Likely some of the new no code types that can't give up there 11 meter ways.

you are wrong. These were REAL ham radio operators doing all of that higly
illegal stuff, both radio-related and non-radio related.

As I said, the ones I know about above happened about a decade or two decases
ago. (their highly illegal activities crossed from one decadee to the other.
the 80's and 90's and they are probably still at it), and that was WAY before
the FCC ever passed the law that allows no-code ham radio operators.

so these ham radio operators that were involved in committing highly illegal
activities did indeed study the Morse Code requirements and learned it ( or
else they would never have gotten the ham radio liscences that they have).

These code-learned ham radio operators were involved in highly ilegal
activities, both radio-related activities and non-radio related activities.

and these criminals got away with it!!!!!!!!!!! Just because they knew a lot
of influential people around here since they used their ham liscenes to these
people as "proof that they're not criminnals since no hams would cxommit any
criminal act and all hams always do only what is legal". whooo-hooo!!! What a
laugh. I know MUCH better now.

By the way, I'm one of those who would take the no-code liscence, but I always
try to stay on the legal side of the law, unlike those paarticual code-learned
hams who committed a BUNCH of HIGHLY illegal acts.

so that blows your theory of no-code ham operators being the kind of hamds who
would do that .

And it also blows your theory of no code-learnned hams would ever commit
illegal activities.