richard wrote:
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:39:54 -0800 (PST), radioguy wrote:

Not satisfied with just outlawing cb and ham radios which use hand-
held microphones, Canada has now outlawed hands-free ham radio by
hams, and hands-free cb by cbers, yet still allows two-way radio use
by taxi cab drivers, school-bus drivers, and businesses, police,
etcetera even though all those people have MUCH LESS training in
operating a two-way radio than hams do.

such as almost none, if not none, although it is usually none.

even low-class redneck cbers know more about how to properly use a
radio then those people do.

yet the only ones allowed to use it are the ones with little or no
training while the ones not allowed to use it ae the ones with the
proper training in how to use it.

If the police had the proper training, then they would not be
arresting people under phony radio laws which they claim is the
actual law.

so that alone is proof the police do not have the proper training in
howw to properly use a two-way radio since they do not even know the
radio laws that they are trying to enforce, and therefore should also
be prohibited from using a two-way mobile radio if the cbers and
hams, which have the actual training as it is required to get their
ham raadio license also are not allowed to operate their two-way
radios mobile.

Not quite.
The Ontario law is requiring users of various devices to be "hands
free" by 2012.
Basically, no mic in the hand.

It is not all of Canada, just Ontario.

Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?


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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you even
wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a special
permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your registration
with the approval.

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:14 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?


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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you even
wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a special
permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your registration
with the approval.

Where was this supposed to have happened? No state ever had such a law.

"richard" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:14 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know
whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?


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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you even
wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a special
permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your registration
with the approval.

Where was this supposed to have happened? No state ever had such a law.


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Ach... I thought I had mentioned the state. It was Wyoming, and they
certainly did have such a law. I remember the headache when I tried to
register my first car there. I ended up using a pocket transistor radio on
the dash rather than pay the extra money (I was only 18, and didn't have a
lot of disposable income at the time..

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:56:46 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"richard" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:14 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
...

Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know
whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?


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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you even
wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a special
permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your registration
with the approval.

Where was this supposed to have happened? No state ever had such a law.


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Ach... I thought I had mentioned the state. It was Wyoming, and they
certainly did have such a law. I remember the headache when I tried to
register my first car there. I ended up using a pocket transistor radio on
the dash rather than pay the extra money (I was only 18, and didn't have a
lot of disposable income at the time..

Sounds more like a cash strapped city law than a state law.

There was an unwritten "law" that said red cars belonged to the fire dept.

richard wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:56:46 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"richard" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:14 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
...

Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know
whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving
along with both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they
know you are talking to a passenger, or singing along with the
music on your car radio. And why would it be any more dangerous
than doing either one of those two things?


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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you
even wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a
special permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your
registration with the approval.

Where was this supposed to have happened? No state ever had such a
law.


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Ach... I thought I had mentioned the state. It was Wyoming, and they
certainly did have such a law. I remember the headache when I tried
to register my first car there. I ended up using a pocket transistor
radio on the dash rather than pay the extra money (I was only 18,
and didn't have a lot of disposable income at the time..

Sounds more like a cash strapped city law than a state law.

There was an unwritten "law" that said red cars belonged to the fire
dept.
I can believe it. There have been many dumb laws passed. Some of them have
been thrown out by the higher courts, either 'state or federal. Like the guy
back in the 60's who wanted to start a cable TV business in southern
California. Every movie theatre had a petition in their lobbys to prevent
him from doing it. and hunderwds of thousands of movie goers signed it. Not
only that, but the stupid
California voters voted for it! Of course, the California Supreme Court
threw it out. (His cable business didn't take away anyone's rights. If he
came to your door and asked you if you wanted him to deliver a cable signal
to your house, all you had to do was say, "No", and slam the door in his
face. Ande, if your neighbor had one delivered to his living room, You
wouldn't even know it, so it wouldn't hurt you in the least) But millions
of California voters pulled the lever on "no" for that poor guy, and it cost
him a bundle to fight it to the state supreme court..... Go figure.....
People haven't a clue as to what the Constitution is all about. And by,
"people" I also mean our legislaters....

Here in Nova Scotia we fought the hands free law when it was written and had
Amateur radio excepted from the law.

On Nov 7, 7:51*pm, richard wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:56:46 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:
"richard" *wrote in message
.. .

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:14 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"Bill Graham" *wrote in message
om...

Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know
whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?

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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you even
wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a special
permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your registration
with the approval.

Where was this supposed to have happened? No state ever had such a law.

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Ach... I thought I had mentioned *the state. It was Wyoming, and they
certainly did have such a law. I remember the headache when I tried to
register my first car there. I ended up using a pocket transistor radio on
the dash rather than pay the extra money (I was only 18, and didn't have a
lot of disposable income at the time..

Sounds more like a cash strapped city law than a state law.

- There was an unwritten "law" that said
- red cars belonged to the fire dept.

=ERGO= If'n you was in a Red Car/Truck
and was not a Fire {Emergency} Vehicle :
YOU MUST HAVE BEEN SPEEDING [.]
-and- Deserved a Speeding Ticket.

Brenda Ann wrote:
"richard" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:14 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
...

Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know
whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along
with both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you
are talking to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your
car radio. And why would it be any more dangerous than doing either
one of those two
things? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you
even wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a
special permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your
registration with the approval.

Where was this supposed to have happened? No state ever had such a
law.

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Ach... I thought I had mentioned the state. It was Wyoming, and they
certainly did have such a law. I remember the headache when I tried to
register my first car there. I ended up using a pocket transistor
radio on the dash rather than pay the extra money (I was only 18, and
didn't have a lot of disposable income at the time..

There is probably some medical term for, "Fear of new devices". But for sure
there should be one for, "Grabbing an opportuniuty to steal money from the
taxpayers." It is a disease one catches while on the campaigne trail.......

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:14 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
...

Another dumb, unenforceable liberal law. How can they possible know whether
you are using a hands free transceiver or not? You are driving along with
both hands on the wheel and talking..... For all they know you are talking
to a passenger, or singing along with the music on your car radio. And why
would it be any more dangerous than doing either one of those two things?


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I don't know if it's still that way, but back in the 70's, if you even
wanted to have a car radio in your car, you had to apply for a special
permit at the DMV, and they would levy a tax and stamp your registration
with the approval.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKoekfcC9y0

Musst be yours huh radioguy?