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L. August 13th 06 01:17 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
t...
L. wrote:
I have a ton of books in my reach too - so whats your point?


If you are ambitious enough to already possess the knowledge,
you don't need the books. I am too lazy to try to possess all
knowledge so I need the books. Not having to memorize all
knowledge frees up my mind for creative thought.

And as for "Hitler" claiming that - as you said about his admiration for
a brilliant lazy man - eh......... last I heard - the man was a fruit
cake, lost the war, cost thousands of lives, innocent ones at that - and
ended up committing suicide - WHAT A LOSER. And I would want to follow
his examples/principles - why?


The statements that I quoted were from a WWI German military
leader probably uttered while Hitler was still a private or
corporal. Why do you have to try to misrepresent what I said?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


OK, so maybe I misrepresented your quote "by accident" - big deal. HITLER
was still a loser as was/is ANY ONE who bought/buys into that STUPID
philosophy you spoke of. Pretty damned sad when you - speaking of ANYONE it
applies to - are too "lazy" to "learn". That is almost laughable. Creative
thinking - without knowledge? Surely you jest!

I'm done arguing with someone who is "too" lazy to "learn". I'd prefer to
talk to those who have "intelligence" to refer to - to stimulate the
conversation. Good luck in your monologue.

L.



Cecil Moore August 13th 06 01:22 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
 
Al Klein wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Laziness allows one to achieve a goal by the most efficient
route. Some famous German military leader said he would
lots rather have brilliant and lazy officers than ambitious
and stupid ones.


As I recall, he was also known as one of the most idiotic strategists
the species has ever produced. His "fame" didn't stop him from being
the almost single-handed reason his country lost its big war, did it?


This was a WWI German officer and I don't recall his name.
Why do you think he was an idiotic strategist? Why do you
think he single-handedly lost WWI? If you know so much about
him, what was his name?

Being both intelligent and ambitious doesn't appear on your radar?


The pride, lust, and greed usually accompanying ambition are
a good percentage of the seven deadly sins.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

an old friend August 13th 06 01:25 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

L. wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
t...
L. wrote:
I have a ton of books in my reach too - so whats your point?


If you are ambitious enough to already possess the knowledge,
you don't need the books. I am too lazy to try to possess all
knowledge so I need the books. Not having to memorize all
knowledge frees up my mind for creative thought.

And as for "Hitler" claiming that - as you said about his admiration for
a brilliant lazy man - eh......... last I heard - the man was a fruit
cake, lost the war, cost thousands of lives, innocent ones at that - and
ended up committing suicide - WHAT A LOSER. And I would want to follow
his examples/principles - why?


The statements that I quoted were from a WWI German military
leader probably uttered while Hitler was still a private or
corporal. Why do you have to try to misrepresent what I said?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


OK, so maybe I misrepresented your quote "by accident" - big deal.

it shows that you are ignorant of what you are tlaking about
HITLER
was still a loser as was/is ANY ONE who bought/buys into that STUPID
philosophy you spoke of.

base effort t atr anyone that believes something you don't as a Nazi
Pretty damned sad when you - speaking of ANYONE it
applies to - are too "lazy" to "learn". That is almost laughable. Creative
thinking - without knowledge? Surely you jest!

without occopiing ones mind by consdiering triva

I'm done arguing with someone who is "too" lazy to "learn". I'd prefer to
talk to those who have "intelligence" to refer to - to stimulate the
conversation. Good luck in your monologue.


hardly a monlogou why do you misrepresent the state of reality

L.



Cecil Moore August 13th 06 01:30 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
 
L. wrote:
THIS WHOLE FREAKING ARGUMENT IS - STUPID.


Yes, now you are getting it. I remember when hams like you
were trying to keep the single-sidewinders off the air in
the 1950's.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cecil Moore August 13th 06 01:37 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
 
L. wrote:
I'm done arguing with someone who is "too" lazy to "learn". I'd prefer to
talk to those who have "intelligence" to refer to - to stimulate the
conversation.


My MENSA membership number is 1006281.
What's your MENSA membership number?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Cecil Moore August 13th 06 01:48 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
 
Brenda Ann wrote:
Some
advanced appliance operators know enough to connect other peripheral devices
such as digital mode devices or power amplifiers, but do not know how these
devices work, nor how to construct such devices.


An amateur radio license is an entry level license. It is
not a university degree. When I obtained all amateur privileges
at the age of 15, I didn't know squat. All I had done is memorize
the ARRL License Manual. Six years later I had a EE degree. What
is wrong with learning the technical stuff after one obtains his
entry level license?

Do you know how to construct an IC-756PROII?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

[email protected] August 13th 06 02:45 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
wrote:


You denigrate the resistor code.


Not at all. It's a lot better than having the value printed on the
resistor in numbers. Even with MIL quality and transparent coatings,
the numbers on 1/8 watt resistors are kind of hard to read.


Even with the resistor color code, most of us *MEMORIZED*
a jingle like:
Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly
I believe the military used to teach their technicians
to *MEMORIZE* that jingle. Exactly how does one develop
the resistor color code from first principles?
--
73, Cecil
http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

How did capacitors escape getting color coded?


an old friend August 13th 06 02:58 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
wrote:

You denigrate the resistor code.

Not at all. It's a lot better than having the value printed on the
resistor in numbers. Even with MIL quality and transparent coatings,
the numbers on 1/8 watt resistors are kind of hard to read.


Even with the resistor color code, most of us *MEMORIZED*
a jingle like:
Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly
I believe the military used to teach their technicians
to *MEMORIZE* that jingle. Exactly how does one develop
the resistor color code from first principles?
--
73, Cecil
http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

How did capacitors escape getting color coded?

ssshhhhh bb don't ask such questions please


Cecil Moore August 13th 06 03:25 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
 
wrote:
How did capacitors escape getting color coded?


They didn't. I still have boxes of silver mica caps
that use essentially the same color code as resistors.
--
73, Cecil
http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

jawod August 13th 06 05:29 AM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
 
Cecil Moore wrote:
lid wrote:

It used to be that there weren't a set of questions with
corresponding answers - there was a syllabus from which the questions
were set. It took understanding of the syllabus to apply the formulae
that had been learnt to calculate the answer.



It is true that the 1950's License Manuals were not multiple
choice but the exams were. The License Manuals went like this:

Q: What is the unit of electrical resistance?

A: The unit of electrical resistance is the ohm.

The exam then had multiple choices, one of them being "ohm".

It is hard to understand how anyone could develop that correct
answer from first principles or formulas. I memorized the
correct answer and it still exists in my memory as something
I once memorized long before I ever knew there was a man named
Ohm after whom the unit of electrical resistance was named.

The difference between memorizing the question pool answers
from the 1950's License Manuals and memorizing the question
pool answers of today is just splitting hairs. I used exactly
the same memorizing techniques to ace the Extra exam in
2000 as I did to pass the Conditional exam in 1953.

Here here (!)
Cecil, I'm happy to agree with you.

Modern testing techniques are intended to be transparent. This is true
for FCC exams, Postal exams, any and all government qualification exams.
(And because of this, all qualifying exams in the private sector, as
well.)

It took a lot of litigation to get there. Government agencies had to
prove that their qualifying exams were directly linked to the specific
tasks required of the given position for which the individual was applying.

A Postal Carrier needn't know Pythagorus' theorum to deliver the mail.
I took the Postal Carrier exam 35 years ago and did not do well. I
wasn't good at sorting on a timed basis.

This notion of a "cheapening" of FCC requirements because the question
pool is open to the public is a red herring: transparency is the rule.
If you look at the question pool and study it, you will gain the
necessary expertise to pass the exam. This is not cheating, nor is it
short-circuiting the "REAL" ham radio "requirements" that some view as
sacrosanct.

I used ARRL manuals to pass the Extra Exam and I do not defer to anyone
in this regard. Does this make me a ham radio genius? Not AT ALL. Man,
I have SO MUCH to learn. This newsgroup is "potentially" very helpful!
For that, I give thanks.

You know, I love ham radio. I'm happy so many join the ranks each year.
If there still is a concern out there, be an Elmer and address it.

John
AB8O (yeah, I changed my call)


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