"Dave Moorman" wrote in message
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In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

You'd think someone keen to show off they're tech savvy enough to play
with
yEnc would be tech savvy enough to have progressed on from dial up!

I don't get the whole "tech savvy" thing with yEnc, Ian. There is
plenty of software out there that makes yEnc "invisible". It's not even
a factor in any way. My newsreader displays all images and decodes all
mp3's, etc., yEnc or no yEnc. I know nothing about it and do nothing
for it.

Dave

If there was a simple and "invisible" plug in for Outlook Express I'd
probably install it, but as it stands the majority of people can't be
bothered with it so anyone who posts a picture and asks everyone to help
them are just shooting themselves in the foot.

In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

"Dave Moorman" wrote in message
]...
In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

You'd think someone keen to show off they're tech savvy enough to play
with
yEnc would be tech savvy enough to have progressed on from dial up!

I don't get the whole "tech savvy" thing with yEnc, Ian. There is
plenty of software out there that makes yEnc "invisible". It's not even
a factor in any way. My newsreader displays all images and decodes all
mp3's, etc., yEnc or no yEnc. I know nothing about it and do nothing
for it.

Dave

If there was a simple and "invisible" plug in for Outlook Express I'd
probably install it, but as it stands the majority of people can't be
bothered with it so anyone who posts a picture and asks everyone to help
them are just shooting themselves in the foot.

Well, that puts yEnc at a distinct disadvantage. Have you tried a
newsreader like Forte Agent? If you read newsgroups, using a program
designed for the purpose is like emerging from Plato's cave and seeing
the actual sun - everything is so much easier!

I use a Mac program, MT-Newswatcher, and Forte Agent seems to be similar
and also very competent. I looked into it for a friend and ended up
signing on to the Forte Usenet server - the price is very reasonable and
the service excellent.

Do you do ham radio, Ian?

Dave

"Dave Moorman" wrote in message
]...
In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

"Dave Moorman" wrote in message
]...
In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

You'd think someone keen to show off they're tech savvy enough to play
with
yEnc would be tech savvy enough to have progressed on from dial up!

I don't get the whole "tech savvy" thing with yEnc, Ian. There is
plenty of software out there that makes yEnc "invisible". It's not
even
a factor in any way. My newsreader displays all images and decodes all
mp3's, etc., yEnc or no yEnc. I know nothing about it and do nothing
for it.

Dave

If there was a simple and "invisible" plug in for Outlook Express I'd
probably install it, but as it stands the majority of people can't be
bothered with it so anyone who posts a picture and asks everyone to help
them are just shooting themselves in the foot.

Well, that puts yEnc at a distinct disadvantage. Have you tried a
newsreader like Forte Agent? If you read newsgroups, using a program
designed for the purpose is like emerging from Plato's cave and seeing
the actual sun - everything is so much easier!

I use a Mac program, MT-Newswatcher, and Forte Agent seems to be similar
and also very competent. I looked into it for a friend and ended up
signing on to the Forte Usenet server - the price is very reasonable and
the service excellent.

So its not just the inconvenience of setting up and learning a yEenc
reader - it costs more as well!

Do you do ham radio, Ian?

No - I'm more into industrial type electronics and TVs/monitors although
I've started taking PW since the demise of Television Magazine and
Technology @ Home.

Dave

In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

So its not just the inconvenience of setting up and learning a yEenc
reader - it costs more as well!

If you use a PC! :-)

Dave

In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

No - I'm more into industrial type electronics and TVs/monitors although
I've started taking PW since the demise of Television Magazine and
Technology @ Home.

What's PW?

Dave

"Dave Moorman" wrote in message
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In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

No - I'm more into industrial type electronics and TVs/monitors although
I've started taking PW since the demise of Television Magazine and
Technology @ Home.

What's PW?

Dave

Practical Wireless - it used to have a broader appeal many years ago, but is
now almost entirely ham-radio cantered.

In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

"Dave Moorman" wrote in message
]...
In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

No - I'm more into industrial type electronics and TVs/monitors although
I've started taking PW since the demise of Television Magazine and
Technology @ Home.

What's PW?

Dave

Practical Wireless - it used to have a broader appeal many years ago, but is
now almost entirely ham-radio cantered.


I see! Looks interesting, but at £55.00 per year in the States, I think
I'll pass on a subscription.

Dave

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:54:27 +0000, ian field wrote:

"Dave Moorman" wrote in message
]...
In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

You'd think someone keen to show off they're tech savvy enough to play
with
yEnc would be tech savvy enough to have progressed on from dial up!

I don't get the whole "tech savvy" thing with yEnc, Ian. There is
plenty of software out there that makes yEnc "invisible". It's not even
a factor in any way. My newsreader displays all images and decodes all
mp3's, etc., yEnc or no yEnc. I know nothing about it and do nothing
for it.

Dave

If there was a simple and "invisible" plug in for Outlook Express I'd
probably install it, but as it stands the majority of people can't be
bothered with it so anyone who posts a picture and asks everyone to help
them are just shooting themselves in the foot.

Well, there's your problem Ian. You're still using Micro$oft Outhouse
Express. Free yourself from the tyranny that is MS and liberate your
machine with Open Source Software!

Scott.

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"scott" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:54:27 +0000, ian field wrote:

"Dave Moorman" wrote in message
]...
In article ,
"ian field" wrote:

You'd think someone keen to show off they're tech savvy enough to play
with
yEnc would be tech savvy enough to have progressed on from dial up!

I don't get the whole "tech savvy" thing with yEnc, Ian. There is
plenty of software out there that makes yEnc "invisible". It's not even
a factor in any way. My newsreader displays all images and decodes all
mp3's, etc., yEnc or no yEnc. I know nothing about it and do nothing
for it.

Dave

If there was a simple and "invisible" plug in for Outlook Express I'd
probably install it, but as it stands the majority of people can't be
bothered with it so anyone who posts a picture and asks everyone to help
them are just shooting themselves in the foot.

Well, there's your problem Ian. You're still using Micro$oft Outhouse
Express. Free yourself from the tyranny that is MS and liberate your
machine with Open Source Software!

Scott.

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For want of a "round-tuit" - I've downloaded several distributions of Linux
and set aside as many boxes to try them out on, but at the moment I've got a
bit busy getting to grips with PIC programming.

"scott" :wrote:
Well, there's your problem Ian. You're still using Micro$oft Outhouse
Express. Free yourself from the tyranny that is MS and liberate your
machine with Open Source Software!

Fact: Most casual computer users that do newsgroups use a Microsoft program
like Outlook Express. If you post a picture in yEnc you limit your audience
by adding extra steps (and programs) to decode the post.

As Jimmy Durante said: "Deez are da conditions dat prevail".

yEnc doesn't make the files all that much smaller or easier to decode, it
might be worth it for a busy binary newsgroup with a lot of mulit-part
messages, but even then the space saving is not impressive. Many people
believe that yEnc was developed purely to screw Microsoft. I'm sure
something better will come along any month now, no need to change formats
every time the wind blows.

Ken D.