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Bill Crocker wrote:
So you're saying if you advise him how to accomplish his goal, and he gets
busted by the Feds, you could not be charged as an accomplist?

Bill Crocker


I was asking for knowledge first of all because I've never heard of that
encryption before. I don't need to listen to it, I was trying to get
info on it never heard of that encryption before. Where I used to live
didn't Excrypt their traffic at all. Bill seriously take a breather.
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I'm not upset, or mad, I'm just trying to keep you out of trouble. As you
said, you didn't know. Besides my comment was to labtech1.

Bill Crocker



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Bill Crocker wrote:
So you're saying if you advise him how to accomplish his goal, and he
gets busted by the Feds, you could not be charged as an accomplist?

Bill Crocker


I was asking for knowledge first of all because I've never heard of that
encryption before. I don't need to listen to it, I was trying to get info
on it never heard of that encryption before. Where I used to live didn't
Excrypt their traffic at all. Bill seriously take a breather.



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"Bill Crocker" wrote in message
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I'm not upset, or mad, I'm just trying to keep you out of trouble. As you
said, you didn't know. Besides my comment was to labtech1.

Bill Crocker



"Karnaj" wrote in message
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Bill Crocker wrote:
So you're saying if you advise him how to accomplish his goal, and he
gets busted by the Feds, you could not be charged as an accomplist?

Bill Crocker


I was asking for knowledge first of all because I've never heard of that
encryption before. I don't need to listen to it, I was trying to get

info
on it never heard of that encryption before. Where I used to live

didn't
Excrypt their traffic at all. Bill seriously take a breather.


I thought that the legality of owning unscramblers was made on a
state-by-state basis, there do you get this "Fed" crap?

HJ


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It is a FEDERAL crime to 'use' a descrambler to intercept transmissions that
are NOT your own. Hence.... if you owned a taxi cab company and wanted to
scramble your transmissions to the cars.... you can legally do it. However
if you 'used' that descrambler/ scrambler system to intercept police or
another business transmissions you are in violation
of the law.


"honestjohn" wrote in message
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"Bill Crocker" wrote in message
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I'm not upset, or mad, I'm just trying to keep you out of trouble. As

you
said, you didn't know. Besides my comment was to labtech1.

Bill Crocker



"Karnaj" wrote in message
news:MLI5h.142869$aJ.35784@attbi_s21...
Bill Crocker wrote:
So you're saying if you advise him how to accomplish his goal, and he
gets busted by the Feds, you could not be charged as an accomplist?

Bill Crocker

I was asking for knowledge first of all because I've never heard of

that
encryption before. I don't need to listen to it, I was trying to get

info
on it never heard of that encryption before. Where I used to live

didn't
Excrypt their traffic at all. Bill seriously take a breather.


I thought that the legality of owning unscramblers was made on a
state-by-state basis, there do you get this "Fed" crap?

HJ




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"labtech1" wrote in message
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It is a FEDERAL crime to 'use' a descrambler to intercept transmissions

that
are NOT your own. Hence.... if you owned a taxi cab company and wanted to
scramble your transmissions to the cars.... you can legally do it.

However
if you 'used' that descrambler/ scrambler system to intercept police or
another business transmissions you are in violation
of the law.

When did the gov't. pass this law and who enforces it?

Don't say the FCC because they only regulate transmitters, not receivers.

HJ




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FBI investigates illegal reception of radio transmissions, this includes
cell phones etc

However the FCC DOES 'regulate' receivers...... look on ANY radio and see
the
"FCC type approved' sticker on it. ANY radio must be 'approved' by the FCC
before it can be sold in the USA


"honestjohn" wrote in message
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"labtech1" wrote in message
...
It is a FEDERAL crime to 'use' a descrambler to intercept transmissions

that
are NOT your own. Hence.... if you owned a taxi cab company and wanted

to
scramble your transmissions to the cars.... you can legally do it.

However
if you 'used' that descrambler/ scrambler system to intercept police or
another business transmissions you are in violation
of the law.

When did the gov't. pass this law and who enforces it?

Don't say the FCC because they only regulate transmitters, not receivers.

HJ




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"labtech1" wrote in message
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FBI investigates illegal reception of radio transmissions, this includes
cell phones etc

However the FCC DOES 'regulate' receivers...... look on ANY radio and

see
the
"FCC type approved' sticker on it. ANY radio must be 'approved' by the

FCC
before it can be sold in the USA

To insure that the oscillator in the radio doesn't transmit those
oscillations beyond a certain distance from the receiver. The FCC will
never tell anyone what they can or can't listen to. The airwaves are "FREE"
and anyone can listen to anything that they want. The problem only comes
when you repeat what you hear on police frequencies. Plus unscramblers are
not receivers, only an audio accessory to a receiver. The Feds only
investigate people SELLING modified receivers for cell phones, not the
buyers.

H.J.


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