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Old April 19th 09, 06:23 AM posted to rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.family
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On Apr 19, 12:15*am, wrote:
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Oregon, Alaska, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, and Missouri all by
law, REQUIRE hams to have a ham radio installed in their vehicle if
they have ham platetes


Got a reference to the relevant statutes?


http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...al/plates.html


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In rec.radio.amateur.policy radioguy wrote:
On Apr 19, 12:15Â*am, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.policy radioguy wrote:

Oregon, Alaska, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, and Missouri all by
law, REQUIRE hams to have a ham radio installed in their vehicle if
they have ham platetes


Got a reference to the relevant statutes?


http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...al/plates.html


Following the links to the relevant state laws, one finds 2 of those
states have no radio requirement, and none of the others have any
installed radio requirement.

Of those with a radio requirement, occasional use of a HT qualifies,
except Virginia where you would have to keep a HT in the vehicle to
meet the letter of the law.

So there is no state that "REQUIRE hams to have a ham radio installed
in their vehicle" from your own link.


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wrote:

In rec.radio.amateur.policy radioguy wrote:

On Apr 19, 12:15 am, wrote:

In rec.radio.amateur.policy radioguy wrote:


Oregon, Alaska, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, and Missouri all by
law, REQUIRE hams to have a ham radio installed in their vehicle if
they have ham platetes

Got a reference to the relevant statutes?


http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...al/plates.html


Following the links to the relevant state laws, one finds 2 of those
states have no radio requirement, and none of the others have any
installed radio requirement.

Of those with a radio requirement, occasional use of a HT qualifies,
except Virginia where you would have to keep a HT in the vehicle to
meet the letter of the law.

So there is no state that "REQUIRE hams to have a ham radio installed
in their vehicle" from your own link.



I don't know about other states but here is the code section from
Virginia word for word--

§ 46.2-738. Special license plates for amateur radio operators.

The Commissioner, on request, may supply any amateur radio operator
licensed by the federal government or an agency thereof, and having
radio transmitting and receiving equipment permanently installed in his
motor vehicle, license plates bearing his official call letters.

If more than one request is made for use, as provided in this section,
of license plates having the same alpha-numeric, the Department shall
accept the first such application. Persons receiving amateur radio
operator special license plates shall affix such plates only to vehicles
to which they are the titled owner.

The Commissioner shall charge a fee of one dollar in addition to the
prescribed cost of state license plates, for each set of license plates
issued under the provisions of this section.

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"PERMANANTLY INSTALLED" is a bit more than just an HT sitting on the
seat all the time.

To my knowledge, I have never heard of anyone being cited for this.
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In rec.radio.amateur.policy 1hogrider wrote:
wrote:

In rec.radio.amateur.policy radioguy wrote:

On Apr 19, 12:15 am, wrote:

In rec.radio.amateur.policy radioguy wrote:


Oregon, Alaska, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, and Missouri all by
law, REQUIRE hams to have a ham radio installed in their vehicle if
they have ham platetes

Got a reference to the relevant statutes?

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...al/plates.html


Following the links to the relevant state laws, one finds 2 of those
states have no radio requirement, and none of the others have any
installed radio requirement.

Of those with a radio requirement, occasional use of a HT qualifies,
except Virginia where you would have to keep a HT in the vehicle to
meet the letter of the law.

So there is no state that "REQUIRE hams to have a ham radio installed
in their vehicle" from your own link.



I don't know about other states but here is the code section from
Virginia word for word--

§ 46.2-738. Special license plates for amateur radio operators.

The Commissioner, on request, may supply any amateur radio operator
licensed by the federal government or an agency thereof, and having
radio transmitting and receiving equipment permanently installed in his
motor vehicle, license plates bearing his official call letters.

If more than one request is made for use, as provided in this section,
of license plates having the same alpha-numeric, the Department shall
accept the first such application. Persons receiving amateur radio
operator special license plates shall affix such plates only to vehicles
to which they are the titled owner.

The Commissioner shall charge a fee of one dollar in addition to the
prescribed cost of state license plates, for each set of license plates
issued under the provisions of this section.

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"PERMANANTLY INSTALLED" is a bit more than just an HT sitting on the
seat all the time.

To my knowledge, I have never heard of anyone being cited for this.


That's what I get for taking the ARRL at face value; Virginia seems
to be the only one with the "permanent" language.

So for the six states mentioned, there is one that requires installation.


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On 21 Apr 2009 01:26:19 GMT, Steve wrote:

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No one in the USA really give a flying rats ass anyway.



I think that is all that neds to be said on the issue. Perhaps the OP
will get it after this...


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meet the letter of the law.

So there is no state that "REQUIRE hams to have a ham radio installed
in their vehicle" from your own link.

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there are several atates.Even on that link. Ilost my links for oregon
and missouri which were on other sites.

Jusyt because the link I gave doesn't mention it in those two states
doesn't men it isn't the law in those two states or isn't on their own
websites.




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In rec.radio.amateur.policy radioguy wrote:
meet the letter of the law.

So there is no state that "REQUIRE hams to have a ham radio installed
in their vehicle" from your own link.

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there are several atates.Even on that link. Ilost my links for oregon
and missouri which were on other sites.


If you don't live in any of those states, why would you give a rat's
ass when such laws only effect residents and even then aren't much
of a burden?

More to the point, why are you continually whining about legal issues
that either have no effect on you, or if they do, are of your own
making?

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On Apr 22, 5:15*pm, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.policy radioguy wrote:

meet the letter of the law.


So there is no state that "REQUIRE hams to have a ham radio installed
in their vehicle" from your own link.


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Jim Pennino


there are several atates.Even on that link. Ilost my links for oregon
and missouri which were on other sites.


If you don't live in any of those states, why would you give a rat's
ass when such laws only effect residents and even then aren't much
of a burden?


because such laws do not affect only residents.

New York's laws do not affect only residents of new york.

And being fined mney you can't afford, having to pay for court cases
you can't afford, and being put in prison for five years for legally
doing what your state by law rewuires you to do no matter which of the
50 states your veicle is in and doing what the federal government by
law requires you to do is very much a burden.

Anonymous/norman already posted new york law overrules federal law
while the hams and other posters already posted federal law overrules
new york law.

and posted the respective laws.

There's a complete conflict between new york law and federal law
with both claiming they overrule the other one.

Also, not only des my radio recieve the police frequencies, it can
also transmit on the police frequencies. And has not been modified in
any way. It came straight out of the box from the factory like that.
That is because the FCC assigned some of the same frequencies to both
ham and police.

yet the idiot new york cops and the idiot wannabe new york cops
posting in this thread think that a ham radio and a radio capable of
recieving police frequencies are two completely separate things even
though the fcc assigned the same frequencies to both police and ham
while thinking that a cb radio, ham radio, and cell phone are all the
one and exact same thing as each other.

So they're basically saying that in new york it's against the law for
hams to have radios capable of recieving ham frequencies since those
frequencies are assigned by the fcc to both ham and police.

Also the threads I read elsewhere by actual cops said you can be
pulled over ticketed and finedin new york for illegal plates if you
have plates from your state with a design in the middle of your call
letters on ham plates since plates with a design in the middle of call
leters are illegalin new york, even though that's the only way your
state, some states issue them.






More to the point, why are you continually whining about legal issues
that either have no effect on you, or if they do, are of your own
making?

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In rec.radio.amateur.policy radioguy wrote:
On Apr 22, 5:15Â*pm, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.policy radioguy wrote:

meet the letter of the law.


So there is no state that "REQUIRE hams to have a ham radio installed
in their vehicle" from your own link.


--
Jim Pennino


there are several atates.Even on that link. Ilost my links for oregon
and missouri which were on other sites.


If you don't live in any of those states, why would you give a rat's
ass when such laws only effect residents and even then aren't much
of a burden?


because such laws do not affect only residents.


State automobile license plate laws only effect state residents.

Transient drivers from other states are not effected.

I doubt you understand the difference between a resident and a transient.

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