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[email protected] November 1st 06 04:04 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
I'm riding my bicycle on a long distance bike tour next
summer. Will be camping out along way

What small rugged model SW would you guys advise for
such a trip?

November 1st 06 04:31 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 

Kaito 1101 : Multi band- Speaker - Antenna jack . My favorite for
backpacking on the A.T., excellent am ..fm.. sw.. reception for price and
weight.



[email protected] November 1st 06 05:26 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
wrote:


Kaito 1101 : Multi band- Speaker - Antenna jack . My favorite for
backpacking on the A.T., excellent am ..fm.. sw.. reception for price and
weight.


Thanks

Pretty robust unit? Not flimsy made?

[email protected] November 1st 06 06:08 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 

wrote:
I'm riding my bicycle on a long distance bike tour next
summer. Will be camping out along way

What small rugged model SW would you guys advise for
such a trip?


Not sure how rugged you need it to be. Most of the small Degen,
Redson, Eton, etc., radios would easily survive being carried in a
backpack or pannier. If this is a multi-week trip consider that extra
batteries may take up needed space and add weight.


Jim Hackett November 1st 06 08:19 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
FR-200. Not "real" small but has the advantage of not needing batteries.
Crank away...
P.S. I wasn't referring to speed when I said crank away....



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I'm riding my bicycle on a long distance bike tour next
summer. Will be camping out along way

What small rugged model SW would you guys advise for
such a trip?




justin david November 1st 06 08:45 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:19:08 GMT, "Jim Hackett"
wrote:

FR-200. Not "real" small but has the advantage of not needing batteries.
Crank away...
P.S. I wasn't referring to speed when I said crank away....



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I'm riding my bicycle on a long distance bike tour next
summer. Will be camping out along way

What small rugged model SW would you guys advise for
such a trip?


I have a Kaito 105 that's smaller than the 1101 and fairly rugged,
and the reception is nice.

[email protected] November 1st 06 09:22 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
"Jim Hackett" wrote:

FR-200. Not "real" small but has the advantage of not needing batteries.


That thing looks pretty bulky

I have to have small, compact and lightweight as I'm
riding this bike abt 1500 miles and every ounce saved
is worth it

Lisa Simpson November 1st 06 09:22 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
Grundig Mini 300 PE

wrote in message
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I'm riding my bicycle on a long distance bike tour next
summer. Will be camping out along way

What small rugged model SW would you guys advise for
such a trip?




[email protected] November 1st 06 09:23 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
justin david wrote:

I have a Kaito 105 that's smaller than the 1101 and fairly rugged,
and the reception is nice.


ok thanks will have a look

MaMaDoG November 2nd 06 03:30 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
Sony ICF-SW100 or INF-SW07
Both are superb!

wrote in message
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I'm riding my bicycle on a long distance bike tour next
summer. Will be camping out along way

What small rugged model SW would you guys advise for
such a trip?




Barker November 2nd 06 04:42 PM

Small rugged SW for long distance bike tour - Sony SW-100 or SW07
 
The smallest and best portable shortwave radios ever made:

The Sony ICF SW-100 is very good but needs the AN-LP1 antenna to perform
well.

Waters & Stanton ships to the US. My orders have been received in as little
as 1 week.
http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/Sony_P...Receivers.html (no active
antenna)
http://www.ogormans.co.uk/shortwav1.htm#SONY ICF-SW100 (no active antenna)
http://www.unitedbuy.com/icfsw100s.html (includes active antenna AN-LP1)

The SW-07 is sweet and includes the automatic AN-LP2 active antenna.

http://parkaveelectronics.com/produc...mid=SONICFSW07
http://www.pmelectronix.com/sony-per...dio-p-708.html
http://www.unitedbuy.com/icfsw07.html

Except for Waters & Stanton I would call these places to confirm item is in
stock.

Both of these radios are very desireable and have a high resale value.

"MaMaDoG" wrote in message
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Sony ICF-SW100 or INF-SW07
Both are superb!

wrote in message
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I'm riding my bicycle on a long distance bike tour next
summer. Will be camping out along way

What small rugged model SW would you guys advise for
such a trip?






[email protected] November 2nd 06 05:31 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
"MaMaDoG" wrote:

Sony ICF-SW100 or INF-SW07
Both are superb!


thanks

I like the folding aspect of the Sony above!

Seems to me that a folding unit might be better on a
bicycle as it would pack better

[email protected] November 2nd 06 06:09 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
Wait a minute,,,,, where I was? Lemme get a jimmy on meself and see
where I am at.Ell,I don't knowwwww,,,,,
cuhulin


Jim Hackett November 2nd 06 08:16 PM

Small rugged SW for long distance bike tour - Sony SW-100 or SW07
 
Having both of those (sw-07 sw-100) I wouldn't consider either one "rugged"
by any means.
It wouldn't take much of a drop to rip the folding lid and wires right off
of them...




"Barker" wrote in message
...
The smallest and best portable shortwave radios ever made:

The Sony ICF SW-100 is very good but needs the AN-LP1 antenna to perform
well.

Waters & Stanton ships to the US. My orders have been received in as
little
as 1 week.
http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/Sony_P...Receivers.html (no active
antenna)
http://www.ogormans.co.uk/shortwav1.htm#SONY ICF-SW100 (no active antenna)
http://www.unitedbuy.com/icfsw100s.html (includes active antenna AN-LP1)

The SW-07 is sweet and includes the automatic AN-LP2 active antenna.

http://parkaveelectronics.com/produc...mid=SONICFSW07
http://www.pmelectronix.com/sony-per...dio-p-708.html
http://www.unitedbuy.com/icfsw07.html

Except for Waters & Stanton I would call these places to confirm item is
in
stock.

Both of these radios are very desireable and have a high resale value.

"MaMaDoG" wrote in message
...
Sony ICF-SW100 or INF-SW07
Both are superb!

wrote in message
...
I'm riding my bicycle on a long distance bike tour next
summer. Will be camping out along way

What small rugged model SW would you guys advise for
such a trip?








Scooby November 3rd 06 04:37 PM

Small rugged SW for long distance bike tour - Sony SW-100 or SW07
 
I currently own both and they are certainly more rugged than any cheap bulky
Degan/Kaito/Redsun chinese garbage.

"Jim Hackett" wrote in message
t...
Having both of those (sw-07 sw-100) I wouldn't consider either one

"rugged"
by any means.
It wouldn't take much of a drop to rip the folding lid and wires right off
of them...




"Barker" wrote in message
...
The smallest and best portable shortwave radios ever made:

The Sony ICF SW-100 is very good but needs the AN-LP1 antenna to perform
well.

Waters & Stanton ships to the US. My orders have been received in as
little
as 1 week.
http://www.wsplc.com/acatalog/Sony_P...Receivers.html (no active
antenna)
http://www.ogormans.co.uk/shortwav1.htm#SONY ICF-SW100 (no active

antenna)
http://www.unitedbuy.com/icfsw100s.html (includes active antenna AN-LP1)

The SW-07 is sweet and includes the automatic AN-LP2 active antenna.

http://parkaveelectronics.com/produc...mid=SONICFSW07

http://www.pmelectronix.com/sony-per...dio-p-708.html
http://www.unitedbuy.com/icfsw07.html

Except for Waters & Stanton I would call these places to confirm item is
in
stock.

Both of these radios are very desireable and have a high resale value.

"MaMaDoG" wrote in message
...
Sony ICF-SW100 or INF-SW07
Both are superb!

wrote in message
...
I'm riding my bicycle on a long distance bike tour next
summer. Will be camping out along way

What small rugged model SW would you guys advise for
such a trip?









[email protected] November 3rd 06 05:22 PM

Small rugged SW for long distance bike tour - Sony SW-100 orSW07
 
Go to a Walgreen's store in your area and see what they have in the way
of a small AM/FM/Shortwave radio.I am guessing you want something
inexpensive and if it gets dropped or wet,you won't be out much
money.Happy Biycling.
cuhulin


[email protected] November 5th 06 03:05 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
"MaMaDoG" wrote:

Sony ICF-SW100


Of all the units mentioned is this the only one that
has digital tuning?

Libertad November 5th 06 04:14 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
If your seriously considering the SW-100E (E=European version), also
consider the Sony AN-LP1 antenna. This antenna was included with the now
discontinued SW-100S (S=System -N.A. version).

Without the AN-LP1/2 antenna, reception off the whip of either radio will be
compromised but still very usable.

The SW-07 (includes AN-LP2 antenna) and the SW-100 are both digital tuning
and both have a synch detector.

I personally like the ergonomics of the SW-100 but the SW07 automatically
tunes the AN-LP2 (included). The AN-LP1 has a dial for band switching.

The SW-100's case is more rugged than the SW-07. But with either radio, or
any radio for that matter, I would treat them with care.

Performance of these two radios with the AN-LP1/2 antenna are virtually
identical. The performance edge is given to the SW-100 when comparing both
radios off the whip. The SW-07 has more memory and also has a station
memory ROM chip that can be updated annually. The SW-100 has 100 memories.

Yahoo groups has a group for each of these radios with lots of good info.

wrote in message
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"MaMaDoG" wrote:

Sony ICF-SW100


Of all the units mentioned is this the only one that
has digital tuning?




[email protected] November 5th 06 06:02 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
"Libertad" wrote:

If your seriously considering the SW-100E (E=European version), also
consider the Sony AN-LP1 antenna. This antenna was included with the now
discontinued SW-100S (S=System -N.A. version).


remember this is for a long distance bicycle ride now.

Cant carry everything you know. G

[email protected] November 5th 06 06:49 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
www.walgreens.com (Electronics,Radios) If you are going to be
tuning a radio while riding a bicycle,unless you rig a good neckstrap to
the radio,chances are you will drop the radio on the road and it's a
goner.I don't know about the Walgreen's stores in your area,but the
Walgreen's stores in my area almost always has some electronic thingys
on sale and if they have any AM/FM/Shortwave radios on sale,you can buy
one for about one third to about one half price off of the regular store
price.
cuhulin


Jim November 5th 06 09:38 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
i use a rat shack dx399(sangean 606) in a dumptruck. its very durable!
it even fell out and got run over in the mud once! it looks a little
rough but still works perfectly. i also use a grundig mini 300 while
working construction. it hangs off the back of my baseball cap in its
little protective cover with the antenna sticking up above my head. that
would work perfectly while riding a bike. battery usage is great! i get
almost 2 weeks on two aa cells. (watch out that you dont poke any eyes
out with the antenna sticking up!)


[email protected] November 5th 06 09:46 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
wrote:

www.walgreens.com (Electronics,Radios) If you are going to be
tuning a radio while riding a bicycle,unless you rig a good neckstrap to
the radio,chances are you will drop the radio on the road and it's a
goner.I don't know about the Walgreen's stores in your area,but the
Walgreen's stores in my area almost always has some electronic thingys
on sale and if they have any AM/FM/Shortwave radios on sale,you can buy
one for about one third to about one half price off of the regular store
price.
cuhulin


The SW radio will only be listened to at night while in
the tent.

No listening will be done while riding the bike.

[email protected] November 5th 06 10:00 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
At night in a tent? In that case if you want to spend a little more
money,I suggest a Sony 7600GR Radio and a very good waterproof cover to
keep it dry.
cuhulin


Scooby November 6th 06 04:51 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 

wrote in message
...
"Libertad" wrote:

If your seriously considering the SW-100E (E=European version), also
consider the Sony AN-LP1 antenna. This antenna was included with the now
discontinued SW-100S (S=System -N.A. version).


remember this is for a long distance bicycle ride now.

Cant carry everything you know. G


The AN-LP1/2 fold up into the provided flat pouch about 8" square.
Very easy to pack and well worth the money.

FYI: Used SW07 w/box, manual, antenna, $300
http://www.universal-radio.com/alert.html



Scooby November 6th 06 04:51 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SonyICF-sw100/

wrote in message
...
"Libertad" wrote:

If your seriously considering the SW-100E (E=European version), also
consider the Sony AN-LP1 antenna. This antenna was included with the now
discontinued SW-100S (S=System -N.A. version).


remember this is for a long distance bicycle ride now.

Cant carry everything you know. G




bpnjensen November 6th 06 05:12 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
Jim wrote:
i use a rat shack dx399(sangean 606) in a dumptruck. its very durable!
it even fell out and got run over in the mud once! it looks a little
rough but still works perfectly. snips


Let's see - got run over in the mud (by the dump truck?), but looks
only a "little " rough? My, you are a charitable fellow! ;-)

Bruce Jensen


[email protected] November 6th 06 05:40 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
Put that radio that got run over by a dump truck on Ripley's Believe It
Or Not. www.ripleys.com and hand me a bottle of Fred Sanford's
Ripple.
cuhulin


Chris Malcolm November 8th 06 11:51 AM

Small rugged SW for long distance bike tour - Sony SW-100 or SW07
 
Barker wrote:
"MaMaDoG" wrote in message
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wrote in message
...


I'm riding my bicycle on a long distance bike tour next
summer. Will be camping out along way

What small rugged model SW would you guys advise for
such a trip?


Sony ICF-SW100 or INF-SW07
Both are superb!


The SW100 was my choice for backpacking and camping many years ago. I
was impressed enough to buy another when it got broken.

The smallest and best portable shortwave radios ever made:


Agreed.

The Sony ICF SW-100 is very good but needs the AN-LP1 antenna to perform
well.


Many folk have suggested that Sony's little wire extension aerial,
about 15 feet of wire in a little plastic reel that clips onto the
aerial, gives as good results as AN-LP1 if erected vertically (e.g. up
into a tree), and sometimes better.

For home listening I've strung out a 25 foot nearly vertical wire,
which gives a good improvement over Sony's 15' reel. If reception was
a problem backpacking (which I've never found in the UK -- the fully
extended whip is nearly always good enough, and the reel for difficult
cases), I'd simply consider taking some extra wire along. Very thin
stuff is fine. With some string and a stone you can throw the string
over a branch and pull up a vertical wire.

http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/gadgets/SW100.html

--
Chris Malcolm DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[
http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]


Chris Malcolm November 8th 06 11:55 AM

Small rugged SW for long distance bike tour - Sony SW-100 or SW07
 
Jim Hackett wrote:

Having both of those (sw-07 sw-100) I wouldn't consider either one "rugged"
by any means.
It wouldn't take much of a drop to rip the folding lid and wires right off
of them...


That's true if operating the SW100 open. But if moving about you can
operate it closed, and it comes with a little pseudo-leather
semi-pouch which closes over the lid snap, which both cushions falls
and stops the lid opening in a fall. The volume control and an earphone
jack are accessible with the pouch thing closed. Pretty robust!

--
Chris Malcolm DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[
http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]


Chris Malcolm November 8th 06 12:00 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
wrote:

At night in a tent? In that case if you want to spend a little more
money,I suggest a Sony 7600GR Radio and a very good waterproof cover to
keep it dry.


The performance of the SW100 and 7600GR are pretty much the same,
except that the SW100 is much smaller and has a squeakier speaker. The
SW100 os basically a miniaturised 7600. But on headphones they sound
the same (both extremely good). A ngelcted point of these radios is
that they not only have a phone socket, they have a line out socket,
and can deliver superb audio quality of FM to both earphones and an
external hifi.

--
Chris Malcolm
DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[
http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]


Beloved Leader November 8th 06 03:02 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 

Jim wrote:
i use a rat shack dx399(sangean 606)....


I'll cast another vote for the DX-399. Mine came with a universal power
supply. The wall wart can run on 110 or 240 volts AC, and there is an
adapter that lets you use US- or European-style outlets. The big
disadvantage is that they were discontinued years ago. I don't know if
you can still buy the wall wart separately. If you can, it will work
with the Sangean 606. You won't be in a tent every night.

I guess that every radio recommended will receive not just SW, but MW
and FM as well, and maybe LW too. You will want to hear the local news
and weather.


[email protected] November 8th 06 03:44 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
Chris Malcolm wrote:

The performance of the SW100 and 7600GR are pretty much the same,
except that the SW100 is much smaller and has a squeakier speaker. The
SW100 os basically a miniaturised 7600. But on headphones they sound
the same (both extremely good). A ngelcted point of these radios is
that they not only have a phone socket, they have a line out socket,
and can deliver superb audio quality of FM to both earphones and an
external hifi.


Thanks for that info Chris

Size and weight ARE of importance as I plan to travel
somewhat ultra-light on this bike tour.

This tour will be abt 2000 miles. I just need
something to listen to while laying in tent at night.
AM/FM is a vast wasteland now days so am hoping
something can be found on SW.

Beloved Leader November 8th 06 10:02 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 

wrote:

AM/FM is a vast wasteland now days so am hoping
something can be found on SW.


Maybe so, but every now and then you'll want to get a weather report or
to hear some tunes. I forgot: where will you be touring? US? Europe?
Other?


Lisa Simpson November 8th 06 10:25 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
I reiterate, look at the Grundig Mini 300 PE . . .

wrote in message
...
Chris Malcolm wrote:

The performance of the SW100 and 7600GR are pretty much the same,
except that the SW100 is much smaller and has a squeakier speaker. The
SW100 os basically a miniaturised 7600. But on headphones they sound
the same (both extremely good). A ngelcted point of these radios is
that they not only have a phone socket, they have a line out socket,
and can deliver superb audio quality of FM to both earphones and an
external hifi.


Thanks for that info Chris

Size and weight ARE of importance as I plan to travel
somewhat ultra-light on this bike tour.

This tour will be abt 2000 miles. I just need
something to listen to while laying in tent at night.
AM/FM is a vast wasteland now days so am hoping
something can be found on SW.




[email protected] November 8th 06 10:43 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
You might also be interested in a small handheld Radio Scanner.
www.devilfinder.com Handheld Radio Scanners
cuhulin


Chris Malcolm November 9th 06 02:57 AM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
wrote:
Chris Malcolm wrote:


The performance of the SW100 and 7600GR are pretty much the same,
except that the SW100 is much smaller and has a squeakier speaker. The
SW100 os basically a miniaturised 7600. But on headphones they sound
the same (both extremely good). A ngelcted point of these radios is
that they not only have a phone socket, they have a line out socket,
and can deliver superb audio quality of FM to both earphones and an
external hifi.


Thanks for that info Chris


Size and weight ARE of importance as I plan to travel
somewhat ultra-light on this bike tour.


This tour will be abt 2000 miles. I just need
something to listen to while laying in tent at night.
AM/FM is a vast wasteland now days so am hoping
something can be found on SW.


Note h'ever that the SW100, while small in itself, is a digitally
tuned radio, and thus eats batteries at least twice as fast as an old
fashioned analogue radio. If you factor in battery weight if a long
time away from chargers or shops, you might want to trade digital
tuning performance for analogue battery economy.

Or you could devise a battery charger running off a bicycle hub dynamo
:-)

--
Chris Malcolm
DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[
http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]


Chris Malcolm November 9th 06 03:00 AM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
Beloved Leader wrote:

wrote:


AM/FM is a vast wasteland now days so am hoping
something can be found on SW.


Maybe so, but every now and then you'll want to get a weather report or
to hear some tunes. I forgot: where will you be touring? US? Europe?
Other?


The Sony SW100 is a general purpose receiver, which is pretty good at
FM as well as SW, MW, & LW.

--
Chris Malcolm
DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[
http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]


[email protected] November 9th 06 05:25 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
"Beloved Leader" wrote:

Maybe so, but every now and then you'll want to get a weather report or
to hear some tunes. I forgot: where will you be touring? US? Europe?
Other?


I will tour US Rt 66.... in the United States

Will start ins southern California and come east

[email protected] November 9th 06 05:41 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
www.devilfinder.com Route 66

Take a camera with you on your Bicycle trip and post some photos when
you get back.Watch out for Scorpions and Snakes out there in those
Desert areas.
cuhulin


[email protected] November 9th 06 06:50 PM

Need small rugged SW for long distance bike tour
 
wrote:

www.devilfinder.com Route 66

Take a camera with you on your Bicycle trip and post some photos when
you get back.Watch out for Scorpions and Snakes out there in those
Desert areas.
cuhulin


will do

are the scorpions and snake a real problem? especially
when sleeping on ground at night?

If yes...any ideas on how to manage that problem?

I'm taking a hammock tent so will hang it up if I can
find tow supports.... but will just lay it on ground
when no supports

see link

http://www.hennessyhammock.com/


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