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"Al Klein" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:43:16 GMT, said in rec.radio.scanner: Nice that they want you to be professional _sounding_, but real professionals would clear up this "my way" childishness to avoid confusion or disaster in a real emergency where multiple agencies were thrown together. And you've been a professional dispatcher for how long? Not to mention how many multi-jurisdictional incidents has he worked? Sounds like all hat and no cattle, as we say here in the southwest. A GOOD dispatcher adapts to the circumstances. If you can't handle changing circumstances, let somebody who can do the job. Been there, done that! A former PD dispatcher |
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On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 01:00:11 -0500, "M." said in
rec.radio.scanner: Not to mention how many multi-jurisdictional incidents has he worked? Or how many years has he spent communicating with more than one agency (and more than one set of codes) on a daily basis? Sounds like all hat and no cattle, as we say here in the southwest. A GOOD dispatcher adapts to the circumstances. If you can't handle changing circumstances, let somebody who can do the job. Yep. I tell my wife about the bad accident with a few seriously injured people (even though she's picked up most of the codes by now, just hearing me on the cell phone), my OTJ friends in the city about the bad 10-53/54 and my friends out here about the 10-10 with SPI. And if I have to talk to a fire department dispatcher I speak English. Come on - we have 5 year old kids who are multi-lingual. Adults can't speak more than one "language"? Been there, done that! The 'gummint should leave the decisions to the people who actually do the job. At least in this case they finally got it right. Someone must have been on vacation. A former PD dispatcher "Bloody fingers" like mine. |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 02:18:14 -0400, Al Klein
wrote: The 'gummint should leave the decisions to the people who actually do the job. At least in this case they finally got it right. Someone must have been on vacation. We saw how well comms went on 9/11, even with all the "professionals" supposedly spwaking the same language. But "the people who actually do the job" ouldn't even work each other on the same frequencies. |
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:47:18 -0400, Al Klein
wrote: On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:58:50 GMT, said in rec.radio.scanner: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 02:18:14 -0400, Al Klein wrote: The 'gummint should leave the decisions to the people who actually do the job. At least in this case they finally got it right. Someone must have been on vacation. We saw how well comms went on 9/11, even with all the "professionals" supposedly spwaking the same language. Those political appointees couldn't get a paper bag to interop with a bonfire to produce ash. Cops and firemen aren't politicaal appointees. But "the people who actually do the job" ouldn't even work each other on the same frequencies. First, NYPD operates on 450 MHz. FDNY operates on 150 MHz. The equipment isn't cross-compatible. My point exactly -- they had no common frequencies with which to coordinate. Second, the people who "do the job" of specifying the systems for NYC are professional politicians, not professional communicators. Please don't get me started - I spent 12 years pulling my hair out over their supposed "expertise", buying systems that covered 25% of the area the vendors promised coverage for, or portables that were "state of the art" - in everything but providing communications. Ditto. Now NYS is putting in a MA/Com system for statewide interop. I guess the question of who's going to pay for all the additional equipment that every LE and FD in the state will have to buy (and then leave to rot on a shelf unless it's ever needed, since very few systems in NYS are MA/Com) isn't something that concerns them. And the fact that, in the mountainous areas, the state couldn't afford enough coverage on 850 MHz. There may be some states that have people on the ground making the decisions, but the federal government and New York (both city and state) aren't among them. Michael Brown, anyone? |
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:19:16 GMT, said in
rec.radio.scanner: On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:47:18 -0400, Al Klein wrote: On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:58:50 GMT, said in rec.radio.scanner: We saw how well comms went on 9/11, even with all the "professionals" supposedly spwaking the same language. Those political appointees couldn't get a paper bag to interop with a bonfire to produce ash. Cops and firemen aren't politicaal appointees. Cops and firemen have no say in the design of the radio systems in NYC - they're just the professionals who have to use them. But "the people who actually do the job" ouldn't even work each other on the same frequencies. First, NYPD operates on 450 MHz. FDNY operates on 150 MHz. The equipment isn't cross-compatible. My point exactly -- they had no common frequencies with which to coordinate. Because the people on the ground have no say in how the systems are set up. You're proving my point. |
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:16:21 -0400, Al Klein
wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:43:16 GMT, said in rec.radio.scanner: Nice that they want you to be professional _sounding_, but real professionals would clear up this "my way" childishness to avoid confusion or disaster in a real emergency where multiple agencies were thrown together. And you've been a professional dispatcher for how long? A rescue team with each member speaking his own language is a disaster in waiting.. Or did your people learn nothing from the screwed-up comms on 9/11. |
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:55:59 GMT, said in
rec.radio.scanner: On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:16:21 -0400, Al Klein wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:43:16 GMT, said in rec.radio.scanner: Nice that they want you to be professional _sounding_, but real professionals would clear up this "my way" childishness to avoid confusion or disaster in a real emergency where multiple agencies were thrown together. And you've been a professional dispatcher for how long? A rescue team with each member speaking his own language is a disaster in waiting.. Or did your people learn nothing from the screwed-up comms on 9/11. You quite obviously know nothing about the situation in NYC. But you've evaded the question yet again - HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A PROFESSIONAL DISPATCHER? You won't answer that one, will you? Because you aren't one - you just know how to make things up and hope they sound good to people who don't know the actual situation. Surprise! You've been found out. |
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:49:49 -0400, Al Klein
wrote: On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:55:59 GMT, said in rec.radio.scanner: On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:16:21 -0400, Al Klein wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:43:16 GMT, said in rec.radio.scanner: Nice that they want you to be professional _sounding_, but real professionals would clear up this "my way" childishness to avoid confusion or disaster in a real emergency where multiple agencies were thrown together. And you've been a professional dispatcher for how long? A rescue team with each member speaking his own language is a disaster in waiting.. Or did your people learn nothing from the screwed-up comms on 9/11. You quite obviously know nothing about the situation in NYC. But you've evaded the question yet again - HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A PROFESSIONAL DISPATCHER? You won't answer that one, will you? Because you aren't one - you just know how to make things up and hope they sound good to people who don't know the actual situation. Surprise! You've been found out. No, I've found out that the alleged professionals can't coordinate a toilet seat and its lid. And those who think that failure to standardize on a single protocol (the name of the thread, right?) are failing in their responsibilities. |
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