In article om,
"Jeroen" wrote:

Hello All,

Picking up my SWL hobby wich I left in ~ 1992.

I have a Phillips D2999PLL and Sony AN-1 which I have kept from back
then. My living situation is far worse (for SWL that is) compared to
back then when living ina quiet suburb. Living in the city centre now
with a supermarket with huge fans on their roof for cooling the
freezers and such, and ofcourse all the equipment from our neighbours.

So I've been reading the forums, sites and newsgroups on my equipment
and found that generally the receiver is well received (*g*), and the
antenna is not! Back then though I've been able to receive quite a
bunch of QSL cards from stations I picked up in the tropical bands. Had
lots and lotsof night of fun!

But, to improve my antenna situation I've been looking around to see
for alternatives. Active antenna's are out of the question for me.
Frick, the quality ones seem to start at 200Euro. As a soon to be daddy
and other expenses coming up I can't afford those...

I've little room for a reasonable 'random wire' either. After some
looking around I decided to give the EMF antenna a try from RF-Systems
in the Netherlands (where I come from as well, accidentally).
After a few days of trying different configurations (indoors, out on
the balcony, horizontal, vertical, north-south, west-east and all
inbetween, 30 degree sloped, earthing to the earthwire in the powerbox
of the appartment, etc) and comparing it to my Sony AN-1, I can savely
say, at best the EMF antenna produces equally to the Sony An-1, but has
never exceeded it. It seems to pickup far more noise and interference
then the AN-1 does.

So the EMF is up for grabs for anyone here who makes a good offer for
it!

I also have to add, I did quite some browsing and reading on the EMF
before I ordered it, and the general tendency was it is an OK antenna.

I guess, in my situation the AN-1 isnt such a bad antenna after all, or
the EMF is for my situation a really bad antenna!

This week I am going to try and build a magnetic loop. At first I saw
many daunting schematics which are too technical for me with my left
hands, but I found this page (http://www.kr1st.com/swlloop.htm) with a
*very* simple version that according to the writer is so simple as it
is for receiving only. Apparently, the transmitting ones need to be far
more technical. Does anyone has any tips regarding building any of
these? My particular interest is the 60meter band.

And, anyone any comments on my EMF/AN-1 comparison? I think I pretty
much tried all configurations, and in reality there isnt much to do
with the EMF, its all prebuild. But I'm open for suggestions!

Small active loop antennas are pricey but are most likely the best in
town choice.

To get an idea how this type of antenna will work in your location you
could build a passive loop at small cost using just coax cable.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
In article om,
"Jeroen" wrote:

Hello All,

Picking up my SWL hobby wich I left in ~ 1992.

I have a Phillips D2999PLL and Sony AN-1 which I have kept from back
then. My living situation is far worse (for SWL that is) compared to
back then when living ina quiet suburb. Living in the city centre now
with a supermarket with huge fans on their roof for cooling the
freezers and such, and ofcourse all the equipment from our neighbours.

So I've been reading the forums, sites and newsgroups on my equipment
and found that generally the receiver is well received (*g*), and the
antenna is not! Back then though I've been able to receive quite a
bunch of QSL cards from stations I picked up in the tropical bands. Had
lots and lotsof night of fun!

But, to improve my antenna situation I've been looking around to see
for alternatives. Active antenna's are out of the question for me.
Frick, the quality ones seem to start at 200Euro. As a soon to be daddy
and other expenses coming up I can't afford those...

I've little room for a reasonable 'random wire' either. After some
looking around I decided to give the EMF antenna a try from RF-Systems
in the Netherlands (where I come from as well, accidentally).
After a few days of trying different configurations (indoors, out on
the balcony, horizontal, vertical, north-south, west-east and all
inbetween, 30 degree sloped, earthing to the earthwire in the powerbox
of the appartment, etc) and comparing it to my Sony AN-1, I can savely
say, at best the EMF antenna produces equally to the Sony An-1, but has
never exceeded it. It seems to pickup far more noise and interference
then the AN-1 does.

So the EMF is up for grabs for anyone here who makes a good offer for
it!

I also have to add, I did quite some browsing and reading on the EMF
before I ordered it, and the general tendency was it is an OK antenna.

I guess, in my situation the AN-1 isnt such a bad antenna after all, or
the EMF is for my situation a really bad antenna!

This week I am going to try and build a magnetic loop. At first I saw
many daunting schematics which are too technical for me with my left
hands, but I found this page (http://www.kr1st.com/swlloop.htm) with a
*very* simple version that according to the writer is so simple as it
is for receiving only. Apparently, the transmitting ones need to be far
more technical. Does anyone has any tips regarding building any of
these? My particular interest is the 60meter band.

And, anyone any comments on my EMF/AN-1 comparison? I think I pretty
much tried all configurations, and in reality there isnt much to do
with the EMF, its all prebuild. But I'm open for suggestions!
-
- Small active loop antennas are pricey but
- are most likely the best in town choice.
-
- To get an idea how this type of antenna will work in your location
you
- could build a passive loop at small cost using just coax cable.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California


Telamon - Yes I Agreed - The single-turn Coax Cable {Shielded}
Loop Antenna for basic Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL) is one
of the better choices for ease of construction and utility.
http://www.iri.tudelft.nl/~geurink/i..._schematic.jpg

READ ABOUT - THe Coax Cable {Shielded} Loop Antenna
[GreerTech]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...7b1501f08ffebe
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...03fed7472a9e53

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8005ce8c7f5c9c
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f9f216217d3420

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...6e2b951e35abd9
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...52a8e37790a367
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8005ce8c7f5c9c
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...dc49a6c156fa2b


"Low Noise Receive-Only Coax Cable Loop Antennas for the
160 Meter to 10 Meter Shortwave {High Frequency} Bands"
http://www.greertech.com/hfloop/mymagloop.html
The so called GREER TECH "Coax Loop" Antenna.

The "TRICK" to TV 'type' Coax Cable [Shielded] SWL Loop Antennas
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...a0aadd03af7bc7

Hula Hoop Loop Antenna and more . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...fc1c535a7e8169
The basic design of the "GreerTech" Coax Cable [Shielded] Loop
Antenna is good and very practical.
GREERTECH = http://www.greertech.com/hfloop/mymagloop.html
LOOP= http://www.greertech.com/hfloop/mymagloop.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1625
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1730
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1539
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/1008

FWIW - 'other' "Shielded-Magnetic" Loop Receiving Antenna
WebPages to Check-Out :
http://www.io.com/~n5fc/loop_ant.html
http://user.netonecom.net/~swordman/Radio/shloopant.htm
http://www.qsl.net/mnqrp/Loop/Mag_Loops.htm
http://beradio.com/news/radio_shield..._am_antenna_2/
http://www.iri.tudelft.nl/~geurink/magnloop.htm
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx.../coaxloop.html

ABOUT - Loop Antennas:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~jadale/Loop.htm
- What is a Loop and Why Use It
- Construction Principles
- What Can I Use a Loop For
- Loops Another Look
- Pictures of Home Built PVC loops
- Loop Links


keeping you in the loop when it comes to
shortwave antennas cause . . . iane ~ RHF
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Shortwave Listener Antennas = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
SWL Antenna Group = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
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The Shortwave Listener's Blessing :
SWL BLESSING = http://tinyurl.com/s2bjm
May You Never Tire of Listening to the Radio and Always
have Strong Signals and Noise Free Reception ~ RHF {ibid}
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/9233
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Tous Sont Bienvenus ! - - - Groupe par Radio
d'auditeur d'onde courte pour des Antennes de SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
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Alle Sind Willkommen ! - - - Shortwave Radiozuhörer
Gruppe für SWL Antennen
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
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Tutti Sono Benvenuti ! - - - Gruppo Radiofonico
dell'ascoltatore di onda corta per le Antenne di SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
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Todos São Bem-vindos ! - - - Grupo de Rádio
do ouvinte do Shortwave para Antenas de SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
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Ð’Ñ�е Ð*адушны ! - - - Группа оператора
на приеме коротковолнового диапазона
Radio дл� Aнтенн SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
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¡Todos Son Agradables! - - - Grupo de Radio del oyente
de la onda corta para las Antenas de SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
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All are Welcome - - - To Join the Shortwave Listeners
(SWL) Antenna Group on YAHOO !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
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