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9-11 was an 'Inside Job' say 73 top professors...I get it, you'll wait till you hear it from Katie Couric.
In Larry Dighera writes:
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Dynamite bought the twin towers down say 73 top professors...I get it, you'll wait till you hear it from Katie Couric.
Please keep this off the rec.aviation.piloting list. Issues involving
witches, warlocks, little green men, anal probes, and 9/11 conspiracies are not appropriate for this list. -Robert |
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9-11 was an 'Inside Job' say 73 top professors...I get it, you'll wait till you hear it from Katie Couric.
Who said melt? Fire softens steel. It was a damn big
building, the fire wasn't everywhere. wrote in message ups.com... | You've seen the photos of the survivors standing in the impact holes on | the side of the tower begging for help. How could they do that if the | temperatures were hot enough to 'melt steel'? | |
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Dynamite bought the twin towers down say 73 top professors...I get it, you'll wait till you hear it from Katie Couric.
This is what happens to tinfoilers who spew this crap.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=476951 "Physics Professor Steven Jones has made numerous statements about the collapse of the World Trade Center. BYU has repeatedly said that it does not endorse assertions made by individual faculty. "We are, however, concerned about the increasingly speculative and accusatory nature of these statements by Dr. Jones." |
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Dynamite bought the twin towers down say 73 top professors...I get it, you'll wait till you hear it from Katie Couric.
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"MnMikew" wrote: This is what happens to tinfoilers who spew this crap. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=476951 "Physics Professor Steven Jones has made numerous statements about the collapse of the World Trade Center. BYU has repeatedly said that it does not endorse assertions made by individual faculty. "We are, however, concerned about the increasingly speculative and accusatory nature of these statements by Dr. Jones." Steve Jones Is Certifiable Loon, and anyone who knows him will state so, in just those words. He isn't a Structural Enginee., He isn't an Energetic Materials Science Chemist. He has no experience with explosives in any way, shape or form. He is a Physics Professor with dubious Publication History, looking to make a 'Big Splash" in the media. When will these folks just blow away with their own Hot Air...... |
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Dynamite bought the twin towers down say 73 top professors...I get it, you'll wait till you hear it from Katie Couric.
I thought it was strange that this guy was a physics professor. What
would a physics prof know about how the towers fell? That's the realm of engineering. A physics prof would start the problem with "ok, assume a zero gravity, zero atmophere environment..." -Robert, MnMikew wrote: This is what happens to tinfoilers who spew this crap. http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=476951 "Physics Professor Steven Jones has made numerous statements about the collapse of the World Trade Center. BYU has repeatedly said that it does not endorse assertions made by individual faculty. "We are, however, concerned about the increasingly speculative and accusatory nature of these statements by Dr. Jones." |
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9-11 was an 'Inside Job' say 73 top professors...I get it, you'll wait till you hear it from Katie Couric.
"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:fUhMg.20531$SZ3.2811@dukeread04... Who said melt? Fire softens steel. It was a damn big building, the fire wasn't everywhere. wrote in message ups.com... | You've seen the photos of the survivors standing in the impact holes on | the side of the tower begging for help. How could they do that if the | temperatures were hot enough to 'melt steel'? | It appears you only have to cause one floor to drop in that type of building to bring it down. On the History Channel they have a program called Engineering Disasters, and in one of the shows they addressed that very issue. They had actual films of a building that fell during construction in just the way the WTC fell. After much testing they found that rebar had been placed 1/2 inch off from where it was supposed to be in the floor. As the building got taller there was enough weight placed on a lower floor and it failed. The building went straight down, just like the WTC, killing a bunch of workers. All this because of some rebar in the wrong place. -- "Anybody who deliberately propagandizes with lies should be held up to scorn and ridicule" - Al Franken |
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9-11 was an 'Inside Job' say 73 top professors...I get it, you'll wait till you hear it from Katie Couric.
In "John Smith" writes:
It appears you only have to cause one floor to drop in that type of building to bring it down. On the History Channel they have a program called Engineering Disasters, and in one of the shows they addressed that very issue. They had actual films of a building that fell during construction in just the way the WTC fell. After much testing they found that rebar had been placed 1/2 inch off from where it was supposed to be in the floor. As the building got taller there was enough weight placed on a lower floor and it failed. The building went straight down, just like the WTC, killing a bunch of workers. All this because of some rebar in the wrong place. Sounds like (more or less) they're describing the pancaking of L'Ambiance Plaza in Bridgeport, Ct., back in (clickety click) 1987 ( and even if they're not, it's a good read...) short version: the building was a "lift slab" structure, where the floors were built up at ground level, then lifted by crane to their destination height, and attached to the columns. First would be the top floor, then ( top -1 ), ( top -2 ), rinse, lather, repeat. One of the upper floors came loose, fell down, and the rest joined up. A couple of cites: http://www.pubs.asce.org/WWWdisplay.cgi?9204513 http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/bu...PDF/b94023.pdf (pdf) and, for good measu http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/anal...lambiance.html ( note that the last includes some commentary which is full of [expletive deleted], such as the claim that "The rubble of the L'Ambiance Plaza building contained clearly recognizable stacks of floor slabs, contrasting with the striking absence of a single photograph showing a piece of floor slab or even steel truss at Ground Zero...) -- __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] |
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9-11 was an 'Inside Job' say 73 top professors...I get it, you'll wait till you hear it from Katie Couric.
"danny burstein" wrote in message ... In "John Smith" writes: It appears you only have to cause one floor to drop in that type of building to bring it down. On the History Channel they have a program called Engineering Disasters, and in one of the shows they addressed that very issue. They had actual films of a building that fell during construction in just the way the WTC fell. After much testing they found that rebar had been placed 1/2 inch off from where it was supposed to be in the floor. As the building got taller there was enough weight placed on a lower floor and it failed. The building went straight down, just like the WTC, killing a bunch of workers. All this because of some rebar in the wrong place. Sounds like (more or less) they're describing the pancaking of L'Ambiance Plaza in Bridgeport, Ct., back in (clickety click) 1987 ( and even if they're not, it's a good read...) short version: the building was a "lift slab" structure, where the floors were built up at ground level, then lifted by crane to their destination height, and attached to the columns. First would be the top floor, then ( top -1 ), ( top -2 ), rinse, lather, repeat. One of the upper floors came loose, fell down, and the rest joined up. A couple of cites: http://www.pubs.asce.org/WWWdisplay.cgi?9204513 http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/bu...PDF/b94023.pdf (pdf) and, for good measu http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/anal...lambiance.html ( note that the last includes some commentary which is full of [expletive deleted], such as the claim that "The rubble of the L'Ambiance Plaza building contained clearly recognizable stacks of floor slabs, contrasting with the striking absence of a single photograph showing a piece of floor slab or even steel truss at Ground Zero...) Interesting links here... http://www.ire.org/inthenews_archive/collapse.html |
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9-11 was an 'Inside Job' say 73 top professors...I get it, you'll wait till you hear it from Katie Couric.
"danny burstein" wrote in message ... In "John Smith" writes: It appears you only have to cause one floor to drop in that type of building to bring it down. On the History Channel they have a program called Engineering Disasters, and in one of the shows they addressed that very issue. They had actual films of a building that fell during construction in just the way the WTC fell. After much testing they found that rebar had been placed 1/2 inch off from where it was supposed to be in the floor. As the building got taller there was enough weight placed on a lower floor and it failed. The building went straight down, just like the WTC, killing a bunch of workers. All this because of some rebar in the wrong place. Sounds like (more or less) they're describing the pancaking of L'Ambiance Plaza in Bridgeport, Ct., back in (clickety click) 1987 ( and even if they're not, it's a good read...) short version: the building was a "lift slab" structure, where the floors were built up at ground level, then lifted by crane to their destination height, and attached to the columns. First would be the top floor, then ( top -1 ), ( top -2 ), rinse, lather, repeat. One of the upper floors came loose, fell down, and the rest joined up. A couple of cites: http://www.pubs.asce.org/WWWdisplay.cgi?9204513 http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/bu...PDF/b94023.pdf (pdf) and, for good measu http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/anal...lambiance.html ( note that the last includes some commentary which is full of [expletive deleted], such as the claim that "The rubble of the L'Ambiance Plaza building contained clearly recognizable stacks of floor slabs, contrasting with the striking absence of a single photograph showing a piece of floor slab or even steel truss at Ground Zero...) Great links, thanks. I do think the building they had on the film was in Florida, but I seem to remember them saying the name L'Ambiance Plaza when talking about other building that had fallen. There was a guy doing a video tape during the construction so you got to see it come down. Although it is hard to tell from the photos shown, it sure looks like there were pieces of floor slab in some of them. |
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