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Old January 24th 04, 06:34 AM
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In article , "Rodney" writes:

Yes indeed! An "enterprising ham" (or anybody else) with a Yaesu Ft-2400,
FT-2500, or even the dual banders can clip a wire, desolder a jumper and be
good to go up to and above 164 mhz.


164? That's nothin! Alinco handhelds go all the way to 174.


For instance. It is all too easy to modify one of these rigs to transmit on
154, 155, or higher freqs. All one needs is an antenna that handles these
frequencies without causing the protection circuit to dump the radio. A Rad
Shack discone is one such antenna....


Better yet: an antenna cut to resonance. Since 154Mhz is a popular business
frequency, antennas designed to transmit here are inexpensive and easy-to-find.
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Old January 24th 04, 07:02 AM
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While amateur equipment is capable of operating as you suggest, it is no
more likely that you commiting rape because you have the equipment.

Hams have a license to loose if they partake in such nonsense.

"SouthDakotaRadio" wrote in message
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In article , "Rodney"

writes:

Yes indeed! An "enterprising ham" (or anybody else) with a Yaesu Ft-2400,
FT-2500, or even the dual banders can clip a wire, desolder a jumper and

be
good to go up to and above 164 mhz.


164? That's nothin! Alinco handhelds go all the way to 174.


For instance. It is all too easy to modify one of these rigs to transmit

on
154, 155, or higher freqs. All one needs is an antenna that handles these
frequencies without causing the protection circuit to dump the radio. A

Rad
Shack discone is one such antenna....


Better yet: an antenna cut to resonance. Since 154Mhz is a popular

business
frequency, antennas designed to transmit here are inexpensive and

easy-to-find.


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Old January 24th 04, 03:05 PM
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In article , "W4JLE" w4jle(remove to
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While amateur equipment is capable of operating as you suggest, it is no
more likely that you commiting rape because you have the equipment.

Hams have a license to loose if they partake in such nonsense.


Are you telling me that it's unusual for hams to operate (illegaly)
out-of-band?

(Trying to stop choking from uncontrollable fits of laughter.)

Consider the number of hams who use their dual-banders on the FRS and GMRS
channels...or the number of hams who use their HF rigs on the CB band.

I would dare say that *most* hams partake in such behavior at least
occasionally.

Not condoning it, just stating that it does happen...and happens frequently.


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Old January 24th 04, 07:38 PM
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Likely some of the new no code types that can't give up there 11 meter ways.

Let me re-phrase, no REAL ham would do it.

"SouthDakotaRadio" wrote in message
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In article , "W4JLE" w4jle(remove to
writes:

While amateur equipment is capable of operating as you suggest, it is no
more likely that you commiting rape because you have the equipment.

Hams have a license to loose if they partake in such nonsense.


Are you telling me that it's unusual for hams to operate (illegaly)
out-of-band?

(Trying to stop choking from uncontrollable fits of laughter.)

Consider the number of hams who use their dual-banders on the FRS and GMRS
channels...or the number of hams who use their HF rigs on the CB band.

I would dare say that *most* hams partake in such behavior at least
occasionally.

Not condoning it, just stating that it does happen...and happens

frequently.




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Old January 25th 04, 02:23 AM
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Funny that - know of more than the odd "real" hams who use their amateur
gear on out of band frequencies - and yes they hold the VK equivalent of an
exra class licence, and I know of US amateurs (amongst many others) who have
come here to VK who have used their amateur gear on out of band
allocations - be it HF or VHF/UHF. I suggest that the licence class or
whether they have passed a CW test has absolutely no bearing on amateurs
behaviour or likelyhood to use amateur gear out of the allocated bands.





Matt

"W4JLE" w4jle(remove to wrote in message
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Likely some of the new no code types that can't give up there 11 meter

ways.

Let me re-phrase, no REAL ham would do it.

"SouthDakotaRadio" wrote in message
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In article , "W4JLE" w4jle(remove to
writes:

While amateur equipment is capable of operating as you suggest, it is

no
more likely that you commiting rape because you have the equipment.

Hams have a license to loose if they partake in such nonsense.


Are you telling me that it's unusual for hams to operate (illegaly)
out-of-band?

(Trying to stop choking from uncontrollable fits of laughter.)

Consider the number of hams who use their dual-banders on the FRS and

GMRS
channels...or the number of hams who use their HF rigs on the CB band.

I would dare say that *most* hams partake in such behavior at least
occasionally.

Not condoning it, just stating that it does happen...and happens

frequently.








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Old January 27th 04, 08:22 AM
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Likely some of the new no code types that can't give up there 11 meter ways.

you are wrong. These were REAL ham radio operators doing all of that higly
illegal stuff, both radio-related and non-radio related.

As I said, the ones I know about above happened about a decade or two decases
ago. (their highly illegal activities crossed from one decadee to the other.
the 80's and 90's and they are probably still at it), and that was WAY before
the FCC ever passed the law that allows no-code ham radio operators.

so these ham radio operators that were involved in committing highly illegal
activities did indeed study the Morse Code requirements and learned it ( or
else they would never have gotten the ham radio liscences that they have).

These code-learned ham radio operators were involved in highly ilegal
activities, both radio-related activities and non-radio related activities.

and these criminals got away with it!!!!!!!!!!! Just because they knew a lot
of influential people around here since they used their ham liscenes to these
people as "proof that they're not criminnals since no hams would cxommit any
criminal act and all hams always do only what is legal". whooo-hooo!!! What a
laugh. I know MUCH better now.

By the way, I'm one of those who would take the no-code liscence, but I always
try to stay on the legal side of the law, unlike those paarticual code-learned
hams who committed a BUNCH of HIGHLY illegal acts.

so that blows your theory of no-code ham operators being the kind of hamds who
would do that .

And it also blows your theory of no code-learnned hams would ever commit
illegal activities.


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Old January 27th 04, 08:11 AM
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I would dare say that *most* hams partake in such behavior at least
occasionally.


that is sooooo true. I know of a few particular ham radio operators in my
area who are guilty of being involved in highly illegal activities and they got
away with it!!!!

and not just radio related stuff, but other highly ilegal activities not having
anything to do with radio. And they got away with it because they were ham
radio operators and knew influential people in the local courts around here and
knew other influential people around the county here also.

The law may say that judges have to step down when they have a "conflict of
interest". However, in real life, it doesn't happen that way. In real life,
the judges with "conflict of interest" stay on the bench in the cases and abuse
their power.

The illegal activities that I know they were guilty of happened about a decade
ago.

and now I know all too well about how judges abuse their power and let
criminals get away with stuff and that judges with "conflict of interest" don't
really step down from cases like the law says they're supposed to.

I've learned all too well from those hams doing that. I have always tried to
sttay on the legal side of the law. Those particular hams stayed on the
illegal side of the law, and got away with it!!!!!

and are still operating as ham radio operators.


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Old January 27th 04, 07:59 AM
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I haven't really listened to 900 MHZ yet, although I did take a quick look up
there as I was interested in fast-scaan ham tv, (pun not intended) none of
which I saw on any of the ham bands that my scanner is capaable of picking up.
400 MHZ, 90 MHZ, 1240-1300 MHZ, and 2.4 GHZ.

I read that the 400 MHZ band is the most popular to see ham tv, but I also read
that ham tv and ham radio transmissions are not allowed in the 400 MHZ ham band
in my area of the U.S. Well, at least not a portion of it.

Then after learning how to read sensitivity specs, I decided to start my
scanning on the lower frequencies and go up from there, for my most recent
scanner.

which I will probably start seriously monitoring pretty soon.

I've only just fooled around with it so far, with occasional light monitoring
of various things.


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