bpnjensen wrote:

dxAce wrote:

"Project temporarily stopped because:

- censorship pressure by IBB Washington

WTF? Censorship of already public information? By whom, for what? I
thought ILG was in Germany anyways -

Part of the reason may be explained in the last paragraph of this:

PUBLICATIONS
++++++++++++

ILGRADIO --- FREE DATABASE PROJECT --- Project temporarily stopped
because:
- copyright violence
- censorship pressure by IBB Washington
- spam-mail and form-mail (about 700 a day)

After successful solution of these problems it will be decided later
if this project will continue or not ...
(from http://www.ilgradio.com Sept 30 via DXLD)

Such a shame... Does anyone has any good alternatives to use while
waiting for its return (I hope)? (Jeroen Kloppenburg, dxldyg via DXLD)

Several online sources, each with a different approach and its
strengths and weaknesses, make up for ILG, which I have found also has
significant weaknesses:

HFCC A-06 schedule, download zip file from
http://www.hfcc.org/data/index.html
Unfortunately, HFCC is incomplete, and you may thank Mr. ILG for that!

BC A06 - The comprehensive shortwave broadcasting schedule
http://www.eibi.de.vu/ leading to:
in time order:
http://www.susi-und-strolch.de/eibi/dx/bc-a06.txt
and frequency order:
http://www.susi-und-strolch.de/eibi/dx/freq-a06.txt

Schedules sorted by language:
http://www.addx.de/Hfpdat/plaene.php

Schedules sorted by station, many from DXLD:
http://www.bclnews.it

Prime Time Shortwave,
many different sorts, English only, without all the details,
and not always up to date:
http://www.primetimeshortwave.com

WRTH A-06 supplement, by country, also language and frequency sorts:
http://www.wrth.com/files/WRTHMay06.pdf
73, (Glenn Hauser, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

I was using the ILG together with the "Tropenband Liste" from Pasmann,
another great resource which has been stopped

``Unfortunately, HFCC is incomplete, and you may thank Mr. ILG for
that!``

How come? [see below]. EiBi looks very handy; I had it actually in my
bookmarks but forgotten all about it... Thanks

I've also found a "Africa List"
http://www.muenster.org/uwz/ms-alt/africalist/ which IMO is less
useful if you, like me, just browse the bands up and down, instead of
typing in exactly what you want to hear.

If at some point in time such initiatives completely disappear I would
just need some time to develop a website that a group of people could
use to update a frequency list. It would just need to find a few days
coding it. Anyway, that's a possibility for later, if all free
services are gone, *and* if there are enough people or ways to keep
such a list updated with correct data (Jeroen Kloppenburg, ibid.)

Bernd Friedewald of ILG also has a frequency management business, with
several clients including Radio Australia, and requires that HFCC
delete all `BFM` entries from publicly-accessible data. The true
reason is best known to himself, but we can only assume it is to make
his ILG and other resources for a price more valuable (Glenn Hauser,
OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

dxAce
Michigan
USA