"Lou" wrote in message
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Hi Gang,

I know this isn't a "legal" group, but hear me out. We all know - there
have been laws passed in various states as to where scanners are allowed
and not allowed, particularly in motor vehicles - be they Ham operators or
not - unless involved with Police/Fire/EMS (you get the drift). So far as
I am still aware, PA is not included in any such laws. BUT - for the sake
of this question, I'm going to include PA in part of the question.... SO
here goes... and you - where ever you are, can tell me what the laws are
in your area as they may pertain to this subject so as not to drag this
out more than need be - as we know the scanner law question has been
beaten down many times in here in the past.
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Though states may not allow "Mobile" scanners... do they have in those
same laws or any other laws, any thing that remotely relates to a "hand
held" scanner being carried - ESPECIALLY - on board say - a "Transit" bus?
Now, I know that "transit buses" have signs and perhaps a policy - often
loosely enforced, as to having radios and the like (CD players and such)
played so as not to disturb other passengers. But is there any "LAWS"
keeping a person from carrying a "scanner" on board a bus? Oh, and I'm not
referring to any laws which may cover if a scanner were to be used in the
course of a crime being committed. I'm talking having one - in general.

I had a person tell me just today, a bus operator told them "A scanner was
illegal aboard a bus." The bus in question was in PA (the driver didn't
refer to PA specifically though), and I asked the party if they had
headphones on - they said yes. I know that most if not all the time, IF
headphones are worn, the radio or whatever is not brought into question. I
personally think the driver stepped WAY out of his league of knowledge.

Your thoughts?????

Thanks,

Lou


Usenet is a real poor place to ask any kind of legal question. You, as you
have seen, can get all kinds of answers. If you rely on the responses here,
get in trouble with the law, telling some judge you "read it on the net"
will get you nothing.
If the state you are in has laws regarding scanners, I would have to
assume the law is available on line?
As to the Public bus, if you find there is no law against them, the easy
way would seem to be not let the driver know you have a scanner. If the guy
is using headphones who is going to know what he is listening to?
--
The two most abundant things in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity.
(not necessarily in that order)

"Alex Clayton" wrote in message news:so7Md.4179$
Usenet is a real poor place to ask any kind of legal question. You, as you
have seen, can get all kinds of answers. If you rely on the responses
here, get in trouble with the law, telling some judge you "read it on the
net" will get you nothing.

No it won't.

He'll get to see the judge roll his eyes as if saying "how stupid can this
guy be?"

If the state you are in has laws regarding scanners, I would have to
assume the law is available on line?

All statutes are available on line, through the state's gummint website.
Just have to look

As to the Public bus, if you find there is no law against them, the easy
way would seem to be not let the driver know you have a scanner. If the
guy is using headphones who is going to know what he is listening to?

I take mine with my on the rapid transit train with headphones. No trouble
at all. Listen in on transit frequencies.

"Paul Keenleyside" wrote in message
news:hs7Md.195919$KO5.12735@clgrps13...

As to the Public bus, if you find there is no law against them, the easy
way would seem to be not let the driver know you have a scanner. If the
guy is using headphones who is going to know what he is listening to?

I take mine with my on the rapid transit train with headphones. No trouble
at all. Listen in on transit frequencies.


THANK YOU, this is the type of reference I was looking for - to see if
others faced similar situations, hurdles - with regard to using scanners
onboard transit.

"Alex Clayton" wrote in message
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"Lou" wrote in message
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Usenet is a real poor place to ask any kind of legal question. You, as you
have seen, can get all kinds of answers. If you rely on the responses
here, get in trouble with the law, telling some judge you "read it on the
net" will get you nothing.
If the state you are in has laws regarding scanners, I would have to
assume the law is available on line?
As to the Public bus, if you find there is no law against them, the easy
way would seem to be not let the driver know you have a scanner. If the
guy is using headphones who is going to know what he is listening to?
--
The two most abundant things in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity.
(not necessarily in that order)




I understand and certainly agree that Usenet is not a "legal" authority.
What I was attempting to do, was get a feel for what is out there as to
laws - since it would seem to me the hundreds if not thousands of users
would have by now - tapped into their state laws in interest and may have
weighed in with anything in comparison OR in any instances similar. Maybe
even case history as to challenges. Sorry I asked.........

"Lou" wrote in message
o.verio.net...

"Alex Clayton" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Lou" wrote in message
.verio.net...

Usenet is a real poor place to ask any kind of legal question. You, as
you have seen, can get all kinds of answers. If you rely on the responses
here, get in trouble with the law, telling some judge you "read it on the
net" will get you nothing.
If the state you are in has laws regarding scanners, I would have to
assume the law is available on line?
As to the Public bus, if you find there is no law against them, the easy
way would seem to be not let the driver know you have a scanner. If the
guy is using headphones who is going to know what he is listening to?
--
The two most abundant things in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity.
(not necessarily in that order)




I understand and certainly agree that Usenet is not a "legal" authority.
What I was attempting to do, was get a feel for what is out there as to
laws - since it would seem to me the hundreds if not thousands of users
would have by now - tapped into their state laws in interest and may have
weighed in with anything in comparison OR in any instances similar. Maybe
even case history as to challenges. Sorry I asked.........


You don't need to be sorry you asked. I was just warning not only you, but
anyone reading. Many people come to the "net" for the first time every day.
Many don't seem to understand what they read "may" have no basis in fact. I
well remember when I finally got my Father to get a PC. He had a few rather
humorous times with some of the stuff he was finding.
If someone posts a link to make your state's law easier to look up, great.
Just be careful of stories about "well I do this, and it's fine" kind of
things. For one, you don't know if the person really does, or if they are in
the same jurisdiction you are, or if they may be breaking the law, and may
not know it themselves. As I said if you break some law, end up in court,
and have only the "excuse" that you "read" it on the net, you will get no
where, no matter what "stories" you hear about people running rings around
the court.
As to some of the "stupid" responses you get, that's just Usenet. there
are always a lot of people here who got beat up all the time at school, so
they come here with their cape on ready to "kick some cyber ass", shrug.
You just have to wade through it, there is LOT'S of good info out there too.
Just be careful what you act on.
--
The two most abundant things in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity.
(not necessarily in that order)

"Alex Clayton" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Lou" wrote in message
o.verio.net...

"Alex Clayton" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Lou" wrote in message
.verio.net...

Usenet is a real poor place to ask any kind of legal question. You, as
you have seen, can get all kinds of answers. If you rely on the
responses here, get in trouble with the law, telling some judge you
"read it on the net" will get you nothing.
If the state you are in has laws regarding scanners, I would have to
assume the law is available on line?
As to the Public bus, if you find there is no law against them, the
easy way would seem to be not let the driver know you have a scanner. If
the guy is using headphones who is going to know what he is listening
to?
--
The two most abundant things in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity.
(not necessarily in that order)




I understand and certainly agree that Usenet is not a "legal" authority.
What I was attempting to do, was get a feel for what is out there as to
laws - since it would seem to me the hundreds if not thousands of users
would have by now - tapped into their state laws in interest and may have
weighed in with anything in comparison OR in any instances similar. Maybe
even case history as to challenges. Sorry I asked.........


You don't need to be sorry you asked. I was just warning not only you, but
anyone reading. Many people come to the "net" for the first time every
day. Many don't seem to understand what they read "may" have no basis in
fact. I well remember when I finally got my Father to get a PC. He had a
few rather humorous times with some of the stuff he was finding.
If someone posts a link to make your state's law easier to look up,
great. Just be careful of stories about "well I do this, and it's fine"
kind of things. For one, you don't know if the person really does, or if
they are in the same jurisdiction you are, or if they may be breaking the
law, and may not know it themselves. As I said if you break some law, end
up in court, and have only the "excuse" that you "read" it on the net, you
will get no where, no matter what "stories" you hear about people running
rings around the court.
As to some of the "stupid" responses you get, that's just Usenet. there
are always a lot of people here who got beat up all the time at school, so
they come here with their cape on ready to "kick some cyber ass", shrug.
You just have to wade through it, there is LOT'S of good info out there
too. Just be careful what you act on.
--
The two most abundant things in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity.
(not necessarily in that order)


I'm not new... not by a long shot. Was just trying to get feelers for anyone
who may have experienced this sort of situation and so on. Trust me, this
doesn't even rate as my last resort for "legal" info or evidence. Yes,
you're so right, there is lots of good info to be had. AND just as often,
many not so helpful answers to be had. I could look up PA law without a
doubt. Was more so interested in any "transit" related situations around the
nation - even in the states where no "scanner" law applies. Any "hidden"
policies which the net may not produce.

L.