CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz. QSL's are handled by
the Ontario DX Association, 155 Main St. N. , Apt 313
Newmarket, Ontario, Canada, L3Y 8C2
reports can also be sent by email to

CFRX is heard mainly in the north-east in daytime and goes long skip at
night but it is always on.
Their website is: http://www.odxa.on.ca/ and it has lots of
information and links.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz. QSL's are handled by
the Ontario DX Association, 155 Main St. N. , Apt 313
Newmarket, Ontario, Canada, L3Y 8C2
reports can also be sent by email to

CFRX is heard mainly in the north-east in daytime and goes long skip at
night but it is always on.

Sorry to tell you, but when I checked yesterday they were not on, nor are they
on at present.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF transmitter.

QSL's are handled by
the Ontario DX Association, 155 Main St. N. , Apt 313
Newmarket, Ontario, Canada, L3Y 8C2
reports can also be sent by email to

CFRX is heard mainly in the north-east in daytime and goes long skip at
night but it is always on.
Their website is: http://www.odxa.on.ca/ and it has lots of
information and links.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer. This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably failing.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried really, really hard
when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer. This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably failing.

Well, the article states that the transmitter was installed in 1983...

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

"David Eduardo" ) writes:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer. This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably failing.

I've heard stories, though I can't remember if it was about the station that
relayed CFCF radio here in Montreal, or the Toronto station.

But I thought both stations would be off the air by now. I'd say it's
pretty definite for the Montreal relay, given that CFCF doesn't even
exist anymore.

But these sorts of relays likely have been around for decades, from
a time when they might have had some purpose, and just kept going
through lethargy. The company has likely changed hands a few
times, nobody around knows about it, etc, etc.

So yes, if it really is still transmitting, it likely gets
no attention and when something fails, likely that's it.

Michael

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

Michael Black wrote:

"David Eduardo" ) writes:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer. This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably failing.

I've heard stories, though I can't remember if it was about the station that
relayed CFCF radio here in Montreal, or the Toronto station.

But I thought both stations would be off the air by now. I'd say it's
pretty definite for the Montreal relay, given that CFCF doesn't even
exist anymore.

But these sorts of relays likely have been around for decades, from
a time when they might have had some purpose, and just kept going
through lethargy. The company has likely changed hands a few
times, nobody around knows about it, etc, etc.

So yes, if it really is still transmitting, it likely gets
no attention and when something fails, likely that's it.

You be certain to get back to us when you get things figured out.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

dx(FMLAO)Ace wrote:

You be certain to get back to us when you get things figured out.

It's never stopped you, cretinous one.

mike



--
No, Mr. Chavez---Bush isn’t the devil. I’ve seen the devil’s work. He’s
competent.

Shakespeare's Sister
September 20, 2006

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

m II wrote:

dx(FMLAO)Ace wrote:

You be certain to get back to us when you get things figured out.

It's never stopped you, cretinous one.

Run along, 'tard boy. I'm certain there's a newsgroup devoted to cartoons where
you and the other dumbass Canucks can congregate.

Leave the shortwaves to the big boys.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

dx(FMLAO)Ace wrote:

m II wrote:

dx(FMLAO)Ace wrote:

You be certain to get back to us when you get things figured out.
It's never stopped you, cretinous one.

Run along, 'tard boy. I'm certain there's a newsgroup devoted to cartoons where
you and the other dumbass Canucks can congregate.

Leave the shortwaves to the big boys.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



http://wilstar.com/midi/burp.wav



--
No, Mr. Chavez---Bush isn’t the devil. I’ve seen the devil’s work. He’s
competent.

Shakespeare's Sister
September 20, 2006

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried really, really
hard
when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer. This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably
failing.

Well, the article states that the transmitter was installed in 1983...

Probably used, then. The 701 B was built in 1973.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried really, really
hard
when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer. This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably
failing.

Well, the article states that the transmitter was installed in 1983...

Probably used, then. The 701 B was built in 1973.

Guess that's kinda up in the air since the 701B was introduced in 1973 and hard
to say whether they continued to make it or not. The company, Elcom-Bauer,
continued at its California plant until 1993.

CFRX has had occasional problems over the years, and this is certainly not the
first time they've been off for a bit.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried really,
really
hard
when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs
of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer.
This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably
failing.

Well, the article states that the transmitter was installed in 1983...

Probably used, then. The 701 B was built in 1973.

Guess that's kinda up in the air since the 701B was introduced in 1973 and
hard
to say whether they continued to make it or not. The company, Elcom-Bauer,
continued at its California plant until 1993.

.... but not making the 701B.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried really,
really
hard
when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs
of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer.
This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably
failing.

Well, the article states that the transmitter was installed in 1983...

Probably used, then. The 701 B was built in 1973.

Guess that's kinda up in the air since the 701B was introduced in 1973 and
hard
to say whether they continued to make it or not. The company, Elcom-Bauer,
continued at its California plant until 1993.

... but not making the 701B.

According to Ian Sharp, CFRB/CFRX engineer:

"The EB701HF that CFRX uses was purchased new."

And Paul Gregg of Bauer Transmitters, Inc. states:

"The 701BHF transmitter was purchased new by CFRB/CFRX.

The 701 series of transmitters began production in 1971 and concluded in
1992 when the plant in Sacramento was moved to El Paso."

dxAce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


And Paul Gregg of Bauer Transmitters, Inc. states:

"The 701BHF transmitter was purchased new by CFRB/CFRX.

The 701 series of transmitters began production in 1971 and concluded in
1992 when the plant in Sacramento was moved to El Paso."

Not, however, the 701B, which was apparently last made in 1983. So the
transmitter is, at best, over 23 years old which is pretty ancient
considering the advances in technology.

Your statement is like saying, "The first Ford was made in 1902 and
continues through today."

"Early in 1983 the decision was made to purchase and install a new 1 kW
transmitter for CFRX. The present transmitter was delivered in December of
1983 and was commissioned December 31. The new facility is located in a room
next to the CFRB transmitters. The transmitter was manufactured by
Elcom-Bauer of Sacramento, California. The design is basically their Model
701B, with the tank circuit of the final stage redesigned and an RF driver
stage added after the standard RF oscillator card. The transmitter is now
designated a 701B-HF. It is a classic plate-modulated design and is capable
of producing high levels of modulation continuously, as is required for a
24-hour-a-day operation of CFRX."

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


And Paul Gregg of Bauer Transmitters, Inc. states:

"The 701BHF transmitter was purchased new by CFRB/CFRX.

The 701 series of transmitters began production in 1971 and concluded in
1992 when the plant in Sacramento was moved to El Paso."

Not, however, the 701B, which was apparently last made in 1983. So the
transmitter is, at best, over 23 years old which is pretty ancient
considering the advances in technology.

Your statement is like saying, "The first Ford was made in 1902 and
continues through today."

"Early in 1983 the decision was made to purchase and install a new 1 kW
transmitter for CFRX. The present transmitter was delivered in December of
1983 and was commissioned December 31. The new facility is located in a room
next to the CFRB transmitters. The transmitter was manufactured by
Elcom-Bauer of Sacramento, California. The design is basically their Model
701B, with the tank circuit of the final stage redesigned and an RF driver
stage added after the standard RF oscillator card. The transmitter is now
designated a 701B-HF. It is a classic plate-modulated design and is capable
of producing high levels of modulation continuously, as is required for a
24-hour-a-day operation of CFRX."

Yada, yada.

Keep talking out your ass, Edweenie! I find it to be quite humorous.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer. This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably failing.

Wrong! They purchased it new in 1983.

dxAcce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried really, really
hard
when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer. This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably
failing.

Well, the article states that the transmitter was installed in 1983...

Probably used, then.

Wrong! They purchased it new.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried really,
really
hard
when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs
of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer.
This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably
failing.

Well, the article states that the transmitter was installed in 1983...

Probably used, then.

Wrong! They purchased it new.

It's still really old, which was my point. Bauer did not sell many
transmitters in that era. The 701B was a derivative of a "quick and dirty"
model they built to fill the need of about 1,000 class IV stations for new
transmitters when the FCC authorized 1 kw for them. I think they sold
something like 300 at the time, which was quite amazing. The 701B was simply
an old-technology high-level plate modulated transmitter using, if I recall,
glass envelope tubes... maybe the 4-500A.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried really,
really
hard
when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs
of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer.
This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably
failing.

Well, the article states that the transmitter was installed in 1983...

Probably used, then.

Wrong! They purchased it new.

It's still really old, which was my point.

No, going back through the posts one will find that you were simply talking out
your ass.

You do it so well!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:55:12 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried really,
really
hard
when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the programs
of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer 701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station engineer.
This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably
failing.

Well, the article states that the transmitter was installed in 1983...

Probably used, then.

Wrong! They purchased it new.

It's still really old, which was my point. Bauer did not sell many
transmitters in that era. The 701B was a derivative of a "quick and dirty"
model they built to fill the need of about 1,000 class IV stations for new
transmitters when the FCC authorized 1 kw for them. I think they sold
something like 300 at the time, which was quite amazing. The 701B was simply
an old-technology high-level plate modulated transmitter using, if I recall,
glass envelope tubes... maybe the 4-500A.

KXIV and KRIZ both used the 707, in the '60s. KUPD got a couple in
the early '70s I recall. 4-400As.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

"David" wrote in message
...

It's still really old, which was my point. Bauer did not sell many
transmitters in that era. The 701B was a derivative of a "quick and dirty"
model they built to fill the need of about 1,000 class IV stations for new
transmitters when the FCC authorized 1 kw for them. I think they sold
something like 300 at the time, which was quite amazing. The 701B was
simply
an old-technology high-level plate modulated transmitter using, if I
recall,
glass envelope tubes... maybe the 4-500A.

KXIV and KRIZ both used the 707, in the '60s. KUPD got a couple in
the early '70s I recall. 4-400As.

I understood the B model at some point used 4-500's due to the relatively
short life of the US built 4-400 from EIMAC, and the transmitter's inability
to use the European QB4-1100 (without major work), which lasted as much as
5,000 hours more than the 4-400A.

KUPD was 500 watts all through the 60's. I do not recall the 701B having a
power cutback in the stock model... must have been a modified 701 which was
sold as a 1 kw only rig for upgrading Class IV station.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried really,
really
hard
when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"ve3..." wrote:

CFRX 6070 khz uses a Harris !kw transmitter to relay the
programs
of
CFRB Toronto 1010 khz.

The website given below states that they use an Elcom-Bauer
701B-HF
transmitter.

Most of the Bauers were kits, built on site by the station
engineer.
This
would indicate the transmitter is around 35 years old, and probably
failing.

Well, the article states that the transmitter was installed in
1983...

Probably used, then.

Wrong! They purchased it new.

It's still really old, which was my point.

No, going back through the posts one will find that you were simply
talking out
your ass.

You are such a fool. You have a total inability to read.

I said, in reference to the Bauer, that most were kits and "this would
indicate that the transmitter would be 35 years old."

For your dense mind, this means, as anyone with a tad of English would know,
that "if the transmitter was one of the kits, then it would be 35 years
old." It was later clarified that the transmitter was a later model, and
is STILL nearly a quarter century old.

You probably pick in your neighbors' garbage to see what you can fabricate
about them, too. If you had been a Roman, your specialty would have been the
reading of entrails to find hidden messages in goat's livers.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 06:12:31 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .

It's still really old, which was my point. Bauer did not sell many
transmitters in that era. The 701B was a derivative of a "quick and dirty"
model they built to fill the need of about 1,000 class IV stations for new
transmitters when the FCC authorized 1 kw for them. I think they sold
something like 300 at the time, which was quite amazing. The 701B was
simply
an old-technology high-level plate modulated transmitter using, if I
recall,
glass envelope tubes... maybe the 4-500A.

KXIV and KRIZ both used the 707, in the '60s. KUPD got a couple in
the early '70s I recall. 4-400As.

I understood the B model at some point used 4-500's due to the relatively
short life of the US built 4-400 from EIMAC, and the transmitter's inability
to use the European QB4-1100 (without major work), which lasted as much as
5,000 hours more than the 4-400A.

KUPD was 500 watts all through the 60's. I do not recall the 701B having a
power cutback in the stock model... must have been a modified 701 which was
sold as a 1 kw only rig for upgrading Class IV station.

I said 707. A transmitter with stock outputs of 1 KW and 0.25 KW can
easily be restrapped for 0.5 KW.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 06:12:31 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..

It's still really old, which was my point. Bauer did not sell many
transmitters in that era. The 701B was a derivative of a "quick and
dirty"
model they built to fill the need of about 1,000 class IV stations for
new
transmitters when the FCC authorized 1 kw for them. I think they sold
something like 300 at the time, which was quite amazing. The 701B was
simply
an old-technology high-level plate modulated transmitter using, if I
recall,
glass envelope tubes... maybe the 4-500A.

KXIV and KRIZ both used the 707, in the '60s. KUPD got a couple in
the early '70s I recall. 4-400As.

I understood the B model at some point used 4-500's due to the relatively
short life of the US built 4-400 from EIMAC, and the transmitter's
inability
to use the European QB4-1100 (without major work), which lasted as much as
5,000 hours more than the 4-400A.

KUPD was 500 watts all through the 60's. I do not recall the 701B having a
power cutback in the stock model... must have been a modified 701 which
was
sold as a 1 kw only rig for upgrading Class IV station.

I said 707. A transmitter with stock outputs of 1 KW and 0.25 KW can
easily be restrapped for 0.5 KW.

I saw a bunch of 707's, and they were designed for Class IV stations running
1 kw always, meaning they had no cutback switch. It was brought to the
market when the FCC approved 1 kw day an night for the roughly 1000 class IV
stations in the US, and originally had no cutback. Was there a model with
such?

The issue with using a higher power transmitter for lower licensed fulltime
power is that the FCC did not approve usage of such in the 60's and a
modified right was likely not type accepted (doable with paperwork, though).
A believe the rules did not allow more than 20% or 25% greater transmitter
power than the licensed power or higher power if licensed at more than one
power level.

The 701 superseded the 707, and used 4.500's. The B model was solid state in
the exciter and audio driver, only having 4 final and modulator tubes.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
.. .

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 06:12:31 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
...

It's still really old, which was my point. Bauer did not sell many
transmitters in that era. The 701B was a derivative of a "quick and
dirty"
model they built to fill the need of about 1,000 class IV stations for
new
transmitters when the FCC authorized 1 kw for them. I think they sold
something like 300 at the time, which was quite amazing. The 701B was
simply
an old-technology high-level plate modulated transmitter using, if I
recall,
glass envelope tubes... maybe the 4-500A.

KXIV and KRIZ both used the 707, in the '60s. KUPD got a couple in
the early '70s I recall. 4-400As.

I understood the B model at some point used 4-500's due to the relatively
short life of the US built 4-400 from EIMAC, and the transmitter's
inability
to use the European QB4-1100 (without major work), which lasted as much
as
5,000 hours more than the 4-400A.

KUPD was 500 watts all through the 60's. I do not recall the 701B having
a
power cutback in the stock model... must have been a modified 701 which
was
sold as a 1 kw only rig for upgrading Class IV station.

I said 707. A transmitter with stock outputs of 1 KW and 0.25 KW can
easily be restrapped for 0.5 KW.

I saw a bunch of 707's, and they were designed for Class IV stations
running 1 kw always, meaning they had no cutback switch. It was brought to
the market when the FCC approved 1 kw day an night for the roughly 1000
class IV stations in the US, and originally had no cutback. Was there a
model with such?

My mistake. I called a guy who actually built a 707 (and maintained several
other Bauers as well) and he said the 707 came as a both a fixed power kit
for staitons with one level and an adjustable second power selection for
those with multiple output levels.

Here is one without the cutback... a 1 kw daytimer on 1290 that had no need
for two power levels.

http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/707.htm

The issue with using a higher power transmitter for lower licensed
fulltime power is that the FCC did not approve usage of such in the 60's
and a modified right was likely not type accepted (doable with paperwork,
though). A believe the rules did not allow more than 20% or 25% greater
transmitter power than the licensed power or higher power if licensed at
more than one power level.

The 701 superseded the 707, which was built for about 10 years, and used
4-500's. The B model was solid state in the exciter and audio driver, only
having 4 final and modulator tubes.

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 06:12:31 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..

It's still really old, which was my point. Bauer did not sell many
transmitters in that era. The 701B was a derivative of a "quick and
dirty"
model they built to fill the need of about 1,000 class IV stations for
new
transmitters when the FCC authorized 1 kw for them. I think they sold
something like 300 at the time, which was quite amazing. The 701B was
simply
an old-technology high-level plate modulated transmitter using, if I
recall,
glass envelope tubes... maybe the 4-500A.

KXIV and KRIZ both used the 707, in the '60s. KUPD got a couple in
the early '70s I recall. 4-400As.

I understood the B model at some point used 4-500's due to the relatively
short life of the US built 4-400 from EIMAC, and the transmitter's
inability
to use the European QB4-1100 (without major work), which lasted as much as
5,000 hours more than the 4-400A.

KUPD was 500 watts all through the 60's. I do not recall the 701B having a
power cutback in the stock model... must have been a modified 701 which
was
sold as a 1 kw only rig for upgrading Class IV station.

I said 707. A transmitter with stock outputs of 1 KW and 0.25 KW can
easily be restrapped for 0.5 KW.

I saw a bunch of 707's, and they were designed for Class IV stations running
1 kw always, meaning they had no cutback switch. It was brought to the
market when the FCC approved 1 kw day an night for the roughly 1000 class IV
stations in the US, and originally had no cutback. Was there a model with
such?

The 707 was apparently designed to operate at both 1000 watts and 250 watts.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:30:53 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 06:12:31 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
...

It's still really old, which was my point. Bauer did not sell many
transmitters in that era. The 701B was a derivative of a "quick and
dirty"
model they built to fill the need of about 1,000 class IV stations for
new
transmitters when the FCC authorized 1 kw for them. I think they sold
something like 300 at the time, which was quite amazing. The 701B was
simply
an old-technology high-level plate modulated transmitter using, if I
recall,
glass envelope tubes... maybe the 4-500A.

KXIV and KRIZ both used the 707, in the '60s. KUPD got a couple in
the early '70s I recall. 4-400As.

I understood the B model at some point used 4-500's due to the relatively
short life of the US built 4-400 from EIMAC, and the transmitter's
inability
to use the European QB4-1100 (without major work), which lasted as much as
5,000 hours more than the 4-400A.

KUPD was 500 watts all through the 60's. I do not recall the 701B having a
power cutback in the stock model... must have been a modified 701 which
was
sold as a 1 kw only rig for upgrading Class IV station.

I said 707. A transmitter with stock outputs of 1 KW and 0.25 KW can
easily be restrapped for 0.5 KW.

I saw a bunch of 707's, and they were designed for Class IV stations running
1 kw always, meaning they had no cutback switch. It was brought to the
market when the FCC approved 1 kw day an night for the roughly 1000 class IV
stations in the US, and originally had no cutback. Was there a model with
such?

The issue with using a higher power transmitter for lower licensed fulltime
power is that the FCC did not approve usage of such in the 60's and a
modified right was likely not type accepted (doable with paperwork, though).
A believe the rules did not allow more than 20% or 25% greater transmitter
power than the licensed power or higher power if licensed at more than one
power level.

The 701 superseded the 707, and used 4.500's. The B model was solid state in
the exciter and audio driver, only having 4 final and modulator tubes.

I've seen the transmitter. I knew Frank Muter.

http://www.rwonline.com/reference-ro..._bauer_7.shtml

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


The 707 was apparently designed to operate at both 1000 watts and 250
watts.


I ma told by an engineer who worked on several that the cutback kit was an
option. The one I linked to, a 1 kw daytimer in Texas, did not have a
cutback.

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"David" wrote in message
...
power level.

The 701 superseded the 707, and used 4.500's. The B model was solid state
in
the exciter and audio driver, only having 4 final and modulator tubes.

I've seen the transmitter. I knew Frank Muter.

This sounds like your statement that the Level Devil was never used as a
compressor.

There were 707's with the cutback, and 707's without. Our chief in LA has
worked on both (And both of us have worked with the same Bauer 5 kw at KWIZ
in Santa Ana).

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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:36:00 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
power level.

The 701 superseded the 707, and used 4.500's. The B model was solid state
in
the exciter and audio driver, only having 4 final and modulator tubes.

I've seen the transmitter. I knew Frank Muter.

This sounds like your statement that the Level Devil was never used as a
compressor.

There were 707's with the cutback, and 707's without. Our chief in LA has
worked on both (And both of us have worked with the same Bauer 5 kw at KWIZ
in Santa Ana).

No. I said the Level Devil WAS a compressor, not a peak limiter.

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"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:36:00 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
power level.

The 701 superseded the 707, and used 4.500's. The B model was solid
state
in
the exciter and audio driver, only having 4 final and modulator tubes.

I've seen the transmitter. I knew Frank Muter.

This sounds like your statement that the Level Devil was never used as a
compressor.

There were 707's with the cutback, and 707's without. Our chief in LA has
worked on both (And both of us have worked with the same Bauer 5 kw at
KWIZ
in Santa Ana).

No. I said the Level Devil WAS a compressor, not a peak limiter.

Same thing. It was used frequently as both. My point is that your
information is somewhat limited.

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David Frackelton Gleason, a boy even his mama told to hit the road, wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:36:00 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
power level.

The 701 superseded the 707, and used 4.500's. The B model was solid
state
in
the exciter and audio driver, only having 4 final and modulator tubes.

I've seen the transmitter. I knew Frank Muter.

This sounds like your statement that the Level Devil was never used as a
compressor.

There were 707's with the cutback, and 707's without. Our chief in LA has
worked on both (And both of us have worked with the same Bauer 5 kw at
KWIZ
in Santa Ana).

No. I said the Level Devil WAS a compressor, not a peak limiter.

Same thing. It was used frequently as both. My point is that your
information is somewhat limited.

As is yours ..

... proven fact.

Run along, boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, a boy even his mama told to hit the road, wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:36:00 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
power level.

The 701 superseded the 707, and used 4.500's. The B model was solid
state
in
the exciter and audio driver, only having 4 final and modulator
tubes.

I've seen the transmitter. I knew Frank Muter.

This sounds like your statement that the Level Devil was never used as
a
compressor.

There were 707's with the cutback, and 707's without. Our chief in LA
has
worked on both (And both of us have worked with the same Bauer 5 kw at
KWIZ
in Santa Ana).

No. I said the Level Devil WAS a compressor, not a peak limiter.

Same thing. It was used frequently as both. My point is that your
information is somewhat limited.

As is yours ..

.. proven fact.


Have you ever worked inside a Bauer?

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Have you ever worked inside a Bauer?

Have you ever pulled your head outta your ass?

Here you are, with your non-answer, pretty conclusively proving that you
have never worked on a Bauer. You have probably never even seen one on the
outside. This is why you do not know that there was a 1 kw-only version of
the kit, intended for stations that were not Class IVs that had to cut
power. The whole idea of the 707 was to provide a very cheap transmitter for
small stations... thus the kit.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Have you ever worked inside a Bauer?

Have you ever pulled your head outta your ass?

Here you are, with your non-answer, pretty conclusively proving that you
have never worked on a Bauer. You have probably never even seen one on the
outside. This is why you do not know that there was a 1 kw-only version of
the kit, intended for stations that were not Class IVs that had to cut
power. The whole idea of the 707 was to provide a very cheap transmitter for
small stations... thus the kit.

What the hell does the 707 have to do with CKFX?

Pay attention, dip****.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Have you ever worked inside a Bauer?

Have you ever pulled your head outta your ass?

Here you are, with your non-answer, pretty conclusively proving that you
have never worked on a Bauer. You have probably never even seen one on the
outside. This is why you do not know that there was a 1 kw-only version of
the kit, intended for stations that were not Class IVs that had to cut
power. The whole idea of the 707 was to provide a very cheap transmitter for
small stations... thus the kit.

What the hell does the 707 have to do with CKFX?

Or even CFRX? :-)



Pay attention, dip****.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

David Frackelton Gleason, posing as 'Eduardo', Univision Radio's most prolific
pedant and general all 'round **** wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Have you ever worked inside a Bauer?

Have you ever pulled your head outta your ass?

Here you are, with your non-answer, pretty conclusively proving that you
have never worked on a Bauer.

So what?

You have probably never even seen one on the
outside.

Sure I have, there are pics all over the net, 'tard boy.

This is why you do not know that there was a 1 kw-only version of
the kit, intended for stations that were not Class IVs that had to cut
power. The whole idea of the 707 was to provide a very cheap transmitter for
small stations... thus the kit.

Who gives a ****, 'tard boy? CFRX doesn't use a 707, they use a 701B-HF.

And you've been wrong, wrong, wrong all along!

Now pull your swollen head outta your fake Hispanic ass and move along.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

CFRX 6070- an easy QSL
 

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 01:23:07 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



Same thing. It was used frequently as both. My point is that your
information is somewhat limited.

I say your technical knowledge is limited. I was working in broadcast
engineering when the Levil Devil was still in the Gates catalog, early
in their tradition of building crappy audio processing.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Have you ever worked inside a Bauer?

Have you ever pulled your head outta your ass?

Here you are, with your non-answer, pretty conclusively proving that you
have never worked on a Bauer. You have probably never even seen one on
the
outside. This is why you do not know that there was a 1 kw-only version
of
the kit, intended for stations that were not Class IVs that had to cut
power. The whole idea of the 707 was to provide a very cheap transmitter
for
small stations... thus the kit.

What the hell does the 707 have to do with CKFX?

The discussion had moved, via David's post, to the 707 which he mentioned he
knew had been used by KRIZ and KUPD in the 60's.

Your have ADD or sumpin?