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Is it legal to drive through Burger King drive-thru with safetylights installed in/on your car???
This might sound like a joke, but it isn't.
You know those back up safety lights they sell to install in and on your car that uses the frequencies in the ham bands? However, Burger King has signs up saying "no videorecording or photography allowed" and that "violators will be prosecuted". So with that sign, Burger King is telling all of us that it is against the law to have safety lights on your car because it violates Buger King's rules. They seem as bad or maybe even worse than Palmdale, California. But you all just KNOW that sometime somewhere some city will pass a law requiring you to have those safety backup lights on your car. Whch also poses a problem in federal areas where they say "no cameras allowed" and no photography" allowed since it's NOT easy and is actually a pain to keep uninstalling them and reinstalling them. Such as if your city passes a law requiring them and you have to drive to your local social security office for some reaon, where they're prohibited by law. Maybeit's an old retired ham or old retired cber. To follow th law you must break the law. That is To follow the law of no cameras permitted anywhere on social security/ federal property, you must remove them BEFORE you get your car on that property, but by doing so, you are breaking your city's law by not having them on your car while on city property off of federal property. But following the law to have them on your car on city property means you must have them on your car until your car is completely off of city property which means until AFTER par of your car is on federal property and you're now in violation of federal law prohibiting cameras on federal property. Of more concer is where radio transmissions are prohibited because of explosives. But you CAN't just uninstall them willy-nilly. Its too hard of a job to do that. And who is Burger King to tell me that I'm not allowed to have safety lights on my car??????? yeah, some smart aleck is probably wanting to answer, "Well, he is the king." Not in the U.S., he isn't. Seriously, in my opinion, the Burger King company,corporation, whatever they are, has NO business telling me that I MUST drive more dangerously. And that I MUST risk running over kids that are too small to see behind my car with the mirrors while backing up. Or their pets. Who is Burger /king to tell me that I HAVE to run over innocent little kids because having transmitting safety backup lights on my car violates Burger King's rules against "no cameras, no photograhy, and no videorecording????? Guess what? With those safety backup lights transmitting on the ham bands, even if I don't do any videorecording, you just KNOW that there's probably going to be some ham somewhere in his own house watching it and videorecording it from his own house. Maybe even several hams at their own homes videorecording the transmissions from the safety backup lights. So take that, Burger King. Of course, with their sign, they have already threatened to call the police and prosecute anyone they catch with any kind of camera on their property. Once, even while inside Burger King, the manager came up to me and told me to get rid of my "camera" that I had because it's against the law and not allowed inside there. Until I then showed him that my so-called "camera" was NOT a "camera" at all, but an Icom IC-R3 tv set. Yes, the idiot BK manager thought my Icom IC-R3 radio/tv reciever was a "camera". |
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Is it legal to drive through Burger King drive-thru with safety lights installed in/on your car???
You are the joke "radioguy" .
The Burger King sign says "no videorecording or photography allowed". It doesn't say yo cn't have a camera or camcorder. It says you cannot take photographs or video recording. What's your problem? Either don't go to Burger King r if you go follow their rules. "radioguy" wrote in message ... This might sound like a joke, but it isn't. You know those back up safety lights they sell to install in and on your car that uses the frequencies in the ham bands? However, Burger King has signs up saying "no videorecording or photography allowed" and that "violators will be prosecuted". So with that sign, Burger King is telling all of us that it is against the law to have safety lights on your car because it violates Buger King's rules. They seem as bad or maybe even worse than Palmdale, California. But you all just KNOW that sometime somewhere some city will pass a law requiring you to have those safety backup lights on your car. Whch also poses a problem in federal areas where they say "no cameras allowed" and no photography" allowed since it's NOT easy and is actually a pain to keep uninstalling them and reinstalling them. Such as if your city passes a law requiring them and you have to drive to your local social security office for some reaon, where they're prohibited by law. Maybeit's an old retired ham or old retired cber. To follow th law you must break the law. That is To follow the law of no cameras permitted anywhere on social security/ federal property, you must remove them BEFORE you get your car on that property, but by doing so, you are breaking your city's law by not having them on your car while on city property off of federal property. But following the law to have them on your car on city property means you must have them on your car until your car is completely off of city property which means until AFTER par of your car is on federal property and you're now in violation of federal law prohibiting cameras on federal property. Of more concer is where radio transmissions are prohibited because of explosives. But you CAN't just uninstall them willy-nilly. Its too hard of a job to do that. And who is Burger King to tell me that I'm not allowed to have safety lights on my car??????? yeah, some smart aleck is probably wanting to answer, "Well, he is the king." Not in the U.S., he isn't. Seriously, in my opinion, the Burger King company,corporation, whatever they are, has NO business telling me that I MUST drive more dangerously. And that I MUST risk running over kids that are too small to see behind my car with the mirrors while backing up. Or their pets. Who is Burger /king to tell me that I HAVE to run over innocent little kids because having transmitting safety backup lights on my car violates Burger King's rules against "no cameras, no photograhy, and no videorecording????? Guess what? With those safety backup lights transmitting on the ham bands, even if I don't do any videorecording, you just KNOW that there's probably going to be some ham somewhere in his own house watching it and videorecording it from his own house. Maybe even several hams at their own homes videorecording the transmissions from the safety backup lights. So take that, Burger King. Of course, with their sign, they have already threatened to call the police and prosecute anyone they catch with any kind of camera on their property. Once, even while inside Burger King, the manager came up to me and told me to get rid of my "camera" that I had because it's against the law and not allowed inside there. Until I then showed him that my so-called "camera" was NOT a "camera" at all, but an Icom IC-R3 tv set. Yes, the idiot BK manager thought my Icom IC-R3 radio/tv reciever was a "camera". |
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Is it legal to drive through Burger King drive-thru with safetylights installed in/on your car???
On Dec 16, 9:51*am, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
You are the joke "radioguy" . The Burger King sign says "no videorecording or *photography allowed". It doesn't say yo cn't have a camera or camcorder. It says you cannot take photographs or video recording. What's your problem? Either don't go to Burger King r if you go follow their rules. Having safety lights that transmit pictures is photography, as far as Burger King is concerned. I already had a BK manager tell me to get rid of my "camera" that I was NOT taking any pictures with inside since "cameras aren't allowed and are illegal inside here". The reason I didn't take any pictures wth that "camera" was because it was NOT a "camera", but WAS a radio and tv set. Lots of people take their radios into Burger King and listen to them with headphones out. The idiot manager thought that my radio was a camera. And he wasn't a young kid either. he was a middle aged man. I don't go there much anymore anyways, but it does have serious legal implications. Suppose I'm on the public street and happen to get in a car accident that's not my fault, but is completely the othe guy's fault and his car makes mine end up in Burger King's parking lot. I can now be charged with illegallyy violating Burger Kings rules "no photograpgy allowed". Even though I never intended to be at Burger King. Since "evidence obtained illegally" is not permitted to be used as evidence in court, I would then now be unable to use the pictures from the safety lights that would prove the accident was not my fault while I'm n court. While I would be able to legally use thiose same safety light pictures as evidence in court as long as my car happened to spin and land somewhere off of Burger King property. But if my car spins and happens to land on Burger King property, that same legal evidence is now illegal evidence. Also, some Burger Kings also have the "no videorecording or photography allowed" signs posted on their drive through windows where you pick up your food. If that rule was just meant for the inside of the building, why is it posted where the drive through customers see it? And if it's meant to address just the employees, why is it positioned so that the drive throughcustomers see it? It seems the only reason to have it there is if the rule was meant for the whole premises, both inside and outside the building. Also futher legal implications: I don't know why BK has that rule, but if it's because you don't want your employees photographed, get this: A car with safety lights installed does NOT even have to be on BK at all to photograph your employees. A car with safety lights installed can be completely on the city-owned public streets and as long as your employees are in sight of whatever the safety lights see, the safety lights WILL transmit live motion pictures of your employees. And other people can then videorecord your employess from their own home by recording those safety ligt transmissions. Once a viideorecording is made, it's a simple matter to make stills from that video or even simpler, instead of bothering to make stills, just put up the video as you recorded in, in full glorious full motion video. Since no one wa on BK property, and the videos of BK employees was not inteninall made by the person with the safety lights, and thepeople at home recording were just recording tv signl they just happen to recieve, and they were not recording any transmissions from BK cameras but were recording transmissions from the safety light cameras, and BK has no authority over the person with the safety light cameras since they were never on BK property. What can and can't be installe on cars is the business of whoever in the state controls vehicle laws, NOT the business of Burger King. And I very much doubt that any city,county, or state would even consider, let alone passing a law that makes it against the law to have SAFETY LIGHTS that protects kids more installe on your vehicle. And if some city, county, or state government was stupid enough to actually pass a law making it against the law to have SAFETY LIGHTS that protect kids moe installed on your vehicle, I think that city, county, or state would find theirselves in a unch of political hot water, a bunch of legal hot water, and involved in a bunch of court cases. As far as I can see, I have not found aanything in my local city, county, or state laws yet that state having SAFETY LIGHTS installed on your car is against the law. If they were, then why are the legal national chain stores allowed to kegally sell them? Along with other stores that are not national chain stores. I'm not sure if the safety lights also transmit sound besides just pictures or not, so maybe people watching the safety light transmissions at home might even be able to hear what your employees are saying in addition to seeing them, while scanner listerners would be able to hear them in such a case. And all the while with both the car and safety lights never ever ever bein on Burger King property at all. So take that, Burger King. hahahahahahahahahaha. |
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Is it legal to drive through Burger King drive-thru with safetylights installed in/on your car???
On Dec 16, 4:46*pm, radioguy wrote:
On Dec 16, 9:51*am, "Frank Arthur" wrote: You are the joke "radioguy" . The Burger King sign says "no videorecording or *photography allowed".. It doesn't say yo cn't have a camera or camcorder. It says you cannot take photographs or video recording. What's your problem? Either don't go to Burger King r if you go follow their rules. Having safety lights that transmit pictures is photography, as far as Burger King is concerned. I already had a BK manager tell me to get rid of my "camera" that I was NOT taking any pictures with inside since "cameras aren't allowed and are illegal inside here". The reason I didn't take any pictures wth that "camera" was because it was NOT a "camera", but WAS a radio and tv set. Lots of people take their radios into Burger King and listen to them with headphones out. The idiot manager thought that my radio was a camera. And he wasn't a young kid either. he was a middle aged man. I don't go there much anymore anyways, but it does have serious legal implications. Suppose I'm on the public street and happen to get in a car accident that's not my fault, but is completely the othe guy's fault and his car makes mine end up in Burger King's parking lot. I can now be charged with illegallyy violating Burger Kings rules "no photograpgy allowed". Even though I never intended to be at Burger King. Since "evidence obtained illegally" is not permitted to be used as evidence in court, I would then now be unable to use the pictures from the safety lights *that would prove the accident was not my fault while I'm n court. While I would be able to legally use thiose same safety light pictures as evidence in court as long as my car happened to spin and land somewhere off of Burger King property. But if my car spins and happens to land on Burger King property, that same legal evidence is now illegal evidence. Also, some Burger Kings also have the "no videorecording or photography allowed" signs posted on their drive through windows where you pick up your food. If that rule was just meant for the inside of the building, why is it posted where the drive through customers see it? And if it's meant to address just the employees, why is it positioned so that the drive throughcustomers see it? It seems the only reason to have it there is if the rule was meant for the whole premises, both inside and outside the building. Also futher legal implications: I don't know why BK has that rule, but if it's because you don't want your employees photographed, get this: A car with safety lights installed does NOT even have to be on BK at all to photograph your employees. A car with safety lights installed can be completely on the city-owned public streets and as long as your employees are in sight of whatever the safety lights see, the safety lights WILL transmit live motion pictures of your employees. And other people can then videorecord your employess from their own home by recording those safety ligt transmissions. Once a viideorecording is made, it's a simple matter to make stills from that video or even simpler, instead of bothering to make stills, just put up *the video as you recorded in, in full glorious full motion video. Since no one wa on BK property, and the videos of BK employees was not inteninall made by the person with the safety lights, and thepeople at home recording were just recording tv signl they just happen to recieve, and they were not recording any transmissions from BK cameras but were recording transmissions from the safety light cameras, *and BK has no authority over the person with the safety light cameras since they were never on BK property. What can and can't be installe on cars is the business of whoever in the state controls vehicle laws, NOT the business of Burger King. And I very much doubt that any city,county, or state would even consider, let alone passing a law that makes it against the law to have SAFETY LIGHTS that protects kids more installe on your vehicle. And if some city, county, or state government was stupid enough to actually pass a law making it against the law to have SAFETY LIGHTS that protect kids moe installed on your vehicle, I think that city, county, or state would find theirselves in a unch of political hot water, a bunch of legal hot water, and involved in a bunch of court cases. As far as I can see, I have not found aanything in my local city, county, or state laws yet that state having SAFETY LIGHTS installed on your car is against the law. If they were, then why are the legal *national chain stores *allowed to kegally sell them? Along with other stores that are not national chain stores. I'm not sure if the safety lights also transmit sound besides just pictures or not, so maybe people watching the safety light transmissions at home might even be able to hear what your employees are saying in addition to seeing them, while scanner listerners would be able to hear them in such a case. And all the while with both the car and safety lights never ever ever bein on Burger King property at all. So take that, Burger King. hahahahahahahahahaha. Did they not give you a raise? Awful lot of typing for something that isn't a big deal IMO. |
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Is it legal to drive through Burger King drive-thru with safetylights installed in/on your car???
On Dec 16, 9:51*am, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
You are the joke "radioguy" . The Burger King sign says "no videorecording or *photography allowed". It doesn't say yo cn't have a camera or camcorder. It says you cannot take photographs or video recording. What's your problem? Either don't go to Burger King r if you go follow their rules. IThat is not as easy as you make it sound. I would like to see you keep on uninstalling and reinstalling safety lights on your car everytime you enter and leave Burger King property. It's at least a two hour job one way. Who in their right mind is going to spend two or mor hours uninstalling safety lights right before entering BK property and then another two hours or more reinstalling them after leaving BK property just to have lunch there for half an hour or less??? Not only that, but you will most likely get arrested if you do so, since you will be blocking traffic on the public streets for hours at a time while uninstalling them right outside of Burger King prroperty. And of you reinstall them while on BK property before leaving so you won't block traffic, the BK managers and employees will woner what you're doing there fo so long and will say something to you anout it. So again, what right does Burger Kimg have to say SAFETY LIGHTS intalled on your car are illegal since it violates Burger King's own rules about "no photography". When there's nothing in actual local city, county or state laws saying that SAFETY LIGHTS made specifically to be installed on a car are against the law to intall in you car??? They're sold specifically to be installed on your car in order to protect kids more and pets and other peoples' property. |
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Is it legal to drive through Burger King drive-thru with safety lights installed in/on your car???
"radioguy" wrote in message ... On Dec 16, 9:51 am, "Frank Arthur" wrote: You are the joke "radioguy" . The Burger King sign says "no videorecording or photography allowed". It doesn't say yo cn't have a camera or camcorder. It says you cannot take photographs or video recording. What's your problem? Either don't go to Burger King r if you go follow their rules. IThat is not as easy as you make it sound. I would like to see you keep on uninstalling and reinstalling safety lights on your car everytime you enter and leave Burger King property. It's at least a two hour job one way. Who in their right mind is going to spend two or mor hours uninstalling safety lights right before entering BK property and then another two hours or more reinstalling them after leaving BK property just to have lunch there for half an hour or less??? Not only that, but you will most likely get arrested if you do so, since you will be blocking traffic on the public streets for hours at a time while uninstalling them right outside of Burger King prroperty. And of you reinstall them while on BK property before leaving so you won't block traffic, the BK managers and employees will woner what you're doing there fo so long and will say something to you anout it. So again, what right does Burger Kimg have to say SAFETY LIGHTS intalled on your car are illegal since it violates Burger King's own rules about "no photography". When there's nothing in actual local city, county or state laws saying that SAFETY LIGHTS made specifically to be installed on a car are against the law to intall in you car??? They're sold specifically to be installed on your car in order to protect kids more and pets and other peoples' property. You and Jerry should hook up. you would make a great wingman. Imagine riding shotgun in the Sauk mobile. As Jerry would say " you ****in assholes, stop with the cross posting" |
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Is it legal to drive through Burger King drive-thru with safetylights installed in/on your car???
On Dec 16, 9:51*am, "Frank Arthur" wrote:
You are the joke "radioguy" . The Burger King sign says "no videorecording or *photography allowed". It doesn't say yo cn't have a camera or camcorder. It says you cannot take photographs or video recording. What's your problem? Either don't go to Burger King r if you go follow their rules. You may be right. That might be a loophole. It's obvious that Burger King's intentions, for whatever reason, is so that there won't be any photographs or videorecordings of their employees. The SAFETY LIGHTS don't actually take "photographs" and don't do any "videorecoring" but they DO transmit live motion pictures in realtime which CAN be videorecorded by other people in their own homes. Which either photographic stills can be made from or can be left as a videorecording. And a car with safety lights instaled doesn't even have to be on BK property for such a transmission/videorecording of BK employees to be made. If the employees are outdside, it will most likely see them. If they're inside, well a lot of BK is window glass. However as I said, whle inside a BK restaurant, a BK manager already thought that my radio, complete with headphones, was a "camera" and told me it wasn't allowed in there since "cameras aren't allowed in here". It is very obvious to me that I was not taking any pictures with a RADIO that was capable of recieving only, radio and tv signals. And it's not just BK. Some other restaurants and some other places are doing the same thing with a "no cameras allowed" rule or a "n phoyography allowed" rule. |
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Is it legal to drive through Burger King drive-thru with safetylights installed in/on your car???
On Dec 16, 5:36*pm, radioguy wrote:
On Dec 16, 9:51*am, "Frank Arthur" wrote: You are the joke "radioguy" . The Burger King sign says "no videorecording or *photography allowed".. It doesn't say yo cn't have a camera or camcorder. It says you cannot take photographs or video recording. What's your problem? Either don't go to Burger King r if you go follow their rules. You may be right. That might be a loophole. It's obvious that Burger King's intentions, for whatever reason, is so that there won't be any photographs or videorecordings of their employees. The SAFETY LIGHTS don't actually take "photographs" and don't do any "videorecoring" but they DO transmit live motion pictures in realtime which CAN be videorecorded by other people in their own homes. Which either photographic stills can be made from or can be left as a videorecording. And a car with safety lights instaled doesn't even have to be on BK property for such a transmission/videorecording of BK employees to be made. If the employees are outdside, it will most likely see them. If they're inside, well a lot of BK is window glass. However as I said, whle inside a BK restaurant, a BK manager already thought that my radio, complete with headphones, was a "camera" and told me it wasn't allowed in there since "cameras aren't allowed in here". It is very obvious to me that I was not taking any pictures with a RADIO that was capable of recieving only, radio and tv signals. And it's not just BK. Some other restaurants and some other places are doing the same thing with a "no cameras allowed" rule or a "n phoyography allowed" rule. sounds like dude needs to get a life. |
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Is it legal to drive through Burger King drive-thru with safety lights installed in/on your car???
"radioguy" wrote in message
... This might sound like a joke, but it isn't. However, Burger King has signs up saying "no videorecording or photography allowed" and that "violators will be prosecuted". Oh please. If you are outside the "store" you can record anything you like. People do not have the expectation of privacy in public. This would include the drive-thru line at Burger King. Burger King might be able to give you a trepass order and make it so you can't come back but I'd like to know what law they think you are breaking by recording your experience in their drive thru. I'll bet that law doesn't exist or doesn't apply. What does this have to do with scanners? |
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Is it legal to drive through Burger King drive-thru with safetylights installed in/on your car???
Charlie Durand wrote:
Burger King might be able to give you a trepass order and make it so you can't come back but I'd like to know what law they think you are breaking by recording your experience in their drive thru. I'll bet that law doesn't exist or doesn't apply. Burger King is public property, anyway. You can do anything you want on public property. |
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