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K4YZ wrote:
X-rated Vermonter wrote:

It just so happens that I passed a 20 wpm code test and I think you
are a bozo.


Where's the evidence?

Steve, K4YZ


Silly Bozo Wabbit, opinions need no evidence.

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wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
X-rated Vermonter wrote:

It just so happens that I passed a 20 wpm code test and I think you
are a bozo.


Where's the evidence?

Steve, K4YZ


Silly Bozo Wabbit, opinions need no evidence.


not when they oppose the Might Steve then they must be proven true or
he will meat justice or some such crap

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Steve, K4YZ


Silly Bozo Wabbit, opinions need no evidence.


not when they oppose the Might Steve then they must be proven true or
he will meat justice or some such crap
....
Mork punces again....

he will meat justice
he will meat justice
he will meat justice

You are your own worst enemy, Mork.


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Colonel Mark wrote:
more fraud

Steve, K4YZ


Silly Bozo Wabbit, opinions need no evidence.


not when they oppose the Might Steve then they must be proven true or
he will meat justice or some such crap
...
Mork punces again....

he will meat justice
he will meat justice
he will meat justice

You are your own worst enemy, Mork.


hardly steve

most people are not so teribly concerned with spelling

indeed most people reconize that when all you have to offer is speling
mistakes you have NO real armguement to make

you are your own worst enemy. i could not make such a fool of you
without YOUR help and consent

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X-rated Vermonter wrote in
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:58:31 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

X-rated Vermonter wrote in
m:

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 01:16:08 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

X-rated Vermonter wrote in
m:

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 23:58:09 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

If all the seats are taken at a club meeting and a 20wpm code tested
Extra is standing, a no-code ham should give their seat to the Extra
and sit on the floor. After saluting of course.

SC
++++++++
You have been drinking too much sloe gin.



Please wipe the seat after you get off to sit on the floor.

Thanks.

SC
+++++++++
It just so happens that I passed a 20 wpm code test and I think you
are a bozo.



If you're really a code tested Extra, why do you want to dumb down ham
radio? You should help me push for better radio exams by supporting an
increase in speed of the code requirement. If we can get rid of the
no-codes and nickle hams, test everyone up to 13 and 20wpm, no one will
have to sit on the floor at club meetings anymore.

SC


++++++++++++
I don't want to dumb down amateur radio, but you very much want to.
You see, amateur radio is supposed to be about advancement of the art,
and preparing and maintaining a civilian population with contemporary
communications skills Mandating a mode that has fallen completely out
of military and commercial use as obsolete is contrary to the concept
of advancement of the art. It is as if blood letting was a required
course for a medical degree.

Code is fine for those who like that mode. I use it at least once a
month. However, it is no longer the mode that is best in weak signal
conditions, or that uses the narrowest band width for effective
communication. PSK31 runs circles around code. And guess
what....many of the most fervent code guys I know cheat and use
computers to print the received code on a screen, and a keyboard to
allow the computer to generate their sending.

An amateur extra exam these days covers information a lot more current
than that on the exam just a few decades ago. Perhaps instead of
harping on code as some indicator of intelligence, you should direct
your efforts to having all hams retested on license renewal, to make
sure they continue to be current with the state of the art in amateur
radio. Or do you believe that de Forest era vacuum tubes are more
relevant to amateur radio in the 21st century than integrated
circuits?



Code is just one part of it. Here's my four step plan that will keep
ham radio from becoming like CB:


Step 1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.

Step 2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.

Step 3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.

Step 4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.





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John Smith wrote in
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Tell us man, we are here to help you! Don't be afraid to admit it and
come clean. You already have our pity, although you found the end to
our patience a while back.

JS



John,

If it's not too difficult for your tiny CW hating brain to handle, try to
figured out how to use your killfile. Everyone is tired of seeing your
retard follow-ups to my protect ham radio posts. Tnx.

Try not to get your pants dirty when you sit on the floor at the next
club meeting.

SC
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:34:05 GMT, Slow Code wrote:



Code is just one part of it. Here's my four step plan that will keep
ham radio from becoming like CB:


Step 1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.

Step 2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.

Step 3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.

Step 4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.

+++++++++
Your plan will eliminate QRM. There will be nobody left with a
license.

Are you an undercover agent for some commercial group that is looking
to take over ham band spectrum for commercial uses?

You are a caricature of a crusty old fool.
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X-rated Vermonter wrote in
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:34:05 GMT, Slow Code wrote:



Code is just one part of it. Here's my four step plan that will keep
ham radio from becoming like CB:


Step 1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.

Step 2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.

Step 3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for
Extra.

Step 4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.

+++++++++
Your plan will eliminate QRM. There will be nobody left with a
license.





I know you're right. Requiring good operators will kill the service.

Hams just want to be appliance operators these days and they don't want
license exams that will interfere with them getting to those appliances
even though it means being less skilled. I don't see anyone modernizing
like everyone says is happening. They just get their licenses and grab a
microphone. What percentage of hams have a computer connected to a
radio? Probably less than 30%. Hams don't want to modernize. Guess we
just have live with inferior operators on the bands from here on out.
Then again, maybe hams shouldn't be required to be knowledgable or have
skills. Requiring skills and knowledge is too old skool. Everything must
be outcome based these days, even licensing. It ain't like we have to
help out in emergencies or anything. It's Quantity, not quality. We need
more hams even if they aren't skilled.

SC
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