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radioguy wrote:


That IS a frequency fight.

Nope, this is all well understood, by everyone in FCC Enforcement, and
been in place for MANY Years, but apparently not by YOU..... You need to
learn a bit more, Sonny, before you blather on about things you don't
understand....


okay. You're correct that I don't understannd everything, but I was
basing my post on what I do know has happened in non-emergency
situations.

All across the country, emcom workers have been kicking hams off the
repeater frequencies, even if they don't own the repeater and the
simplex frequencies when no one else was talking on them, because they
"might have an emergency sometime in the future where they need that
frequency" and then saying the ham frequencies "should be assigned to
emcom use because the other hams aren't ussing them anyway." while
purposely ignoring the fact the reason the other hams aren't ussing
them anyways IS because they theirselves kicked those hams off of
those frequencies so that they could get the entire ham bands
reassigned to emcom and business use only.

Unless the emcom Worker is licensed as a Ham, he is in violation of the
CFR47Part97 just by transmitting on any Frequency listed in Part 97.
Then if he is a Licensed Ham, he would be in Violation of the CommACT
of 1934 as Amended, for initiating a SOL&P Communication where none
existed, OR, interfering with an ongoing communication in progress.
Either one is prosecutable. These so-called emcomm folks, apparently
don't know the CommAct of 1934, or FCC Rules very well, or they wouldn't
be making such STUPID assertions. This all seems like a paranoid
delusion, only in your mind, as it isn't a problem in most other places
around the country.

That is what the current argument on the internet is about.

Or at least part of what it's about.

Also, other countries have been watching the situation and called the
emcom use in ham radio "a disease peculiar to only the U.S."

They were afraid that their own countries would follow suit of their
equivalent of the grants and cause wars between the counntries, and
require hams to participate in those wars. (that's what they thought).

Now, how does that comply with the other stated main purpose of
aamateur radio, "to promote international goodwill"?

Answer: It doesn't.

The FCC was correct in it's interpretation of the rules.

Now as I undertand it,I think emcom can still use the frs
frequencies, although now I'm not sure if that's what the FCC meant by
"personal business" or not, as long as it's half a watt or less on the
correct frs channels.


These self-appointed emcomm folks you talk about, can use FRS, as
covered under the Blanket FRS License in the USA. they may also apply
for and receive a GMRS License for their outfit and use that as well,
once licensed.

They can still use CB.

Yes, they also can use the Part 95 Frequencies under that Blanket
License in the USA.


They can apply for use of public safety frequencies.

In order to use Part 90 frequencies they would need to apply for and
receive a license for a particular Radio Service Listed in Part 90.

Business Radio Service would be available to them, with just an
application, filed.

Any Public Safety, Fire, Local Government, or EMS Radio Service Licenses
would need to be applied for, BY the local Government, and then these
folks, could be users under the local Government License.

They might just sneak in by trying the Special Emergency Radio Service,
IF they could somehow convince the FCC Licensing Folks that they can meet
the requirements of that Radio Service. I think that would be a REAL
Stretch, however, knowing the FCC Licensing folks, as I do....

But I'm not a lawyer, and as you said, don't know everything, so it's
best to check with someone who does know.

Being a reTired FCC Field Agent, and doing FCC License Consulting for
the last 40 years, I do know SOME of the Policies in question.....