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Trade Modded DX-398 For Scanner
Here is a RS DX-398 in great condition. This radio has several improvements
that have been implimented over a "stock radio". These are as follows: 1-an additional broadband rf amplifier has been added internally to boost reception with the telescopic antenna. This really helps boost weak signals. 2-Tuning mute and smooth knob tuning to eliminate the stepped tuning knob action and chugging when bandscanning with tuning knob. This makes for much better feel when tuning than on a stock radio. 3-The audio has been improved to get rid of the tinny sound normally found in a stock radio. It has good volume and punch. This one is easy to listen to for extended time. 4-The stock radio has a very weak green led backlight system for the LCD display. It makes it hard to read in dim light. The dim green leds have been change to brighter blue leds. This makes it much easier to see in dim light. Also note that when using an AC adaptor the light can be selected to stay on all the time. 5-The stock radio has a very slow AGC, this has been corrected to a fast AGC time which makes station reception on worldband much better. These modifications make an already good radio much better. This is the best portable I have owned. The audio is much better than stock. Sensitivity is excellent! I can listen to 80 meter hams easily with the whip antenna! I just don't use it much. I need a scanner. Thanks for reading! I'm looking to trade for a mint RS Pro-95 or ? DeWayne K9KZ |
DeWayne ...
^ ... Morse Code (obsolete) ... Morse code isn't obsolete -- it can still extend to greater distances than voice. Another advantage of Morse code is that several conversations can simultaneously exist on a single frequency. Each station uses a tone different enough to be distinguished by ear and an experienced operator can mentally filter out all but the tone he's copying. Frank |
"Frank" wrote in message
news:01c386e0$9a92e3e0$0125250a@yludnifduhzssbbv.. . ... [SNIP] Another advantage of Morse code is that several conversations can simultaneously exist on a single frequency. Each station uses a tone different enough to be distinguished by ear and an experienced operator can mentally filter out all but the tone he's copying. This is not true. If the "tone" is different at all, then the carrier is on a different frequency. Two (or more) CW transmissions on the same frequency will have the identical "tone". You can fit CW transmissions very close together, but not on the same "single frequency". |
Budgie wrote:
This is not true. If the "tone" is different at all, then the carrier is on a different frequency. Two (or more) CW transmissions on the same frequency will have the identical "tone". You can fit CW transmissions very close together, but not on the same "single frequency". If it's code, it's not on a single frequency in the first place. Not only theorically! Listen to code through a 10Hz filter and it's nearly uncopyiable. The audio effect is that the filter rings as loudly as the signal. But it's actually a mathematical effect. You're cutting out too much of the bandwidth that the code actually occupies. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
^ Budgie wrote:
^ If the "tone" is different at all, then the carrier is on ^ a different frequency. OK, I was under the impression that a tone was transmitter on the carrier and that the tone could be adjusted. But that would be modulation. Ron Hardin ... ^ If it's code, it's not on a single frequency in the first place. A single freq is not possible. You're only picking on words. "A single frequency" always implies the frequency that the signal is centered on. Another advantage is that CW has a narrower bandwidth than any voice modulated signal. Frank |
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^ Just FYI: ^ CW Bandwidth = wpm X 4 (e.g., 40 WPM = 160 Hz) ^ From the ARRL License Manual 1976: ^ "With proper shaping, the necessary keying bandwidth is equal to 4 ^ times the speed in words per minute for International Morse Code; ^ e.g. at 25 words per minute, the bandwidth is approximately 100 ^ cycles." Thank you. SSB is about twice that right? And isn't SSB the narrowest voice emission? Frank |
Jack ...
^ CW is an unmodulated transmission ... ^ Radioteletype (RTTY and AFSK) also use unmodulated carriers. On HF ^ bands, most use unmodulated Lower Sideband. As with CW, the receiver ^ reinserts the carrier, causing the AF-shifted beat note. And CW requires only the transceiver and key while the other data types require another, often more expensive, piece of hardware. So am I still correct that the advantages of CW a - Narrower bandwidth. The bandwidth is effectively even narrower because overlapping adjacent signals can still be distinguished by the human ear. - Greater effective range. - Less equipment than other data types, which also have greater bandwidth. - Can be used without a microphone and without a key. Just open the box and short a couple of contacts. Frank |
"Frank" schreef in bericht news:01c3873c$96939df0$0125250a@preimuffyaouanyy.. . Spurious Noise yI5eb.34774$Ms2.224@fed1read03... ^ Just FYI: ^ CW Bandwidth = wpm X 4 (e.g., 40 WPM = 160 Hz) ^ From the ARRL License Manual 1976: ^ "With proper shaping, the necessary keying bandwidth is equal to 4 ^ times the speed in words per minute for International Morse Code; ^ e.g. at 25 words per minute, the bandwidth is approximately 100 ^ cycles." Thank you. SSB is about twice that right? And isn't SSB the narrowest voice emission? No, SSB is about 20 times the bandwith of CW MRe PE1NQR |
Frank wrote: DeWayne ... ^ ... Morse Code (obsolete) ... Morse code isn't obsolete -- it can still extend to greater distances than voice. Another advantage of Morse code is that several conversations can simultaneously exist on a single frequency. Each station uses a tone different enough to be distinguished by ear and an experienced operator can mentally filter out all but the tone he's copying. Frank With BPL coming Morse Code might be the only way left to communicate on HF. Sorry I'm not a ham and I don't want to see CW go. It call BASICS! Once you start forgetting about the basics then you start developing a backwards nation. Just look at school, they don't teach the basics any more they just throw the kids on computers. Do you know a single McDonalds employee who can make change in their head??? CW isn't hard to learn, not even a ham and I can receive 15 WPM and actually enjoy it.... George http://www.MilAirComms.com |
Normally the bandwidth of an SSB transmission is about 3.5 kHz. It of course
can be much wider if the transmitter passes frequencies above that. Listen around 3.945 MHz and you will hear a group that has enhanced audio and they get broadcast quality SSB along with the expected increase in bandwidth .. "Frank" wrote in message news:01c3873c$96939df0$0125250a@preimuffyaouanyy.. . Spurious Noise yI5eb.34774$Ms2.224@fed1read03... ^ Just FYI: ^ CW Bandwidth = wpm X 4 (e.g., 40 WPM = 160 Hz) ^ From the ARRL License Manual 1976: ^ "With proper shaping, the necessary keying bandwidth is equal to 4 ^ times the speed in words per minute for International Morse Code; ^ e.g. at 25 words per minute, the bandwidth is approximately 100 ^ cycles." Thank you. SSB is about twice that right? And isn't SSB the narrowest voice emission? Frank |
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^ With BPL coming Morse Code might be the only way left to ^ communicate on HF. So you think CW will come through the interference fairly well? I guess everything will if the range is close enough, like within a few blocks perhaps. You're probably already aware of it but ARRL conducted some field experiments in areas where the power companies are testing BPL. I didn't read the report but I recall hearing that the interference was about S9 in those areas. Frank |
"Frank" wrote in message news:01c3873d$fff5f5d0$0125250a@preimuffyaouanyy.. . Jack ... the other data types require another, often more expensive, piece of hardware. Yes, but I can afford it. So am I still correct that the advantages of CW a - Narrower bandwidth. The bandwidth is effectively even narrower because overlapping adjacent signals can still be distinguished by the human ear. - Greater effective range. - Less equipment than other data types, which also have greater bandwidth. - Can be used without a microphone and without a key. Just open the box and short a couple of contacts. You forgot one: Imminent extinction. |
Now that was about a lame argument.
"GeorgeF" wrote in message news:3F796A01.8010004@licensed4funREMOVEBEFOREFLIG HT.com... With BPL coming Morse Code might be the only way left to communicate on HF. Sorry I'm not a ham and I don't want to see CW go. It call BASICS! Once you start forgetting about the basics then you start developing a backwards nation. Just look at school, they don't teach the basics any more they just throw the kids on computers. Do you know a single McDonalds employee who can make change in their head??? CW isn't hard to learn, not even a ham and I can receive 15 WPM and actually enjoy it.... George http://www.MilAirComms.com |
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^ You forgot one: ^ Imminent extinction. Not true. You're being childish. Frank |
What is the USA waiting for?? Will we be the only country in the world
with a morse code requirement?? Ireland and Singapore have become the latest countries to remove the requirement for Amateur Radio applicants to pass a Morse code examination for HF access. In addition, Switzerland, Belgium, the UK, Germany, Norway, the Netherlands, Austria, New Zealand and Australia have moved to drop their Morse requirements. Yet the USA will surely be the last to join the rest of the world in doing what is obvious to everyone else. |
Jibbs wrote: In addition, Switzerland, Belgium, the UK, Germany, Norway, the Netherlands, Austria, New Zealand and Australia have moved to drop their Morse requirements. So what? If all these countires jumped off bridges would that mean we would be nuts for not jump too? What these counties do are their own business and who wants to be put in the same class as Germany anyway! Yet the USA will surely be the last to join the rest of the world in doing what is obvious to everyone else. Oh I hope not, I hope the USA never joins the rest of the world. We don't need a 80, 40, 20, and 15 meter CB bands. God forbid that we have something happen here far worse than 9/11 which renders Voice communications useless and we need to go back to basices. After all its a lot easier to build a CW rig than a voice rig in the event of a national emergency. Once you stop teaching/learning the basics then you'll gradully become a less educated national. Just look at workers in McDonalds, when the computer quits working they can't make sales..... George http://www.MilAirComms.com |
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 15:20:10 -0400, GeorgeF in rec.radio.scanner -
om : Yet the USA will surely be the last to join the rest of the world in doing what is obvious to everyone else. Oh I hope not, I hope the USA never joins the rest of the world. We don't need a 80, 40, 20, and 15 meter CB bands. God forbid that we have something happen here far worse than 9/11 which renders Voice communications useless and we need to go back to basices. Like terrorists stab everyone who has a radio transmitter in the throat with a pen, or even worse? Perhaps a laryngitis epidemic? After all its a lot easier to build a CW rig than a voice rig in the event of a national emergency. That is why I have a 50,000 volt spark gap rig in storage. LOL Once you stop teaching/learning the basics then you'll gradully become a less educated national. Just look at workers in McDonalds, when the computer quits working they can't make sales..... Well, considering McDonalds isn't set up for paper & pen transactions I would say that is understandable. How does your ebay business do when your computer takes a ****? |
"Frank" wrote in message news:01c3873c$96939df0$0125250a@preimuffyaouanyy.. . Spurious Noise yI5eb.34774$Ms2.224@fed1read03... ^ Just FYI: ^ CW Bandwidth = wpm X 4 (e.g., 40 WPM = 160 Hz) ^ From the ARRL License Manual 1976: ^ "With proper shaping, the necessary keying bandwidth is equal to 4 ^ times the speed in words per minute for International Morse Code; ^ e.g. at 25 words per minute, the bandwidth is approximately 100 ^ cycles." Thank you. SSB is about twice that right? And isn't SSB the narrowest voice emission? Frank An SSB signal is about 3000 cycles/sec (i.e. Hertz) or 30 times as wide. AM and FM are even wider. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"Frank" wrote in message news:01c3873d$fff5f5d0$0125250a@preimuffyaouanyy.. . Jack ... ^ CW is an unmodulated transmission ... ^ Radioteletype (RTTY and AFSK) also use unmodulated carriers. On HF ^ bands, most use unmodulated Lower Sideband. As with CW, the receiver ^ reinserts the carrier, causing the AF-shifted beat note. And CW requires only the transceiver and key while the other data types require another, often more expensive, piece of hardware. So am I still correct that the advantages of CW a - Narrower bandwidth. The bandwidth is effectively even narrower because overlapping adjacent signals can still be distinguished by the human ear. - Greater effective range. - Less equipment than other data types, which also have greater bandwidth. - Can be used without a microphone and without a key. Just open the box and short a couple of contacts. Frank Pretty close. Some of the other digital modes are narrower but as you state, you need more hardware such as a computer. In addition each of the other digital modes has its own unique set of advantages and disadvantages in on air operation. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:05:38 -0400, GeorgeF in rec.radio.scanner -
om : wrote: Well, considering McDonalds isn't set up for paper & pen transactions I would say that is understandable. How does your ebay business do when your computer takes a ****? I do very well because I still (and always will) do a consider amount of business and sales via more traditional marketing means such as mail and newspaper/magzine advertising. George http://www.MilAirComms.com http://www.AuctionWholesaler.com (since edna so badly wants to bring it up) Blah blah blah, that is all we ever hear from you. LMAO@U HAhaHAAHAH "At Your Request We Can Drop-Ship Your Orders! Only a Limited Number of Dealerships Available, SignUp Today! Normally we charge $34.99 however for a short time we're offering our Dealer Startup Package for only $19.99! You Must Act NOW To Get This Special Price. Start-Up Fee On Sale for $19.99 ITEM #: DEALERPACK-AW" Haw haw haw, sell alot of them there grandfather clocks on ebay? Only $20 to join your program. I'd be surprised if you have even sold the first 'dealership". You are a joke little man. Thanks for the laugh! |
So you're a snail mail spammer. An honorable profession. Right up there with
lawyers. "GeorgeF" wrote in message news:3F7B41A2.3010502@licensed4funREMOVEBEFOREFLIG HT.com... I do very well because I still (and always will) do a consider amount of business and sales via more traditional marketing means such as mail and newspaper/magzine advertising. George http://www.MilAirComms.com http://www.AuctionWholesaler.com (since edna so badly wants to bring it up) |
Dee D. Flint ...
^ "Frank" news:01c3873d$fff5f5d0$0125250a@preimuffyaouanyy.. . ^ So am I still correct that the advantages of CW a ^ - Narrower bandwidth.... ^ - Greater effective range. ^ - Less equipment than other data types, which also ^ have greater bandwidth. ^ - Can be used without a microphone and without a key.... ^ Some of the other digital modes are narrower but as you ^ state, you need more hardware such as a computer. That surprises me. Frank |
So what? If all these countires jumped off bridges would that mean we would be nuts for not jump too? Spurious analogy. There is no correlation between the subject of morse code testing and suicide. Oh I hope not, I hope the USA never joins the rest of the world. We don't need a 80, 40, 20, and 15 meter CB bands. (1) what will you say after 6 months or a year, and the nations you listed have seen no such degredation in band quality after dropping the code requirement? (2) the majority of hams making ham radio code violations on the HF bands are hams that have had the morse code testing, high speed testing at that as they are older hams that were tested many many years ago. (3) with the rest of the world dropping it, do you really think that the ham community, with it's growing number of members itching to ditch the code, WON'T start increasing pressure to the breaking point to finally ditch the irrelavent and outdated code test requirement? The tide's pretty much against you. God forbid that we have something happen here far worse than 9/11 which renders Voice communications useless and we need to go back to basices. Ah, but the liberals are saying that no such thing will ever happen, that the REAL threat is the republicans decreasing civil liberty and crushing freedom here and that terrorism isn't a real threat. Are you saying they are *wrong*? Clint |
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
.com... Pretty close. Some of the other digital modes are narrower but as you state, you need more hardware such as a computer. In addition each of the other digital modes has its own unique set of advantages and disadvantages in on air operation. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE All good reasons to preform morse code voluntarily. It's just that it no longer needs to be forced down people's throats *involuntarily* Clint KB5ZHT -- -- Get in touch with your soul: www.glennbeck.com OR, if you're a liberal, maybe you can FIND one -- |
Clint ...
^ (1) what will you say after 6 months or a year, and the ^ nations you listed have seen no such degredation in band ^ quality after dropping the code requirement? What is their population compared to the U.S.? Do those other countries have the trouble on the 11 meter band that the U.S. has? If the code requirement is unnecessary then what about the electronics knowledge requirement? Is it necessary to know how a transistor functions in order to operate a two-meter radio? Should we also drop that from testing? Should the exam be nothing more than a test of the FCC rules? Can you come up with reasons to drop that also? Someone will, eventually, if we continue to drop knowledge and ability requirements. Clint ... ^ It's just that it no longer needs to be forced down ^ people's throats *involuntarily* But it isn't forced and it isn't involuntary. An Amateur license is something that is voluntarily sought. Frank |
"Frank" wrote in message news:01c3887f$f653d860$0125250a@kqncdrpzwptsjceo.. . Dee D. Flint ... ^ "Frank" news:01c3873d$fff5f5d0$0125250a@preimuffyaouanyy.. . ^ So am I still correct that the advantages of CW a ^ - Narrower bandwidth.... ^ - Greater effective range. ^ - Less equipment than other data types, which also ^ have greater bandwidth. ^ - Can be used without a microphone and without a key.... ^ Some of the other digital modes are narrower but as you ^ state, you need more hardware such as a computer. That surprises me. Frank Well PSK31 is narrower than morse code but the problem with it (according to our local PSK31 guru) is that because it is narrower, it is hard to find the PSK31 signals unless you know exactly where to look. I.e. just dialing around, you easily zoom right past them without ever knowing they are there. For that reason, I believe they have established calling frequencies in each band so they can find each other. Plus they use some type of software to scan and show peaks. I'm not into myself but we have several in the local club who are. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Edna, you seem to delight in attacking George, a person who has done more
for the scanner hobby than 99% of the folks on here. What have you done except drop in your vitriolic comments in a "drive by" of words. Get a life, and come back when you have contributed something positive to the hobby! wrote in message ... Blah blah blah, that is all we ever hear from you. |
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:38:24 -0400, "w4jle" W4JLE(remove this to in rec.radio.scanner - :
Edna, you seem to delight in attacking George, a person who has done more for the scanner hobby than 99% of the folks on here. LOL, I see how he helps here. You a big milair fan are ya? What have you done except drop in your vitriolic comments in a "drive by" of words. Made you mad? Get a life, and come back when you have contributed something positive to the hobby! Will do! wrote in message .. . Blah blah blah, that is all we ever hear from you. |
Dee D. Flint ...
^ Well PSK31 is narrower than morse code but the problem with ^ it ... is that because it is narrower, it is hard to find the ^ PSK31 signals unless you know exactly where to look. I didn't know that the bandwidth was narrower but I have discovered that the signals are hard to find. So is RTTY for me; but then I'm new at this. This thread is in too many groups and I only read one of them so I'm backing out of the discussion. Thanks to you and the others who have provided informative replies. Frank |
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message n
Well PSK31 is narrower than morse code but the problem with it (according to our local PSK31 guru) is that because it is narrower, it is hard to find the PSK31 signals unless you know exactly where to look. I.e. just dialing around, you easily zoom right past them without ever knowing they are there. For that reason, I believe they have established calling frequencies in each band so they can find each other. Plus they use some type of software to scan and show peaks. I'm not into myself but we have several in the local club who are. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE PSK31 is simple. Almost all the programs have spectrum graphs, or waterfall displays to show signals within the passband used. Yes, most PSK is on an established freq, +- . You don't "dial around" for PSK31. You tune the radio to the set frequency, and the software is used to "tune". Say 20m, you would tune in 14.070.15 and all the rest is done in the software. You see a spectrum graph that shows all the signals in the passband. To receive one, you just click on it. Bingo, it locks up and starts to receive. The program I use "hamscope" can receive two at a time in separate windows. Also works rtty, bpsk, etc..Most all the common PSK freq's are at .070.15 per each ham band. IE: 3.570.15 7.070.15 14.070.15 21.070.15 28.070.15 Maybe be others such as novice PSK, etc .. MK |
Oh I hope not, I hope the USA never joins the rest of the world. We
don't need a 80, 40, 20, and 15 meter CB bands. God forbid that we have something happen here far worse than 9/11 which renders Voice communications useless and we need to go back to basices. Like terrorists stab everyone who has a radio transmitter in the throat with a pen, or even worse? Perhaps a laryngitis epidemic? Or don't forget the time you will be stranded at the north pole with nothing in sight for miles but a phone booth with a telephone where the microphone is missing and you have to use the touch tone pad to send a message in morse code with! I love that one. Always some sort of ridiculous situation that would never happen to try and come up with an instance where morse code could somehow be used. But then don't forget when you use that phone, the operator, police, or whoever you call will not understand morse code, and that is the most important point everyone on that demented side keeps forgetting. The Emergency Broadcast System never sent messages or tests in morse code, but English voice. The public would never understand it otherwise. Commercials and spam are always in plain English so the message can reach as many people as possible, not be limited to the two people who know morse code. Note how only idiots post binaries on newsgroups in yenc, but spammers don't, because they want EVERYONE to be able to decode and view the spam, not just two people. After all its a lot easier to build a CW rig than a voice rig in the event of a national emergency. That is why I have a 50,000 volt spark gap rig in storage. LOL\ In a national emergency, people are not suddenly going to understand morse code, so that would be worthless unless you want to try and communicate with some 80 year old ham radio operator that is a hundred miles away. I would rather reach some emergency agency personnel that are not going to know morse code, but spent time learning important stuff instead that will now be useful in an emergency. Once you stop teaching/learning the basics then you'll gradully become a less educated national. Just look at workers in McDonalds, when the computer quits working they can't make sales..... Well, considering McDonalds isn't set up for paper & pen transactions I would say that is understandable. How does your ebay business do when your computer takes a ****? In an emergency, McDonalds, Ebay and Morse Code will be the last things anyone is going to worry about. |
Jeff Renkin wrote: Oh I hope not, I hope the USA never joins the rest of the world. We don't need a 80, 40, 20, and 15 meter CB bands. God forbid that we have something happen here far worse than 9/11 which renders Voice communications useless and we need to go back to basices. Like terrorists stab everyone who has a radio transmitter in the throat with a pen, or even worse? Perhaps a laryngitis epidemic? Or don't forget the time you will be stranded at the north pole with nothing in sight for miles but a phone booth with a telephone where the microphone is missing and you have to use the touch tone pad to send a message in morse code with! I love that one. Always some sort of ridiculous situation that would never happen to try and come up with an instance where morse code could somehow be used. But then don't forget when you use that phone, the operator, police, or whoever you call will not understand morse code, and that is the most important point everyone on that demented side keeps forgetting. The Emergency Broadcast System never sent messages or tests in morse code, but English voice. The public would never understand it otherwise. Commercials and spam are always in plain English so the message can reach as many people as possible, not be limited to the two people who know morse code. Note how only idiots post binaries on newsgroups in yenc, but spammers don't, because they want EVERYONE to be able to decode and view the spam, not just two people. After all its a lot easier to build a CW rig than a voice rig in the event of a national emergency. That is why I have a 50,000 volt spark gap rig in storage. LOL\ In a national emergency, people are not suddenly going to understand morse code, so that would be worthless unless you want to try and communicate with some 80 year old ham radio operator that is a hundred miles away. I would rather reach some emergency agency personnel that are not going to know morse code, but spent time learning important stuff instead that will now be useful in an emergency. Once you stop teaching/learning the basics then you'll gradully become a less educated national. Just look at workers in McDonalds, when the computer quits working they can't make sales..... Well, considering McDonalds isn't set up for paper & pen transactions I would say that is understandable. How does your ebay business do when your computer takes a ****? In an emergency, McDonalds, Ebay and Morse Code will be the last things anyone is going to worry about. Mommy, Mommy, make that mean 'ol FCC man give me a license.... Mommy, I cain't learn the code, I have ADD... Mommy, Mommy please give me more Ritalin.... On and on it goes, there are those who can, and those who can't. Next you'll be bitching about the requirements to get into medical school... to stringent for ya? Too bad. |
^ (1) what will you say after 6 months or a year, and the
^ nations you listed have seen no such degredation in band ^ quality after dropping the code requirement? What is their population compared to the U.S.? What does that have to do with anything? Is this the "big bully approach" again? The US will eventually drop the requirement like EVERY country on this planet, the point is why the US always has to be so behind the times and the LAST one to figure out how to do it. We should have been the great example to the world and been the FIRST one to drop it, not the last. Do those other countries have the trouble on the 11 meter band that the U.S. has? What trouble? That it is all nothing but Mexicans with illegal amplifiers anymore? What does morse code or having to get a license or use call signs have to do with that? If the code requirement is unnecessary then what about the electronics knowledge requirement? If you are going to build and set up high power transmitters, you had better know the requirements needed to operate the equipment. If you are going to use a microphone, then you have better know how to speak too. But needing to know morse code before you are allowed to use a microphone on HF is like adding a Russian speaking requirement before you are allowed to drive a car on a US road. You still need to know the rules of the road, but you don't need to take a test to show morse code before you drive a car either. Is it necessary to know how a transistor functions in order to operate a two-meter radio? No, that is not needed. What is needed is to know about antenna systems, interference issues, band plans, laws, and anything else needed to know before setting up and operating a ham radio transmitter setup. No we don't get tested on how a car engine works before getting a driver's license, so we don't need to be tested on how a transistor works before being allowed to use a radio. That is as ridiculous as having to know morse code before being allowed to use a microphone. If you want to use morse code on ham radio, then you should be required to learn how to use morse code first. Those not wishing to ever use morse code do not need to learn it, just as we don't all learn Chinese before we can post on newsgroups in English. Should the exam be nothing more than a test of the FCC rules? Think WHY one has to be tested on the things we are tested before being allowed to get behind a car and be on the road with other drivers. Now apply that to getting a license before being allowed to use a radio that could cause harm to others if it is not operated properly. But it isn't forced and it isn't involuntary. An Amateur license is something that is voluntarily sought. Same with a driver's license. So let's make a morse code requirement for that too then? |
Pretty close. Some of the other digital modes are narrower but as you
state, you need more hardware such as a computer. In addition each of the other digital modes has its own unique set of advantages and disadvantages in on air operation. The biggest disadvantage would be narrowing down the percentage of people on the other end that would be able to decipher your emergency message. If you are calling for help, you want as many people on the receiving end of your transmission to be able to UNDERSTAND your message as possible. The emergency broadcast system (now the EAS) works on English Voice, NOT with morse code. And it is designed to be used in an emergency. Same with police, fire and ambulance radios. Imagine the president addressing the public with a morse code key. Might as well talk to a wall. |
Mommy, Mommy, make that mean 'ol FCC man give me a license.... Mommy, I cain't learn the code, I have ADD... Mommy,
I would love to see you cry to your mommy when you can't get your driver's license when you turn 16 because they may add a requirement that you have to learn Russian first as a requirement to drive a car. On and on it goes, there are those who can, and those who can't. Next you'll be bitching about the requirements to get into medical school... to stringent for ya? Too bad. If morse code was a requirement to get into medical school, then yes, so would everyone. (except for insane ham radio operators without common sense reasoning abilities) |
It's been my experience that those who whine the most about the code requirement are
those who just won't take the time to learn it. Excuses, excuses.... Funny, but most people I hear complaining about the requirement already learned and passed the morse code test and are General and Extra license holders. I wish that the next time you wanted to fill your car up with gas, you had to waste time learning Chinese first or no gas for your car. If you whined about it, we would all laugh at you, call you lazy for not taking the time to learn Chinese. Please don't be stupid. Stop, read COMPREHEND what you are reading and THINK about things before you start making statements that make no sense. |
Jeff Renkin wrote: Mommy, Mommy, make that mean 'ol FCC man give me a license.... Mommy, I cain't learn the code, I have ADD... Mommy, I would love to see you cry to your mommy when you can't get your driver's license when you turn 16 because they may add a requirement that you have to learn Russian first as a requirement to drive a car. On and on it goes, there are those who can, and those who can't. Next you'll be bitching about the requirements to get into medical school... to stringent for ya? Too bad. If morse code was a requirement to get into medical school, then yes, so would everyone. (except for insane ham radio operators without common sense reasoning abilities) Yep, that's me, no common sense. However I was bright enough to be able to learn the code. :-) I turned 16 a long time ago, and already have my drivers license. |
Jeff Renkin wrote: It's been my experience that those who whine the most about the code requirement are those who just won't take the time to learn it. Excuses, excuses.... Funny, but most people I hear complaining about the requirement already learned and passed the morse code test and are General and Extra license holders. I wish that the next time you wanted to fill your car up with gas, you had to waste time learning Chinese first or no gas for your car. If you whined about it, we would all laugh at you, call you lazy for not taking the time to learn Chinese. Please don't be stupid. Stop, read COMPREHEND what you are reading and THINK about things before you start making statements that make no sense. You should certainly follow your own advice! I already did stop, I did read, and I did comprehend. I passed the 13 word per minute code requirement! |
Jeff Renkin wrote: It's been my experience that those who whine the most about the code requirement are those who just won't take the time to learn it. Excuses, excuses.... Funny, but most people I hear complaining about the requirement already learned and passed the morse code test and are General and Extra license holders. I wish that the next time you wanted to fill your car up with gas, you had to waste time learning Chinese first or no gas for your car. If you whined about it, we would all laugh at you, call you lazy for not taking the time to learn Chinese. Please don't be stupid. Why, don't you want company? Stop, read COMPREHEND what you are reading and THINK about things before you start making statements that make no sense. |
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