Are the call letters KCBS the only example of their kind? KCBS is an
Infinity (CBS/Viacom) all newser on 740 kHz in San Francisco. KCB S-FM
(formerly KNX-FM) and KCBS-TV (formerly KNXT) are in Los Angeles.

By the way, KCBS in San Francisco is one of several stations (of which
the best known is now co-owned KDKA) which claims to be the first
broadcasting station in the U.S. Their claim has to do with Doc
Herrold's arc broadcasting experiments in San Jose in the years before
World War I.

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Tester wrote:
Are the call letters KCBS the only example of their kind? KCBS is an
Infinity (CBS/Viacom) all newser on 740 kHz in San Francisco. KCB S-FM
(formerly KNX-FM) and KCBS-TV (formerly KNXT) are in Los Angeles.

No.

For example, KSAS-FM on 103.3 in the Boise, Idaho area while KSAS-TV is
in Wichita, Kansas. Or KTRS(AM) in St. Louis while KTRS-FM is in
Casper, Wyoming. I'm sure there are others.

I do think KCBS was the first, when the FCC decided to allow a given
company to reuse "base calls" on co-owned stations in different services
in different areas.

Later, the rules were amended to allow reuse by *any* station (even
those not commonly-owned) provided they had the consent of whoever held
the calls first.

Today, I'm not sure they even need consent - it may just be a matter of
"try it if you think you won't get sued"...

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Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

"Tester" wrote in message
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Are the call letters KCBS the only example of their kind?
KCBS is an Infinity (CBS/Viacom) all newser on 740 kHz
KCB S-FM (formerly KNX-FM) and KCBS-TV (formerly KNXT) are in Los Angeles.

These are not the same call signs. The TV and FM endings are integral parts
of the callsign
According to the way the FCC looks at callsigns these are three separate
call signs.

KCBS is a four letter call sign
KCBSFM is a six letter callsign which happens to end in FM
KCBSTV is a six letter callsign which happens to end in TV.

WLW and WLWT, or WWV and WWVA, or WBT and WBTV are not the same callsigns,
even though each set contains the same first three letters and each station
is owned by a different owner.

In article ,
Tester wrote:
Are the call letters KCBS the only example of their kind? KCBS is an
Infinity (CBS/Viacom) all newser on 740 kHz in San Francisco. KCB S-FM
(formerly KNX-FM) and KCBS-TV (formerly KNXT) are in Los Angeles.

As I understand it, the actual callsigns are KCBS-AM, KCBS-TV, KCBS-FM.
Three distinct calls. That's how calls show up in the FCC liscence database.
(Perhaps, without the '-').

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

Mark Zenier wrote:
In article ,
Tester wrote:

Are the call letters KCBS the only example of their kind? KCBS is an
Infinity (CBS/Viacom) all newser on 740 kHz in San Francisco. KCB S-FM
(formerly KNX-FM) and KCBS-TV (formerly KNXT) are in Los Angeles.


As I understand it, the actual callsigns are KCBS-AM, KCBS-TV, KCBS-FM.
Three distinct calls. That's how calls show up in the FCC liscence database.
(Perhaps, without the '-').

That's pretty much right.

There is no -AM suffix - AM stations never have a suffix.

FM or TV stations *may* not have -FM or -TV suffixes, if they aren't
necessary to avoid conflicts. For example, LA's channel 4 is KNBC - not
KNBC-TV - because there is no KNBC(AM) or KNBC(FM).

However, a station might have a suffix even if it doesn't need it...
For example, channel 11 in Green Bay, which is WLUK-TV even though there
is no WLUK (AM) or WLUK (FM).

There is no KQED(AM), so channel 9 in San Francisco can be KQED, not
KQED-TV. There is however a KQED radio, on FM, so to avoid conflict
with the TV station (that was there first) it's KQED-FM.

Confused yet?grin
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Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com