"Jaddled Burf-Whummy" wrote in message
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Yeah, it's self explanatory, so get a life, like that other guy said ...
r yu stewped?


"T-bone" wrote in message
9.130...
"Lou" wrote in
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Hi Gang,

I know this isn't a "legal" group, but hear me out. We all know - there
Seems to me that the phrase 'mobile use of a scanner is prohibited' is
pretty self explanitory.



Such intelligent answers.... It is NOT self explanatory, as there are
usually exceptions to any law. Get a life? Stewped? WOW, I'm impressed. Such
intelligent answers. How about providing some factual answers. Must be bus
drivers like the one this person ran into. Scanners are sold to be used. So,
tell me, if YOU with the intelligent responses are "truly" scanner users -
were told you weren't allowed to be in possession of your scanners in
certain situations, you would just say "Oh, OK!" and give up? I doubt it.
Thanks for the help thus far. Sure hope you're as fortunate when you need
it.

L.

Such intelligent answers.... It is NOT self explanatory, as there are
usually exceptions to any law. Get a life? Stewped? WOW, I'm impressed.
Such intelligent answers. How about providing some factual answers. Must
be bus drivers like the one this person ran into. Scanners are sold to
be used. So, tell me, if YOU with the intelligent responses are "truly"
scanner users - were told you weren't allowed to be in possession of
your scanners in certain situations, you would just say "Oh, OK!" and
give up? I doubt it. Thanks for the help thus far. Sure hope you're as
fortunate when you need it.

L.



All righty - I'll try to break it down for ya.
Busses are considered a form of mobile transportation so .....
If you use a scanner on a bus, you are using a scanner mobily, which is
prohibited by law.
You can argue technicalities until your blue in the face, but that won't stop
a judge who goes by the letter of the law from confiscating your scanner, and
imposing fines.
And yes, the same would apply to a taxi,trolly or train - And even a bicycle.

"T-bone" wrote in message
9.130...


Such intelligent answers.... It is NOT self explanatory, as there are
usually exceptions to any law. Get a life? Stewped? WOW, I'm impressed.
Such intelligent answers. How about providing some factual answers. Must
be bus drivers like the one this person ran into. Scanners are sold to
be used. So, tell me, if YOU with the intelligent responses are "truly"
scanner users - were told you weren't allowed to be in possession of
your scanners in certain situations, you would just say "Oh, OK!" and
give up? I doubt it. Thanks for the help thus far. Sure hope you're as
fortunate when you need it.

L.



All righty - I'll try to break it down for ya.
Busses are considered a form of mobile transportation so .....
If you use a scanner on a bus, you are using a scanner mobily, which is
prohibited by law.
You can argue technicalities until your blue in the face, but that won't
stop
a judge who goes by the letter of the law from confiscating your scanner,
and
imposing fines.
And yes, the same would apply to a taxi,trolly or train - And even a
bicycle.

Ah, but ya see, in PA there is NO scanner law that I'm aware of - unless
one is in the works which again, I've not heard of... SO - I'm looking to
see if there are any "transit" issues relating to scanner use onboard - not
counting the fact headphones must be used to prevent disturbing others. So,
that statement doesn't apply to ALL. So, no - you've not broken anything
down. This driver made a statement, I want to see what others have
experienced to either back his claim or put a hole in his balloon in so far
as his claims (not for evidence). I still say he was off base. Airlines
don't allow them. I know that - due to RF issues mainly. Buses do not have
that issue. There are no "Transit" laws that I'm aware of that prohibits
scanner use (even with headphones) which is what I was asking if others had
similar problems - in states with or without Mobile Scanner laws. I can
understand they stop cars/trucks to check things out. Rarely if ever have I
heard of a bus being stopped to check all "passengers" for such items.
Perhaps you can argue the states with the Mobile Scanning laws, it would
apply.. Cool, I can accept that. But in those with no laws, sorry - it
doesn't wash. They have no basis for which to make such policies.

L.

"Lou" wrote in
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"T-bone" wrote in message
9.130...


Such intelligent answers.... It is NOT self explanatory, as there are
usually exceptions to any law. Get a life? Stewped? WOW, I'm
impressed. Such intelligent answers. How about providing some factual
answers. Must be bus drivers like the one this person ran into.
Scanners are sold to be used. So, tell me, if YOU with the intelligent
responses are "truly" scanner users - were told you weren't allowed to
be in possession of your scanners in certain situations, you would
just say "Oh, OK!" and give up? I doubt it. Thanks for the help thus
far. Sure hope you're as fortunate when you need it.

L.



All righty - I'll try to break it down for ya.
Busses are considered a form of mobile transportation so .....
If you use a scanner on a bus, you are using a scanner mobily, which is
prohibited by law.
You can argue technicalities until your blue in the face, but that
won't stop
a judge who goes by the letter of the law from confiscating your
scanner, and
imposing fines.
And yes, the same would apply to a taxi,trolly or train - And even a
bicycle.

Ah, but ya see, in PA there is NO scanner law that I'm aware of -
unless
one is in the works which again, I've not heard of... SO - I'm looking
to see if there are any "transit" issues relating to scanner use onboard
- not counting the fact headphones must be used to prevent disturbing
others. So, that statement doesn't apply to ALL. So, no - you've not
broken anything down. This driver made a statement, I want to see what
others have experienced to either back his claim or put a hole in his
balloon in so far as his claims (not for evidence). I still say he was
off base. Airlines don't allow them. I know that - due to RF issues
mainly. Buses do not have that issue. There are no "Transit" laws that
I'm aware of that prohibits scanner use (even with headphones) which is
what I was asking if others had similar problems - in states with or
without Mobile Scanner laws. I can understand they stop cars/trucks to
check things out. Rarely if ever have I heard of a bus being stopped to
check all "passengers" for such items. Perhaps you can argue the states
with the Mobile Scanning laws, it would apply.. Cool, I can accept that.
But in those with no laws, sorry - it doesn't wash. They have no basis
for which to make such policies.

L.

Well then if mobile use of a scanner is not illegal in PA, your likely in
the clear.
I have no interest in scanning laws in PA.
I'd suggest you call the transit authority to get a definitive answer.

"T-bone" wrote in message
9.130...
"Lou" wrote in
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"T-bone" wrote in message
9.130...


Well then if mobile use of a scanner is not illegal in PA, your likely in
the clear.
I have no interest in scanning laws in PA.
I'd suggest you call the transit authority to get a definitive answer.


With all due respect, now we're getting some where. Still puts me back to
the original question. I probably should have asked it in this way before -
Has anyone else had similar problems aboard transit systems - with or
without the applicable scanner laws. One or two have already given their
experiences. I guess those who do not reply on mass transit could really
give a **** less what the rules/laws/policies may be. Strange. I've seen
this issue debated up the ass about airplanes, but never buses or such.

"Lou" wrote in
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I guess those who do not reply on mass transit
could really give a **** less what the rules/laws/policies may be.
Strange. I've seen this issue debated up the ass about airplanes, but
never buses or such.

I suspect theres not a whole lot of scannists who use mass transit much, and
don't scan when they do.
Could be wrong. Here in the Detroit area, there is no mass transit as such.
I'm thinking, barring an occasional crash or wino on the tracks, such
monitoring would be about one step above taco belle drive through monitoring
anyways.

"T-bone" wrote in message
9.130...
"Lou" wrote in
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I guess those who do not reply on mass transit
could really give a **** less what the rules/laws/policies may be.
Strange. I've seen this issue debated up the ass about airplanes, but
never buses or such.

I suspect theres not a whole lot of scannists who use mass transit much,
and
don't scan when they do.
Could be wrong. Here in the Detroit area, there is no mass transit as
such.
I'm thinking, barring an occasional crash or wino on the tracks, such
monitoring would be about one step above taco belle drive through
monitoring
anyways.




WOW....... We always learn something new. I would have thought Detroit being
the "busy" place it is to be, would have mass transit. Hmmmm.......

Thanks!

L.

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:59:12 GMT, "T-bone" wrote:

"Lou" wrote in
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"T-bone" wrote in message
9.130...


Such intelligent answers.... It is NOT self explanatory, as there are
usually exceptions to any law. Get a life? Stewped? WOW, I'm
impressed. Such intelligent answers. How about providing some factual
answers. Must be bus drivers like the one this person ran into.
Scanners are sold to be used. So, tell me, if YOU with the intelligent
responses are "truly" scanner users - were told you weren't allowed to
be in possession of your scanners in certain situations, you would
just say "Oh, OK!" and give up? I doubt it. Thanks for the help thus
far. Sure hope you're as fortunate when you need it.

L.



All righty - I'll try to break it down for ya.
Busses are considered a form of mobile transportation so .....
If you use a scanner on a bus, you are using a scanner mobily, which is
prohibited by law.
You can argue technicalities until your blue in the face, but that
won't stop
a judge who goes by the letter of the law from confiscating your
scanner, and
imposing fines.
And yes, the same would apply to a taxi,trolly or train - And even a
bicycle.

Ah, but ya see, in PA there is NO scanner law that I'm aware of -
unless
one is in the works which again, I've not heard of... SO - I'm looking
to see if there are any "transit" issues relating to scanner use onboard
- not counting the fact headphones must be used to prevent disturbing
others. So, that statement doesn't apply to ALL. So, no - you've not
broken anything down. This driver made a statement, I want to see what
others have experienced to either back his claim or put a hole in his
balloon in so far as his claims (not for evidence). I still say he was
off base. Airlines don't allow them. I know that - due to RF issues
mainly. Buses do not have that issue. There are no "Transit" laws that
I'm aware of that prohibits scanner use (even with headphones) which is
what I was asking if others had similar problems - in states with or
without Mobile Scanner laws. I can understand they stop cars/trucks to
check things out. Rarely if ever have I heard of a bus being stopped to
check all "passengers" for such items. Perhaps you can argue the states
with the Mobile Scanning laws, it would apply.. Cool, I can accept that.
But in those with no laws, sorry - it doesn't wash. They have no basis
for which to make such policies.

L.

Well then if mobile use of a scanner is not illegal in PA, your likely in
the clear.
I have no interest in scanning laws in PA.
I'd suggest you call the transit authority to get a definitive answer.


They're the last ones to call for an authorititive answer --
they'll tell you what they want you to do.

While policy does not have the force of law -- as in they
might not be able to have you arrested and tried for it -- they might
be able to deny you the use of the transit facility.

Many places have policies which will not stand up to a legal
challenge. Most obvious is the kind of thing where a drycleaner posts
a sign saying they can sell yor unclaimed garments for coste after
thirty days. In fact, most jurisdictions specify ninety days. If they
sell your stuff before ninety days, you can sue them for the value of
the clothes and prevail. They will point to the sign just to scare you
from making a claim, hence the name "in terrorem" clause.

wrote in :

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:59:12 GMT, "T-bone" wrote:

"Lou" wrote in
.to.verio.net:


"T-bone" wrote in message
9.130...


Such intelligent answers.... It is NOT self explanatory, as there
are usually exceptions to any law. Get a life? Stewped? WOW, I'm
impressed. Such intelligent answers. How about providing some
factual answers. Must be bus drivers like the one this person ran
into. Scanners are sold to be used. So, tell me, if YOU with the
intelligent responses are "truly" scanner users - were told you
weren't allowed to be in possession of your scanners in certain
situations, you would just say "Oh, OK!" and give up? I doubt it.
Thanks for the help thus far. Sure hope you're as fortunate when you
need it.

L.



All righty - I'll try to break it down for ya.
Busses are considered a form of mobile transportation so .....
If you use a scanner on a bus, you are using a scanner mobily, which
is prohibited by law.
You can argue technicalities until your blue in the face, but that
won't stop
a judge who goes by the letter of the law from confiscating your
scanner, and
imposing fines.
And yes, the same would apply to a taxi,trolly or train - And even a
bicycle.

Ah, but ya see, in PA there is NO scanner law that I'm aware of -
unless
one is in the works which again, I've not heard of... SO - I'm looking
to see if there are any "transit" issues relating to scanner use
onboard - not counting the fact headphones must be used to prevent
disturbing others. So, that statement doesn't apply to ALL. So, no -
you've not broken anything down. This driver made a statement, I want
to see what others have experienced to either back his claim or put a
hole in his balloon in so far as his claims (not for evidence). I
still say he was off base. Airlines don't allow them. I know that -
due to RF issues mainly. Buses do not have that issue. There are no
"Transit" laws that I'm aware of that prohibits scanner use (even with
headphones) which is what I was asking if others had similar problems
- in states with or without Mobile Scanner laws. I can understand they
stop cars/trucks to check things out. Rarely if ever have I heard of a
bus being stopped to check all "passengers" for such items. Perhaps
you can argue the states with the Mobile Scanning laws, it would
apply.. Cool, I can accept that. But in those with no laws, sorry - it
doesn't wash. They have no basis for which to make such policies.

L.

Well then if mobile use of a scanner is not illegal in PA, your likely
in the clear.
I have no interest in scanning laws in PA.
I'd suggest you call the transit authority to get a definitive answer.


They're the last ones to call for an authorititive answer --
they'll tell you what they want you to do.

While policy does not have the force of law -- as in they
might not be able to have you arrested and tried for it -- they might
be able to deny you the use of the transit facility.

Many places have policies which will not stand up to a legal
challenge. Most obvious is the kind of thing where a drycleaner posts
a sign saying they can sell yor unclaimed garments for coste after
thirty days. In fact, most jurisdictions specify ninety days. If they
sell your stuff before ninety days, you can sue them for the value of
the clothes and prevail. They will point to the sign just to scare you
from making a claim, hence the name "in terrorem" clause.



Lol Ok - I just now figured out how to make a profit off of my soiled
undies.