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wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len. However, you usually feel insulted whenever someone disagrees with you here. No real problem to me since I know your kind of "my body is too precious to waste serving my country" #######. Who are you quoting, Len? I don't think that way, nor have I ever said or written that quote. shrug Takes all kinds. :-( There are some kinds we could do without.... My point was simply that certain people and industries are paid by the government rather than the free market. The government decides that something needs to be done for the public good, and that user fees can't pay for it, so taxpayer money pays for it. Rationalization and trying to weasel out of what you insultingly wrote. Why do *you* find the term "subsidy" insulting, Len? What is not true in the following: "My point was simply that certain people and industries are paid by the government rather than the free market. The government decides that something needs to be done for the public good, and that user fees can't pay for it, so taxpayer money pays for it." Where is the insult in that? That covers a lot more than members of the Armed Forces - there are firemen, law enforcement officers, public education teachers and administrators, all manner of public works people, etc. There are also many private companies that would not exist, or would be much smaller, if the government did not buy their products and services. More rationalization. How? Is any of that not true? You were not in law enforcement or other public safety service. Are you sure? Besides, it's not about *me*, Len. You DO play the angry Mother Superior in here, though...you must think that counts? Did you go to Catholic school, Len? I think not. Yet you act like you know what it was like. Here's a clue: You don't know what it was like. For example, when Hoover Dam was built in the 1930s, the government used taxpayer money to pay the contractors that built the dam. Private industry could not do the job alone - the cost was too high and the short-term return on investment too low. The USA was not at war with Lake Mead. Dozens of workers died building Hoover Dam. Even more were injured. Death and injury benefits weren't very good. The companies did not even provide hard hats for the workers. Neither were the waters threatening anyone in eastern Pennsylvania. ?? Water was the least of it. Is it "insulting bull****" to say that that part of the country had its development subsidized by the government when Hoover Dam was built? If so, how should it be described? You didn't answer the questions, Len. |
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![]() wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len. I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?" Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take. |
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wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len. I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?" Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to be mistaken about something. Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take. Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did. Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you? Are farm subsidies a form of welfare? How about tax breaks and other incentives given to big corporations? --- Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary defines "subsidy" as: "a grant by a government to a private person or company to assist an enterprise deemed advantageous to the public" No mention of "welfare" in that. |
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![]() wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len. I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?" Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to be mistaken about something. Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take. Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did. Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you? Is military service and non-military service the same thing to you? |
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![]() wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len. I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?" Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to be mistaken about something. Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take. Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did. Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you? Is military service and non-military service the same thing to you? Jimmie was never in the military. He was never a participant. He has never been in government service of any kind. Jimmie has never volunteered to serve his country in anything. Jimmie has never taken that Oath that real veterans took. He is superior. He is an amateur extra morseman. |
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![]() wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len. I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?" Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to be mistaken about something. Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take. Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did. Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you? Is military service and non-military service the same thing to you? Jimmie was never in the military. He was never a participant. He has never been in government service of any kind. Jimmie has never volunteered to serve his country in anything. Jimmie has never taken that Oath that real veterans took. He is superior. He is an amateur extra morseman. Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the US military and military members. And that He thinks his favorite mode should be forced down everyone's throat. |
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![]() wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len. I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?" Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take. I'm not "taking" any of it. Jimmie can go over to his nearest military recruitment station and repeat his "subsidy" crack to any military person in there. After that, the "fourth morseketeer" would be absent from RRAP. |
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![]() wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len. I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?" Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take. I'm not "taking" any of it. Jimmie can go over to his nearest military recruitment station and repeat his "subsidy" crack to any military person in there. After that, the "fourth morseketeer" would be absent from RRAP. I disagree. I think your average service person knows that their is a large segment of US society that looks down on them. But they are intelligent enough to know just how wrong that segment of society is. The servicemen and women stand guard without thought to their popularity. In other words, Jim would be perfectly safe in any recruiter's office, though his visit might be short. Unless he wound up in Robesin's dads recruiter office... |
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wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote: KØHB wrote: wrote: I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent. Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans. I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len. I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?" Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take. I'm not "taking" any of it. Jimmie can go over to his nearest military recruitment station and repeat his "subsidy" crack to any military person in there. After that, the "fourth morseketeer" would be absent from RRAP. I disagree. I think your average service person knows that their is a large segment of US society that looks down on them. But they are intelligent enough to know just how wrong that segment of society is. The servicemen and women stand guard without thought to their popularity. In other words, Jim would be perfectly safe in any recruiter's office, though his visit might be short. Unless he wound up in Robesin's dads recruiter office... I'll concede that you have the more realistic scenario of today's recruiting office. Those military members ARE intelligent and they are motivated. Today's military members aren't the dumb misfits portrayed by "the liberals." However, there's also "conservatives" who think little of the military...except as fine words to spout come election time. There's a parallel in amateur radio recruiting. From the ARRL down, the higher-ups love to look down on aspirants as dummies in radio...as if their lofty elite positions made them "expert." These self-proclaimed gods of radio then wonder why there isn't more participation and - especially - why there's so little love for their self-righteous precious, noble, best-of-all-possible-modes (in their minds), radiotelegraphy. It's still a puzzle why an ex-USN type would be at any Army recruiting office as a civilian...as Robesin once stated. But that can be relegated to just-another-delusional-dream of the Imposter. |
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