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I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.

Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.

I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.

I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.

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I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.

Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.

I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.

I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"

Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to
be mistaken about something.

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.

Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did.

Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you?

Are farm subsidies a form of welfare? How about tax breaks and other
incentives given to big corporations?

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Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary defines "subsidy" as:

"a grant by a government to a private person or company to assist an
enterprise deemed advantageous to the public"

No mention of "welfare" in that.

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I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.

Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.

I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.

I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"

Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to
be mistaken about something.

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.

Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did.

Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you?

Is military service and non-military service the same thing to you?

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I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.

Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.

I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.

I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"

Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to
be mistaken about something.

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.

Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did.

Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you?

Is military service and non-military service the same thing to you?

Jimmie was never in the military. He was never a participant. He
has never been in government service of any kind. Jimmie has
never volunteered to serve his country in anything. Jimmie has
never taken that Oath that real veterans took. He is superior.
He is an amateur extra morseman.

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KØHB wrote:
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I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.

Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.

I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.

I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"

Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to
be mistaken about something.

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.

Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did.

Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you?

Is military service and non-military service the same thing to you?

Jimmie was never in the military. He was never a participant. He
has never been in government service of any kind. Jimmie has
never volunteered to serve his country in anything. Jimmie has
never taken that Oath that real veterans took. He is superior.
He is an amateur extra morseman.



Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the
US military and military members.

And that He thinks his favorite mode should be forced down everyone's
throat.

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KØHB wrote:
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I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.
Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.
I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.
I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"
Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to
be mistaken about something.

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.
Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did.

Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you?
Is military service and non-military service the same thing to you?
Jimmie was never in the military. He was never a participant. He
has never been in government service of any kind. Jimmie has
never volunteered to serve his country in anything. Jimmie has
never taken that Oath that real veterans took. He is superior.
He is an amateur extra morseman.



Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the
US military and military members.

That might be interesting if it were true. You've fabricated though.
I've noted no disdain for either the military, its members or its
veterans, from Jim.

And that He thinks his favorite mode should be forced down everyone's
throat.

That's a fabrication too.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
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I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.
Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.
I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.
I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"
Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to
be mistaken about something.

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.
Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did.

Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you?
Is military service and non-military service the same thing to you?
Jimmie was never in the military. He was never a participant. He
has never been in government service of any kind. Jimmie has
never volunteered to serve his country in anything. Jimmie has
never taken that Oath that real veterans took. He is superior.
He is an amateur extra morseman.



Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the
US military and military members.

That might be interesting if it were true. You've fabricated though.

Hans fabricated. Take it up with him.

I've noted no disdain for either the military, its members or its
veterans, from Jim.

Of course not. You invoke obtuseness at will.

And that He thinks his favorite mode should be forced down everyone's
throat.

That's a fabrication too.

Dave K8MN

Then you won't mind if he tells me that.

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Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the
US military and military members.

"usual liberal disdain"?

Let's see....some well known "liberals"....

There's president Jimmy Carter, who graduated from the US Naval Academy
and served in the Navy on submarines. He also won the Nobel Peace
Prize, for being instrumental in the only long-term peace agreement in
the modern Middle East (the Camp David accords).

Or president John F. Kennedy, who served in the Navy in WW2. He was
awarded the Navy and Marine Corps medal for his leadership on the last
patrol of PT 109.

George McGovern was in the USAAF (15th Air Force) in WW2, flying 35
missions in B-24 bombers over North Africa and Italy. He was awarded
the Distinguished Flying Cross.

Vice president Al Gore enlisted in the Army and served in Vietnam
during that conflict, refusing a place in the Tennessee National Guard.


John Kerry served in the US Navy, volunteering for Vietnam duty. He was
awarded three Purple Heart medals, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star.
After his discharge from the military, he opposed the Vietnam War,
having actually been there.

President Franklin Delano Roosevelt never served in any military,
though he was appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy. He led the USA
out of the Depression and through almost all of WW2. His "New Deal" was
considered rather liberal in its time....

"usual liberal disdain"?

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Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the
US military and military members.

"usual liberal disdain"?

Let's see....some well known "liberals"....

There's president Jimmy Carter, who graduated from the US Naval Academy
and served in the Navy on submarines. He also won the Nobel Peace
Prize, for being instrumental in the only long-term peace agreement in
the modern Middle East (the Camp David accords).

I recall no Middle East Peace in modern times.

Or president John F. Kennedy, who served in the Navy in WW2. He was
awarded the Navy and Marine Corps medal for his leadership on the last
patrol of PT 109.

Indeed he was.

George McGovern was in the USAAF (15th Air Force) in WW2, flying 35
missions in B-24 bombers over North Africa and Italy. He was awarded
the Distinguished Flying Cross.

A little before my time.

Vice president Al Gore enlisted in the Army and served in Vietnam
during that conflict, refusing a place in the Tennessee National Guard.

Odd. Do most people get to "refuse a place" in their state's National
Guard?

I don't recall having that "opportunity." Ditto my brother.

John Kerry served in the US Navy, volunteering for Vietnam duty. He was
awarded three Purple Heart medals, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star.
After his discharge from the military, he opposed the Vietnam War,
having actually been there.

Now there's a perfect example of disdain for his fellow military
members.

President Franklin Delano Roosevelt never served in any military,

Correct. He had polio and was unfit for military service.

though he was appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy.

Our military is civilian led. Sometimes led well, sometimes not.

He led the USA
out of the Depression and through almost all of WW2.

He had a priori knowledge of Pearl Harbor and did nothing. That just
might be considered disdain for the military and military members.

His "New Deal" was
considered rather liberal in its time....

Extremely liberal. It was his handling of the Bonus Marchers, veterans
of WW 1, that needed their promised pensions that might also be
considered disdain for the military and military members.

"usual liberal disdain"?

Yup.

From: on Sat, Sep 23 2006 6:09 pm

Dave Heil wrote:
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I'm sorry if you were insulted, Hans - that was not my intent.

Tsk, you were trying to insult me, not Hans.

I wasn't *trying* to insult anyone, Len.

I wonder what you would have said if you were actually "trying?"

Len feels insulted whenever disagrees with him here, or proves him to
be mistaken about something.

Equating military service with welfare is about all I can take.

Who did that? Not me. I didn't use the word "welfare", Brian. You did.

Are subsidies and welfare the same thing to you?
Is military service and non-military service the same thing to you?

Jimmie was never in the military. He was never a participant. He
has never been in government service of any kind. Jimmie has
never volunteered to serve his country in anything. Jimmie has
never taken that Oath that real veterans took. He is superior.
He is an amateur extra morseman.

Not much is known about Jim, except the usual liberal disdain for the
US military and military members.

Hmmm...always in defense of "Jim" comes "Dave."

It is like they are "joined" somehow.

That might be interesting if it were true. You've fabricated though.

Hans fabricated. Take it up with him.

Heil will not. He seems to think he must defend this "Jim" by
attacking all who THREATEN "Jim." "Threat" being in Heil's
definition...about equivalent to NOT heaping gratuitous
praise on this "Jim."

I've noted no disdain for either the military, its members or its
veterans, from Jim.

Of course not. You invoke obtuseness at will.

Heil is an amateur extra morsemen. They don't "note" anything
but "threats" against their fellow morseketeers. They are the
elite and cannot be told what to do! :-)


And that He thinks his favorite mode should be forced down everyone's
throat.

That's a fabrication too.

Then you won't mind if he tells me that.

Oh, Heil "Minds" all the time. "All for one and all for morse"
is the morseketeers battle cry! :-)

This is too hilarious. :-)