, N3KN, represented the League at the
Global Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Conference 2006."

"Craigie stressed that Amateur Radio needs to avoid "being dazzled by our
own press clippings into thinking that we are the big dog in emergency
telecommunications.""

She refers to robesin-like attitudes within the ARS.

Oh. My. God. ! ! !

Tsk, just because NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, FOX, ESPN, and PBS haven't
covered the tremendously fantastic wonderfullest huge contribution
to saving lives and property via ham radio? Gosh, there are all
sorts of clippings from obscure weekly and biweekly newspapers
dutifully cut-and-pasted into messages here from Robesin & Co.

And probably at least as credible as the rest of the news they carry.

Weeklies and bi-weeklies serve their communities okay. It's
when their reporters get overly ambitious and start copying
copy from other sources when they get into trouble.


Maybe I'll have to write the Department of Defense and say that
"Major" Robesin said that radio amateurs run MARS!

He did.

We KNOW Major Dud said that in here over and over and over and
over and over and over again, but did he really write DoD?

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Right and all the other radio services are switching to morse
code for all emergency communications a la ham radio

The American Public would sue them for slow service and wrongful
deaths.

Well, the reporting of those civil court cases would be
NEW COPY for the papers! Wanna bet that the ARRL would try
to spin that off as "good for the ARS?" :-)


...the sky has truly fallen!

The other shoe would drop.

The end is near...


doo-dah, doo-dah...