"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...


What HAS happened is that I have disagreed with you and dxAce, neither of
whom have presented a single piece of factual evidence to prove anything.
Please, go for it: name one single lie!

We have no reason to believe anything you say, given that you've
already lied about what your name real name is

Never. dxAce finds it funny that I have two given names and a maternal and
paternal surname (or surname and middle name in Anglo context) I have had
all 4 since I was baptised. No lie there... they are even on my driver
licence, and the deed to my house.

and what positions
you've held.

Never.

I seriously doubt that you've ever worked in radio, let
alone that you currently do. The poor and uninformed nature of your
arguments in most threads suggests that you are very much an outsider
to radio.

Very funny. You are more delusional than dxAce, who is simply and obsessive
troll.

Then why would the NAB have had me address 6 different conventions since
1982? Or the RAB? Or R&R?

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...


What HAS happened is that I have disagreed with you and dxAce, neither of
whom have presented a single piece of factual evidence to prove anything.
Please, go for it: name one single lie!

We have no reason to believe anything you say, given that you've
already lied about what your name real name is

Never. dxAce finds it funny that I have two given names and a maternal and
paternal surname (or surname and middle name in Anglo context) I have had
all 4 since I was baptised. No lie there... they are even on my driver
licence, and the deed to my house.


You were caught. Why not just admit it and have done with it?



and what positions
you've held.

Never.

You were.


I seriously doubt that you've ever worked in radio, let
alone that you currently do. The poor and uninformed nature of your
arguments in most threads suggests that you are very much an outsider
to radio.

Very funny. You are more delusional than dxAce, who is simply and obsessive
troll.

Then why would the NAB have had me address 6 different conventions since
1982? Or the RAB? Or R&R?

Perhaps because you deceived them about who you are and what positions
you've held?

Look, your trolling is a minor nuisance, but when you push things too
far and get caught, at least have the balls to fess up. You were nailed
about as badly as anyone ever has been. To keep denying the obvious
just makes you look like some kind of weirdo.

"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...


What HAS happened is that I have disagreed with you and dxAce, neither
of
whom have presented a single piece of factual evidence to prove
anything.
Please, go for it: name one single lie!

We have no reason to believe anything you say, given that you've
already lied about what your name real name is

Never. dxAce finds it funny that I have two given names and a maternal
and
paternal surname (or surname and middle name in Anglo context) I have had
all 4 since I was baptised. No lie there... they are even on my driver
licence, and the deed to my house.


You were caught. Why not just admit it and have done with it?

Caught with what, pray tell? Having a name?



and what positions
you've held.

Never.

You were.

Nope. Only in your mind. There was an error in the way my postion was listed
by the NAB for the 2004 San Diego convention, and nobody really cared except
you and dxAss.


I seriously doubt that you've ever worked in radio, let
alone that you currently do. The poor and uninformed nature of your
arguments in most threads suggests that you are very much an outsider
to radio.

Very funny. You are more delusional than dxAce, who is simply and
obsessive
troll.

Then why would the NAB have had me address 6 different conventions since
1982? Or the RAB? Or R&R?

Perhaps because you deceived them about who you are and what positions
you've held?

Oh, sure. I'm going to be on a panel with the programming heads of 5 of the
10 largest broadcasters in the US in front of about 2500 persons who are
also broadcasters and nobody is going to know?

Look, your trolling is a minor nuisance, but when you push things too
far and get caught, at least have the balls to fess up.

To what? Having a name? To the NAB making a small mistake?

If you wanted to verify, you could. But it is a lot more fun to have someone
to attack because you disagree with them, and ad hominems are a lot easier
to launch than a factual approach.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...


What HAS happened is that I have disagreed with you and dxAce, neither
of
whom have presented a single piece of factual evidence to prove
anything.
Please, go for it: name one single lie!

We have no reason to believe anything you say, given that you've
already lied about what your name real name is

Never. dxAce finds it funny that I have two given names and a maternal
and
paternal surname (or surname and middle name in Anglo context) I have had
all 4 since I was baptised. No lie there... they are even on my driver
licence, and the deed to my house.


You were caught. Why not just admit it and have done with it?

Caught with what, pray tell? Having a name?



and what positions
you've held.

Never.

You were.

Nope. Only in your mind. There was an error in the way my postion was listed
by the NAB for the 2004 San Diego convention, and nobody really cared except
you and dxAss.


Can't you hear how ridiculous that sounds? You're too old for this
nonsense, whoever you are.



I seriously doubt that you've ever worked in radio, let
alone that you currently do. The poor and uninformed nature of your
arguments in most threads suggests that you are very much an outsider
to radio.

Very funny. You are more delusional than dxAce, who is simply and
obsessive
troll.

Then why would the NAB have had me address 6 different conventions since
1982? Or the RAB? Or R&R?

Perhaps because you deceived them about who you are and what positions
you've held?

Oh, sure. I'm going to be on a panel with the programming heads of 5 of the
10 largest broadcasters in the US in front of about 2500 persons who are
also broadcasters and nobody is going to know?


I'm sure a lot of those people didn't know who you were. What should
they do in that case? Call the police?


Look, your trolling is a minor nuisance, but when you push things too
far and get caught, at least have the balls to fess up.

To what? Having a name? To the NAB making a small mistake?


Having a name is fine. It's lying about your name that's not cool.


If you wanted to verify, you could. But it is a lot more fun to have someone
to attack because you disagree with them, and ad hominems are a lot easier
to launch than a factual approach.

Apparently it's a lot more fun to go 'fibbing' on the internet and
lying about your true identify. Though I must say, it's hard for me to
see the fun in it, especially for an adult man.

"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...

Nope. Only in your mind. There was an error in the way my postion was
listed
by the NAB for the 2004 San Diego convention, and nobody really cared
except
you and dxAss.

Can't you hear how ridiculous that sounds? You're too old for this
nonsense, whoever you are.

It is ridiculous that you don't recognize it for what it is, a simple
mistake. I can point out spelling errors and mistakes in nearly every NAB
program... when they do a convention for tens of thousands of people, there
will be a coupple of gaffs.

Oh, sure. I'm going to be on a panel with the programming heads of 5 of
the
10 largest broadcasters in the US in front of about 2500 persons who are
also broadcasters and nobody is going to know?

I'm sure a lot of those people didn't know who you were.

Most of them did. They read Inside Radio, they read Radio Ink (#2 Major
Market PD of the Year a few years back in their industry poll) and RBR and
R&R and so on.

Tell you what: Call Tom Tyler, editor of Inside Radio, and ask him. Or call
Owen Charlebois, President of Arbitron. Or Mark Mays or Randall Mays of
Clear Channel. Ask any of them. Go ahead.


Look, your trolling is a minor nuisance, but when you push things too
far and get caught, at least have the balls to fess up.

To what? Having a name? To the NAB making a small mistake?


Having a name is fine. It's lying about your name that's not cool.

Never did. I use several variants, with and without middle name and second
given name, as do most people. William Ferdinad Barkley, III is Bill to
friends, William F. Barkley on his busines card, and the full thing on legal
papers. All depends on the venue. Same name, differnt extensions.


If you wanted to verify, you could. But it is a lot more fun to have
someone
to attack because you disagree with them, and ad hominems are a lot
easier
to launch than a factual approach.

Apparently it's a lot more fun to go 'fibbing' on the internet and
lying about your true identify. Though I must say, it's hard for me to
see the fun in it, especially for an adult man.

Yet you could verify this all... I even gave you names... but you won't. It
is more fun to be in denial, and use your lies to try to invalidate the
point that HD is here, like it or not.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...

Nope. Only in your mind. There was an error in the way my postion was
listed
by the NAB for the 2004 San Diego convention, and nobody really cared
except
you and dxAss.

Can't you hear how ridiculous that sounds? You're too old for this
nonsense, whoever you are.

It is ridiculous that you don't recognize it for what it is, a simple
mistake. I can point out spelling errors and mistakes in nearly every NAB
program... when they do a convention for tens of thousands of people, there
will be a coupple of gaffs.

All I can say is, you must have a thick skin to stand up and humiliate
yourself like this in front of the readers of this group.


Oh, sure. I'm going to be on a panel with the programming heads of 5 of
the
10 largest broadcasters in the US in front of about 2500 persons who are
also broadcasters and nobody is going to know?

I'm sure a lot of those people didn't know who you were.

Most of them did. They read Inside Radio, they read Radio Ink (#2 Major
Market PD of the Year a few years back in their industry poll) and RBR and
R&R and so on.

Uh huh....so you say....


Tell you what: Call Tom Tyler, editor of Inside Radio, and ask him. Or call
Owen Charlebois, President of Arbitron. Or Mark Mays or Randall Mays of
Clear Channel. Ask any of them. Go ahead.


The question is, if I didn't call a few people whom you have hand
picked, what would they say? Don't treat me like a fool. This is the
oldest, most transparent trick in the book.




Look, your trolling is a minor nuisance, but when you push things too
far and get caught, at least have the balls to fess up.

To what? Having a name? To the NAB making a small mistake?


Having a name is fine. It's lying about your name that's not cool.

Never did. I use several variants, with and without middle name and second
given name, as do most people. William Ferdinad Barkley, III is Bill to
friends, William F. Barkley on his busines card, and the full thing on legal
papers. All depends on the venue. Same name, differnt extensions.

Yes, it all depends on the venue. If it's a venue you wish to lie in,
then you use one name. If it's a venue you wish to tell the truth in,
then you use another.



If you wanted to verify, you could. But it is a lot more fun to have
someone
to attack because you disagree with them, and ad hominems are a lot
easier
to launch than a factual approach.

Apparently it's a lot more fun to go 'fibbing' on the internet and
lying about your true identify. Though I must say, it's hard for me to
see the fun in it, especially for an adult man.

Yet you could verify this all... I even gave you names... but you won't. It
is more fun to be in denial, and use your lies to try to invalidate the
point that HD is here, like it or not.

It's far, far too late for you to attempt to implement this kind of
damage control. You've been caught too many times for this to work.
It's like putting a bandaid on decapitation.

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:

It is ridiculous that you don't recognize it for what it is, a simple
mistake. I can point out spelling errors and mistakes in nearly every NAB
program... when they do a convention for tens of thousands of people,
there
will be a coupple of gaffs.

All I can say is, you must have a thick skin to stand up and humiliate
yourself like this in front of the readers of this group.

Actually, I enjoy making you look foolish. You did not, of course, dare to
actually check the data.

This is, perversely perhaps, a major entertainment.

I'm sure a lot of those people didn't know who you were.

Most of them did. They read Inside Radio, they read Radio Ink (#2 Major
Market PD of the Year a few years back in their industry poll) and RBR
and
R&R and so on.

Uh huh....so you say....

http://www.radioink.com/listingsEntr...68995&PT=blank for a reference
in Radio Ink.
http://www.davidgleason.com/1998_Radio_Ink.htm for the Radio Ink award.
http://www.davidgleason.com/1970-1972-E.htm has multiple pictures of me
going back to when I was a GM for Mooney Broadcasting (WKGN, WMAK, WBSR,
etc.)

Tell you what: Call Tom Tyler, editor of Inside Radio, and ask him. Or
call
Owen Charlebois, President of Arbitron. Or Mark Mays or Randall Mays of
Clear Channel. Ask any of them. Go ahead.

The question is, if I didn't call a few people whom you have hand
picked, what would they say? Don't treat me like a fool. This is the
oldest, most transparent trick in the book.

The President of Arbitron? The COO and CFO of Clear Channel? Those are about
the biggest figures in our insutry, and not known for lying.

Never did. I use several variants, with and without middle name and
second
given name, as do most people. William Ferdinad Barkley, III is Bill to
friends, William F. Barkley on his busines card, and the full thing on
legal
papers. All depends on the venue. Same name, differnt extensions.

Yes, it all depends on the venue. If it's a venue you wish to lie in,
then you use one name. If it's a venue you wish to tell the truth in,
then you use another.

All are parts of the same name. I post with my first two names. You post
with your first name. Same thing.
I sign my checks with my full name. You probably do, too..
Nothing is being hidden, and anyone who bothers can find ot every and all of
them.

Yet you could verify this all... I even gave you names... but you won't.
It
is more fun to be in denial, and use your lies to try to invalidate the
point that HD is here, like it or not.

It's far, far too late for you to attempt to implement this kind of
damage control. You've been caught too many times for this to work.
It's like putting a bandaid on decapitation.

You are simply triying to discredit an industry voice of reason and logic on
the HD issue. Who cares if I use my middle name or not all of the time. Is
George Bush a different person from George W. Bush or G.W. Bush? I think
not.

R&R means Rest and Relaxation.I had three choices,Hong Kong or Danang or
Tokio.Since I had already had an eight hour layover in Tokio and saw
some of the sights of beautifull down town Tokio (a lot of construction
was going on in the Ginza area and many places in Tokio,I saw it with my
own beady little eyeballs,they was getting ready for the 1964
Olympics,big mounds of dirt was piled up along that street in the
Ginza,new Subway additions,lots of rebuilding all over Tokio) and since
our Pan Am Blueball stopped over in Hong Kong for only half and hour and
we were told to stay on the Blueball and since I prefered to do my R&R
in a Country other than Vietnam,I chose Hong Kong for my five days R&R.
cuhulin